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InFAMOUS [Mafia] [OT] No Good Karma...

Swamped

Banned
Sorry for my absence! Now that I'm done with my summary notes I can contribute more.

I scumread TheG pretty hard from the few posts he made, and I instantly don't like this shade thrown at me for the most pointless of things. I won't deny that there are valid reasons to chase me as scum right now after whats happened, but highlighting this particular post seems bizarre, and the beginning of forming a narrative against me.

This seems like a defensive overreaction to something that stood out to me. If you look back at that post, I did this to several other players too, but nobody else has reacted the same way. I was simply responding in real time to posts being made, and this was something that, had I been there at the time, would have remarked upon it.

i claimed in the hope of being killed by the other KP that night, I was getting frustrated in the game.

I also felt like giving scum the choice to kill me would help determine how confident they were in lynching me

I think scum wouldn't want to touch you after a claim like that, that's why it's a convenient scum fake claim. I'm not convinced by your reasoning for changing your claim from x-shot to odd night. I'm trying to think of the townie reason for doing this and drawing a blank.

Swamped is my new favorite. The rest of you can go home.

XD <3

Lack of second kill:

1. Both killers hit bats.
2. Scum blocker blocked second killer.
3. Kill was nullified by BP/commuter/whatever.
4. Someone slept in and didn't submit a kill.

Maybe you already addressed this, but can you go over why you decided to turbo CCS? You were against turbos a few pages before that.

If cabot flips scum, I would definitely look at LP. It could be that he was trying to prevent a cabot surge at the end of D2.

Like I don't know why Swamped is trying to justify CCS as going after his 'true' scumread.

1) It's irrelevant.
2) It's probably a lie, because he was choosing to kill the person who brought him into the limelight.


I also seriously question the shade being thrown at Waffle as genuine.


Her strong town read on Blarg is suspect, because so far I've not yet seen anything truly alignment indicative from Blarg.


I'm feeling better about Splinter from her though, she seems to be developing a negative outlook on him.

Actually it's not irrelevant and it's funny you are painting it that way. If he really did scumread you on D1, then we can assume that the actions he claimed to have done on N1 are true. Not that we learn much from that, but it makes me feel better about Kyan at least. If he wanted to bring you into the limelight for revenge as you claim, he could have just said he made cabot target Time/AB. But anyway, I think this is a rabbit hole that doesn't really tell us much in the way of who scum is. So let's move on.

Nothing from Waffle's posts screams town to me. Her posts are the epitome of wishy-washyness, seen no real stances from her. At the end of day two she is constantly looking for validation to vote for CCS. This feels like something scum would do.

Still think we shouldn't do CSS, but I have no alternatives so if there is no one else, I will vote for him.

So do we still want vote CSS or are we at any other alternatives?

Now this part is speculation, but sometimes newbie scum are scared of posting in gossip chats in case they accidentally reveal something. This happened in AC mafia. I'm not discounting this possibility here either.

Yes, I am still townreading Blarg so far. When he is scum he is more insistent and defensive. It IS possible that he's currently not acting like that because scum are ahead at this point. But something that makes me townread him more is that he is generally going pretty hard against you and Kyan, but seems to be constantly questioning himself (especially with is latest cabot unvote). Coming from Blarg, this indecisiveness reads town to me.

Wait explain this...you feel better about Splinter because I, someone you scumread, townreads Splinter? That makes no sense, am I misunderstanding?

That's rich.

Anyway:

VOTE: Zippedpinhead

Without any context this feels like an OMGUS vote since Zipped is on Isaac. But I'm scumreading Zipped too, especially because of the timing of his Flame vote on D1.

Isaac is playing like he has nothing to lose if he's lynched. I lean town on him.

What if we're seeing a subtle roleclaim / flavor play by our dear Kyanrute in the references to the Kyaaa?

Top Town: WaffleTaco, OceanicAir.

I think that's just Kyan's catchphrase lol.

VOTE: cabot
 

Swamped

Banned
Ri'Orius
SkyOdin
Isaac
Maybe Swamped.

Kalor what's the reason for your read on Ri? It's not just you, a lot of people seem to scum read him.

