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Injustice 2 - Introducing Black Manta

That victory outro:

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When that victory pose shown up, and Sephiroth's moment quickly popped up in my mind.
 
Because Manta is a crazy psychopath that goes way overboard and leaves death and destruction in his wake.

He will kill everyone and everything in his way to even cause a mild annoyance to Aquaman.

He is by far the most evil person in the game.

I mean, thats good and all, but why is this the way they decided to illustrate such for Black Manta, an aquatic-focused character? Scorched land?

Comic ref? That scene with his fathers murder up there, on a boat? If thats just "the result of his lasers going full blast", why not use more of this "ruined apocalypse" area in his intro or super too?

It's fine, but when the most striking thing about a character reveal in this game is not his well directed super, of a few fancy moves, and is instead a fancy, out-of-nowhere victory pose... it's jarring.
 
I mean, thats good and all, but why is this the way they decided to illustrate such for Black Manta, an aquatic-focused character? Scorched land?

Comic ref? That scene with his fathers murder up there, on a boat? If thats just "the result of his lasers going full blast", why not use more of this "ruined apocalypse" area in his intro or super too?

It's fine, but when the most striking thing about a character reveal in this game is not his well directed super, of a few fancy moves, and is instead a fancy, out-of-nowhere victory pose... it's jarring.

Everything NRS develops is jarring, its a product of way too many cooks in the kitchen and a shit ton of out sourcing, so nothing ever has a cohesive feel, that's why some characters have shitty low budget supers, and others have hilariously over produced ones. Also why the animations and model work is all over the place.

Someone thought that outro was a cool idea and pushed real hard for it, and now it's in the game.

Good idea? Eh.
It fits Manta well, but it probably should have been his Super.
Since all Manta really has is laser eyes and a harpoon gun.
 
Everything NRS develops is jarring

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Good idea? Eh.
It fits Manta well, but it probably should have been his Super.
Since all Manta really has is laser eyes and a harpoon gun.

Haha, had to make sure it wasn't just a lack of knowledge on my part. DLC is generally on a higher quality rung.
 
I mean, thats good and all, but why is this the way they decided to illustrate such for Black Manta, an aquatic-focused character? Scorched land?

Comic ref? That scene with his fathers murder up there, on a boat? If thats just "the result of his lasers going full blast", why not use more of this "ruined apocalypse" area in his intro or super too?

It's fine, but when the most striking thing about a character reveal in this game is not his well directed super, of a few fancy moves, and is instead a fancy, out-of-nowhere victory pose... it's jarring.

Outside of some super strength, a persistent grudge, and laser eyes, Black Manta isn't all that different than your typical DC assassin or mercenary. That may be why you are not "amazed" by his inclusion. Despite that, this is an accurate representation of who he is and what he does.
 
Hyped for him, was worried when the teaser showed him with a gun, but glad hes melee focused. His fights in the comics of recent years have been amazing.

Also just cause hes an aquaman villain does not mean he doesn't go on land ever. Also his laser blasts from the helmet are indeed heat based so... makes sense things would catch fire as there is no real water only stage in this game. Excited either way, Black Manta has been a favorite for a while. some of the best down and dirty moments in DC lately.

And if no one caught the throw? reference
 
Outside of some super strength, a persistent grudge, and laser eyes, Black Manta isn't all that different than your typical DC assassin or mercenary. That may be why you are not "amazed" by his inclusion. Despite that, this is an accurate representation of who he is and what he does.

Well, it's good if he's accurate. Though NR does a pretty crappy job at conveying a real sense of solidarity with their move set design here. I guess they just do a bad job of visually selling enemies as being matches for their historic rivals.

Also just cause hes an aquaman villain does not mean he doesn't go on land ever. Also his laser blasts from the helmet are indeed heat based so... makes sense things would catch fire as there is no real water only stage in this game. Excited either way, Black Manta has been a favorite for a while. some of the best down and dirty moments in DC lately.

It's not the fact it's fiery, it's just the fact it's such a focus feels poorly thought out. Like with that comic page of his savage murder of a bunch of people in a diner. He returns to the sea afterwards, leaving a fully destroyed location behind him. His suit is adapted for aquatic movement, so to show it at it's best, you wanna show in within water. Injustice has no issue making characters shift to an alternate world to show off how cool they are; frickin' Captain Cold basically teleports you to a winter storm almost instantly.

Ahh well, it's NR, what's one to do?
 
Do people really care that much about one move that you will probably never, ever see unless you're purposely fishing for it? I'd rather have that cool af outro instead.
 
Yeah the super is lazy as fuck. With the care taken with his intro/outro you'd think they'd take longer than 5 seconds to plan out his super.
 
I rarely use supers unless I can do a lengthy combo into it, but was just expecting something better. It is ok to feel that way lol,

Rest of his shit looks great, looking forward to using him online.
 
About the DLC dialogue with the base cast

I heard it was something got to do with the strike happening before release of the game, usually in other games the base cast would acknowledge the DLC but in this game they don't which is weird.

Also I prefer Supers being more like this just a beatdown rather than the usual knock them to special place hit them a couple of times then send back
 
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