Going through his posts myself, they seem pretty innocuous on the surface. He doesn't stir the pot much, but that doesn't say anything about alignment. He wants to follow Blarg's plan of voting off Kyan, but wavers a bit there. In general I think his posts seem to hold back a bit. At the end of D1 he switched from AB to Dusk, but that doesn't say much either because they were both town and he probably just wanted to avoid a tie. D2 he votes for CCS. So I don't get much from his votes either. Basically I don't know what to think of Ri.

Similarly with Bronx, some people scumread him saying he's slightly off from other games. Can someone volunteer to elaborate? I'm not getting much from him either.

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OHHH wait, maybe I'm slow but doesn't CCS's (claimed) N1 action clear Kyan completely? CCS claimed that even if he targeted a non-killing mafia, there would be two kills.
 

cabot

Member
swamped ccs wanted to kill me because I put him under pressure.


It's not to bring me into the limelight as revenge.
 

cabot

Member
I didn't get the impression you townread Splinter. Felt like you were swaying in your notes.


Don't agree with LP at all.


Don't agree with most of your post.
 

Kalor

Member
Kalor what's the reason for your read on Ri? It's not just you, a lot of people seem to scum read him.

His vote yesterday is my primary reason. CCS was an easy vote for scum and out of everyone Ri had a weak post trying to justify their vote on CCS. It was just parroting other reasons that were said up to that point. It wasn't the worst vote for CCS but it felt like scum trying to join the bandwagon without sticking out too much.
 

SkyOdin

Member
Skyyyyyy

Quit being so *checks anime tropes* kuudere~

You will suffer me

TAAAAAAAAALK
Okay, okay, I am awake now. In short, you think I am one of several people coasting through the game. In particular, you think I have been avoiding talking to various other players.

I am pretty sure that I have been interacting with cabot a fair bit, by virtue of the fact that he talks the most out of anyone. I tend to lean town on him, but there is that lingering doubt that he is scum at the back of my mind. Though I am not sure if cabot has said any read on me, now that you mention it.

To be honest, Zippedpinhead is so quiet that I have almost forgot he was in the game. I will go back and read his posts, and go over Lone Prodigy's while I am at it.

Ri'Orius has been strongly scum reading me all game, so interacting with him is just awkward. I don't really scum read him, I just think he is misguided. It feels like he has been quiet today, though.
 

Flame_AC

Member
and I'm currently voting for cabot, Flame. Seems to me you're not paying attention. Seems to me you're pushing Kyan as my hypothetical first-to-go because after Kyan's mislynch you and your scummates could handwave my cabot allegations away thanks to that credibility hit. Seems to me that you're slyly covering for cabot, Flame_AC. I know what you've done.
I don't feel like I'm being that sly about it, I've said several times I think cabot is town in the current situation. My discussion of Kyan/cabot going first was in response to another query, but yes, at the moment of that post you were voting for cabot, not Kyanrute.
 

Flame_AC

Member
That's a pretty terrible reads list. You didn't even specify, but I assume Waffle is for meta reasons (not knowing about the gossip chat) and Ocean for... being the gossip?

That's it? Not even the cop-checked Kawl? Do you have any reads that aren't based on mechanics?

WaffleTaco is very likely to be town, if only for the way they played the gossip chat. Had she had any form of teammates/outside communication, I'm very certain she would have used the chat, or at the very least popped in to acknowledge it existed instead of finding out about it through the game thread. As for OceanicAir, yes, I'm basing a bunch of my town cred for them on their role utility, but since we're looking at a basic gossip and not some variant that involves bringing in multiple different people, I feel alright about letting that stand on its own as "town enough" for me, at least for this phase.
 

Flame_AC

Member
Why the interest in the gossip chat Flame? And what are your thoughts on Kyan calling out your posts as mostly fluff?
The gossip chat is something that I feel is being / has been neglected in both conversation here and in the actual gossip chat itself, so I like to bring it up when I can if no one else is planning on doing it. In regards to fluff, kinda true, I guess (We can argue over % another time)? I mean sometimes it can be hard to feel a way to contribute and so rehashing old stuff or setting some details straight is personally helpful as I don't have the best memory for things like this.
"batsnacks Item talk"

Why Zipped and Ri? Opinion posts are nice so props for that, even though the explanation is lacking.
So I mention that Zipped and Ri' would be more likely to be scum based off of this post:
I'd bet there are multiple scum in Zipped, SkyOdin, Flame and Ri'orious.
I, wanting to put some of my own opinions out there, state that, of the 4 names listed here, I'd choose Zipped and Ri'. Not that much more complicated, I of course don't need to explain why I don't think I am scum, but yes, I could have given a bit more details. Personally, I've got SkyOdin on my lean town list for their contributions and generally alright posts, I don't really agree with some of the stuff he has put forward, but nevertheless I saw him then, and now, as a reasonably leaning town person. The voting record for SkyOdin is similarly not spectacular like the rest of us, so... posts are what to go on for now.
 

Flame_AC

Member
Flame, I'd love a tldr on your reads in regards to everyone as well.
Ask and you shall receive: Also. I want OceanicAir's role name.

Strong Town Lean:
Kawl_USC - To the person wondering why I left Kawl off my town list earlier, really? Of course Kawl is top of the town list.
WaffleTaco - Explained a bit above, but, the way she handled the gossip chat has worked to their benefit. If she had any type of team supporting her (scum/3rd) then she wouldn't have had to figure out the gossip chat in the game thread.
OceanicAir - Also above, but to put it briefly: We're looking at a very traditional gossip which rules out a 3rd party for me, there is a slight chance they turn out to be scum, but I've liked some of their posts and I like the way they were trying to bait out the gossip info from WaffleTaco in a scumhunting manner, a scum member would have kept the chat a secret in my mind. One nagging thing that maybe I'm remembering wrong, I don't remember much from OA until I mentioned them and their chat and then shortly after, there they were.

Slight Town Lean:
SkyOdin - Similar to the below Swamped/Splinter, but I feel like SkyOdin is a player who will be very helpful in the mid-late game.
Swamped / *Splinter - They occupy similar positions in my mind, solid posts with some good effort put in. Swamped had the unfortunate fun of having to catch up so this could change for her rather fast as she moves into more original content instead of making her opinions about old content known. Splinter has occasionally put me forward as scummy, which is fine in it of itself,
cabot - Yes, I'm probably the most pro-cabot-townness player not named cabot, but that's okay. To be fair, he's all the way at the bottom of my town list, but I find his contributions to be actively helping town and while there was some misplay in the way the role claim was handled, I'm not ready to lynch them.

Null / Possible Anti-Town/Neutral Lean:
Kalor - Their scum list is kind of okay with me I guess? I think SkyOdin is town, but beyond that, other people have worse thoughts. I know some other players have some posts which make them feel poorly about Kalor and I'd like to see those pointed out in case I missed something. I feel like Kalor and Swamped have the greatest chance of falling through my list to the scum pile at the bottom.
Kyanrute - Being upfront about possession was a plus. I feel like we don't agree about that much, but that's okay for now. They asked for this list I guesss, that's good. I would love to hop on scum Kyan train though, if only for the unique strategy.
Blargonaut - Not much Blarg could do at this phase of the game to convince me one way or another. He can parade around saying he's scum/town and I wouldn't buy it. Ideally something in the night will help us clear him one way or another, otherwise it'll be a tough fight later on.
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This part of the list is mostly people I couldn't, in good faith, put as null / town. That is a difference between me saying I feel like the 6 are scum, more that they haven't made me feel good about them.
Slight Scum Lean:
Lone_Prodigy - I don't like the post count filler. Almost enough to lynch over.
Zippedpinhead - I thought about just throwing Zipped into the category below and LP into the one above, but I decided to keep this one for symmetry and all that fun stuff. Zipped goes in spurts of posting before falling back to the shadows I feel.

While the rest of the list is ordered from Super Town -> Not. This last category is a jumble and I wouldn't really feel confident in putting any of them ahead of one another.
Strong Scum Lean:
Zeusy - In the gossip chat. Gave an excuse for not being around yesterday irl. As a whole, I wanna see more from Zeusy, if only so they can poke and prod at Blarg.
Ri'Orius - Bandwagoning and generally seems like a player who is try9ing to slip under the radar.
Bronx-Man - I've been thinking Bronx is scum for most of the game, I continue to do so.
isaacnukem - Crazy reads and weird representations of game events makes them right at home in the scum category.
 

SkyOdin

Member
Okay, I just finished going back over all of Lone_Prodigy's posts. Not that it took long.

I am not surprised that LP slipped under my notice, considering how non-existent his presence in this thread has been. The vast majority of his posts are one-liners, and he has made a point of posting exactly ten posts every day phase.

On day one, LP mostly seemed to be defending the main targets of suspicion: Dusk and CCS. However, after CCS was revealed to be neutral on Day 2, LP seemed much more gung-ho about a lynch, culminating in his hammer of the vote. On day 3, LP then made a point to say that votes on neutrals are not a "smoking gun".

In particular, what stood out to me was that the only night-death that seemed to surprise LP was AbsolutBro's murder. He shrugged off Timeaisis being killed as no big surprise.

All together, it gives me the impression that LP possesses inside knowledge. He knew that Dusk and CCS were not scum Day 1, so he defended them. He knew Timeaisis was going to be dead at the start of Day 2, but not AbsolutBro.

So, I am getting very strong scum vibes from Lone_Prodigy now.

Also, his last few posts have made me feel a bit better about FlameAC.

Vote: Lone_Prodigy

On to Zippedpinhead.
 
One thing I've been thinking about in regards to Waffle is that while I don't think she's scum, I still think she could be a viable candidate for a second killer.
 

SkyOdin

Member
One thing I've been thinking about in regards to Waffle is that while I don't think she's scum, I still think she could be a viable candidate for a second killer.
Do tou mean that she could be a second vigilante, a serial killer, or something else? And for what reason?
 

SkyOdin

Member
I finished going over Zipped's posts. They are somewhat more substantial and a bit harder to get a good read on compared to LP's posts. Zipped approached day 1 with a jovial, non-serious attitude. Still, I think he made some decent points in the first two days, even though he was wrong a out me being scum. On the other hand, it is notable that he didn't put down a vote on either Day 1 or Day 2. Today, he seems to have gone the complete opposite directin and has tunneled hard on Isaacnukem over a read list that Isaac made. Zipped has been somewhat defensive/evasive over other people asking him questions, prompting a few people to scum read him.

To be honest, while he gives some scum vibes, he could just be a townie with a low engagement level with the game. Does anyone else have any strong opinions on Zippedpinhead?
 
At that point of the game, Cabot was more townread than not, and I had publicly townread him but moved to scumreading him. I thought that he was arguing to lynch CCS to fit his scummy agenda, and worried that people trusting him would give his argument more credence than it deserved.

Both sides didn't have merit, day two was a huge win for scum.

The fact that he started today with "well now it's clear CCS' lynch benefited scum" makes me think he knew he was wrong all along. He's started playing up the possibility that CCS could have been scum because CCS role at this point would have helped town more than scum.

I don't want to reignite the argument over CCS, I'm highlighting cabot's change of stance this phase.

I also don't understand how Kawl can townread him for it.

Changing a stance after a flip isn't that surprising. Should there have been more discussion around the possibility that CCS could've been scum faking a neutral claim? Perhaps, but it's not like he was caught with a red check and tried to wriggle out of it.
 
Maybe you already addressed this, but can you go over why you decided to turbo CCS? You were against turbos a few pages before that.

If cabot flips scum, I would definitely look at LP. It could be that he was trying to prevent a cabot surge at the end of D2.

I was against a turbo with 20-ish hours to go. With 2 hours left, nothing else had happened. There was not going to be a late surge when a neutral was on the block. What was the point of protecting my fellow scum when he'd be a main candidate the next day anyway?
 
Do tou mean that she could be a second vigilante, a serial killer, or something else? And for what reason?
A non-town/scum aligned killer. The main reason why people think she's town has more to do with how she dealt with gossip thread not necessarily for townie behavior and that mix up could also happen to a neutral. Not saying she is right now and tend to thing she's town for the moment, it's just more of a keep your mind open of possibilities especially if we continue to get more than one kill at night.
 

Flame_AC

Member
A non-town/scum aligned killer. The main reason why people think she's town has more to do with how she dealt with gossip thread not necessarily for townie behavior and that mix up could also happen to a neutral. Not saying she is right now and tend to thing she's town for the moment, it's just more of a keep your mind open of possibilities especially if we continue to get more than one kill at night.

I agree that solo neutral is a possibility.

Vote: isaacnukem

I didn't have my vote down yet, so here it is. I might be able to be here for end of day if need be.
 

SkyOdin

Member
Going back over isaacnukem's votes, he seemed to be involved and active on day 1, but dropped off significantly across day 2 and day 3 (so far). I thought some of his early content was okay, but I can't figure out why he has been scum-reading and voting Zippedpinhead all game. On day 1, he voted for Zipped without explanation, then hopped on the DuskSoldier bandwagon three posts later. I don't scum read him as strongly as I do Lone_Prodigy, but I can follow why other people are scum reading isaacnukem.
 

Ri'Orius

Member
Ri'Orius has been strongly scum reading me all game, so interacting with him is just awkward. I don't really scum read him, I just think he is misguided. It feels like he has been quiet today, though.

Wait, you think I've been scumreading you? News to me. I noted your end of day one behavior was sketchy to me, but that's the only post of mine referencing you I can find. I wouldn't say I'm strongly scum reading anyone.

And yeah, I'm having trouble coming to any good conclusions. Day one, sure, let's vote for people more-or-less at random. Day two, don't trust the neutral. It's day three, we've lost some good PRs and need a win...but I still feel like I don't have much good information to go on.

A couple more-or-less confirmed towns (Kawl and OA), some sketchy-but-not-really-scummy behavior (cabot's change of heart re:neutral!CCS, L_P's low-effort posting and unnecessary turbo), Blarg being Blarg.

I'll go back over the thread to see if I can find something worth basing my vote on, but I'm not optimistic. We may be looking at another crapshoot vote. I don't like craps.
 

Swamped

Banned
Happy belated birthday Zeusy!

Zeusy seems to be tunneling on Blarg. In my experience there are two types of tunnels: (1) A townie is blinded by everything around them and person x HAS to be scum no matter what and (2) a scummie who is pretending to tunnel. He voted for him D1 as well, and openly said it was an OMGUS vote. Then on D2 he is suspicious of Blarg's open role fishing attempt (as one should be), his ultimate vote on CCS. Now he is voting for Blarg based on 'questions that haven't been answered'. Assuming that is this post?

Hmm I feel like only a scum would be that worried if I had or not had powers...any which one to add to that...

I lean slightly town on him, I think this is a case of town tunneling. I do wish Zeusy would weigh in more on the other players too though.

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Ri's posts definitely give me blender vibes btw.

Getting town vibes from Sky's latest post voting for LP. Didn't realize LP was hitting exactly 10 posts each day so far, that is hilarious XD

Getting weird vibes from Flame. People must have noticed by now that he keeps referring or asking what people's flavors are.
 

Flame_AC

Member
Getting weird vibes from Flame. People must have noticed by now that he keeps referring or asking what people's flavors are.

It's not like it's a secret I am interested in the flavor / role names. It hasn't proven useful yet, but on the off chance it does I'll keep asking questions whenever a claim shows up.
 

Ri'Orius

Member
What's our vote count at currently?
From the tool:

ri'orius (1)
kalor 1699

bronx-man (1)
cabot 1700

isaacnukem (3)
waffletaco 1724
zippedpinhead 1802
flame_ac 2070

cabot (2)
blargonaut 1733 (1791)
kyanrute 1747 (1889)
blargonaut 1919 (2048)
*splinter 2044
swamped 2051

kyanrute (0)
blargonaut 1794 (1919)

zippedpinhead (1)
isaacnukem 1989

kalor (1)
kawl_usc 2005

flame_ac (0)
skyodin 2031 (2062)

lone_prodigy (1)
skyodin 2062

blargonaut (1)
zeusy 2072

Ri's posts definitely give me blender vibes btw.

Autocorrect or some slang I'm unfamiliar with? Even if it's autocorrect I have no idea what it was originally...
 

Kalor

Member
With the day drawing to a close and I don't think I could get enough people behind a Ri lynch now I'll move my vote to someone else who I think could be scum.

Vote: isaacnukem
 

Swamped

Banned
Autocorrect or some slang I'm unfamiliar with? Even if it's autocorrect I have no idea what it was originally...

Ya know, a blender!

GS-Heritage-Rglam-Metal.jpg

As in, you're mixing into the crowd very well. No hard stances, no stirring-the-pot votes, always slightly unsure of yourself. By itself it isn't much, but by Day 3 surely a townie player has more opinions? It just makes me a bit wary.
 

Flame_AC

Member
The thing that has me worried is the relative silence for an end of day with such low vote counts. It makes me think we're gonna hit town and scum doesn't care.
 
Happy belated birthday Zeusy!

Zeusy seems to be tunneling on Blarg. In my experience there are two types of tunnels: (1) A townie is blinded by everything around them and person x HAS to be scum no matter what and (2) a scummie who is pretending to tunnel. He voted for him D1 as well, and openly said it was an OMGUS vote. Then on D2 he is suspicious of Blarg's open role fishing attempt (as one should be), his ultimate vote on CCS. Now he is voting for Blarg based on 'questions that haven't been answered'. Assuming that is this post?



I lean slightly town on him, I think this is a case of town tunneling. I do wish Zeusy would weigh in more on the other players too though.

I personally just hate that Blarg's being more helpful than usual makes me suspicious that he might be taking a mafia role more seriously (he could actually be taking a town role more seriously though!)

I do agree that Zeusy could expand his scope even if I don't entirely blame him for going after him because he just is someone who I usually go by gut on.
 
DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

isaacnukem (4)
WaffleTaco 1724
Zippedpinhead 1802
Flame_AC 2070
Kalor 2080

cabot (3)
Blargonaut 1733 1791
Kyanrute 1747 1889
Blargonaut 1919 2048
*Splinter 2044
Swamped 2051
Ri'Orius 2085

Zippedpinhead (1)
isaacnukem 1989

Lone_Prodigy (1)
SkyOdin 2062

Blargonaut (1)
Zeusy 2072

Bronx-Man (1)
cabot 1700

Kalor (1)
Kawl_USC 2005

Flame_AC (0): SkyOdin 2031 2062

Ri'Orius (0): Kalor 1699 2080

Kyanrute (0): Blargonaut 1794 1919

No active vote for Day 3: Blargonaut (has previously voted), Bronx-Man, Kyanrute (has previously voted), Lone_Prodigy, OceanicAir

Day 3 Postcount: *Splinter 22, Blargonaut 95, Bronx-Man 10, cabot 66, Flame_AC 23, isaacnukem 10, Kalor 10, Kawl_USC 10, Kyanrute 47, Lone_Prodigy 8, OceanicAir 10, Ri'Orius 11, SkyOdin 20, Swamped 8, WaffleTaco 15, Zeusy 7, Zippedpinhead 9


Day 3 ends:
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Automated vote tally here

9 votes for majority
 
The thing that has me worried is the relative silence for an end of day with such low vote counts. It makes me think we're gonna hit town and scum doesn't care.

My problem is that there is a block of players that fall into a void of blurriness.

vote: isaacnukem

Out of the two candidates that seem to be out there, I'd rather keep cabot around because I trust him a bit more and also because we'd have next to no discussion in the next phase otherwise lol
 
DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

isaacnukem (5)
WaffleTaco 1724
Zippedpinhead 1802
Flame_AC 2070
Kalor 2080
OceanicAir 2089

cabot (5)
Blargonaut 1733 1791
Kyanrute 1747 1889
Blargonaut 1919 2048
*Splinter 2044
Swamped 2051
Ri'Orius 2085
Kawl_USC 2090
isaacnukem 2091

Lone_Prodigy (1)
SkyOdin 2062

Bronx-Man (1)
cabot 1700

Blargonaut (1)
Zeusy 2072

Zippedpinhead (0): isaacnukem 1989 2091

Flame_AC (0): SkyOdin 2031 2062

Ri'Orius (0): Kalor 1699 2080

Kyanrute (0): Blargonaut 1794 1919

Kalor (0): Kawl_USC 2005 2090

No active vote for Day 3: Blargonaut (has previously voted), Bronx-Man, Kyanrute (has previously voted), Lone_Prodigy

Day 3 Postcount: *Splinter 22, Blargonaut 95, Bronx-Man 10, cabot 66, Flame_AC 23, isaacnukem 11, Kalor 12, Kawl_USC 11, Kyanrute 47, Lone_Prodigy 8, OceanicAir 11, Ri'Orius 11, SkyOdin 20, Swamped 8, WaffleTaco 15, Zeusy 7, Zippedpinhead 9


Day 3 ends:
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Automated vote tally here

9 votes for majority
 
I am town. Sorry I haven't participated much over the weekend.

Anyway, I'll be here to answer any of your questions until the day ends.
 
Someone most people scum read, the two people in the "gossip" (reasonable) AND a confirmed townie?!?!?

And me, but l discount that for this argument.

How do you rationalize scum reading a confirmed town person?

vote: isaacnukem
Doesn't know how to read posts and their context. I also explained afterwards. Then again, he's scum, so what can I do.
 
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