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Injustice 2 Roster Discussion & Speculation Thread

Finaika said:
KOFXIV?
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I completely forgot about that visual and technical marvel! O:

Imo the only fighter this generation that made me go Wow!! before Injustice 2 was Guilty Gear Xrd and that's just a HD remaster from last gen.

Ryce said:
I honestly love the way both SFV and Injustice 2 look. There's no need to shit on one to elevate the other -- there's room for both.
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Street Fighter V, at least on PS4, looks pretty bad though. I'm not talking about its distinctive art style, which is a matter of taste (and which I actually like), but things like blurry textures, low detail and polygon backgrounds, bad IQ and that terrible dark pixelation over all characters due to the low resolution ambient occlusion, that's not even existent on PC's lowest settings.
 
Tyaren said:
I completely forgot about that visual and technical marvel! O:

Imo the only fighter this generation that made me go Wow!! before Injustice 2 was Guilty Gear Xrd and that's just a HD remaster from last gen.
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That is not accurate. Xrd was redone from scratch in 3D to look like 2D sprite work. It was very impressive for what it was trying to do visually.
 
Tyaren said:
Street Fighter V, at least on PS4, looks pretty bad though. I'm not talking about its distinctive art style, which is a matter of taste (and which I actually like), but things like blurry textures, low detail and polygon backgrounds, bad IQ and that terrible dark pixelation over all characters due to the low resolution ambient occlusion, that's not even existent on PC's lowest settings.
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Oh, yeah, I agree with that. The shadow dithering is unacceptable.
 
2n2 said:
That is not accurate. Xrd was redone from scratch in 3D to look like 2D sprite work. It was very impressive for what it was trying to do visually.
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What wasn't accurate exactly? Guity Gear Xrd is a cross generation game, with the lead development platform being the PS3. The PS4 version just runs at a higher resolution. Character models, animations, effects etc. everything is the same on both platforms.
And I didn't deny that it was impressive. In fact I said it even wowed me. ;)
 
Ryce said:
I honestly love the way both SFV and Injustice 2 look. There's no need to shit on one to elevate the other -- there's room for both.
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Tbh, while it looks fine graphically, I still dont like how The SF characters are modeled in 3D since IV. Though, I suppose that's just my issues with the art style.
 
Tyaren said:
What wasn't accurate exactly? Guity Gear Xrd is a cross generation game, with the lead development platform being the PS3. The PS4 version just runs at a higher resolution. Character models, animations, effects etc. everything is the same on both platforms.
And I didn't deny that it was impressive. In fact I said it even wowed me. ;)
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Both were developed and released simultaneously using their 3D tech to reboot the series, so not really a remaster of an old game so to speak.
 
Tyaren said:
What wasn't accurate exactly? Guity Gear Xrd is a cross generation game, with the lead development platform being the PS3. The PS4 version just runs at a higher resolution. Character models, animations, effects etc. everything is the same on both platforms.
And I didn't deny that it was impressive. In fact I said it even wowed me. ;)
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That's wrong.

ps3 version has tearing, lower resolution shadows and textures, alphas being affected by the resolution being lower, frame drops during special moves, and much slower loading times.

The lead development was the arcade version. Not the ps3 version.

lucebuce12 said:
I love KoFXIV and think it's the better fighting game as compared to SFV.

But the game was not a good looking game at release. It's much better now
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Oh yeah KOF XIV looked like utter shit at release.

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But they turned it around quite a bit.

Now this on the other hand ....

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Slaythe said:
ps3 version has tearing, lower resolution shadows and textures, alphas being affected by the resolution being lower, frame drops during special moves, and much slower loading times.

The lead development was the arcade version. Not the ps3 version.
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I see that my careless statement of it being "a remaster from last gen" was incorrect. Still, the game, as a cross gen game, does not make use of the full potential of the PS4's power. A game that is developed for several platforms with significant differences in specs has to graphically settle for the lowest common denominator, which is in this case the PS3. The PS4 version is just a prettied up and more polished version of what you see on the PS3.
I don't even know why we have to argue about this, since I also said that the game looks still amazing, lol. And now let's get back to the topic, Injustice and its characters.
 
Tyaren said:
Still, the game, as a cross gen game, does not make use of the full potential of the PS4's power.
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Not necessarily. We don't know that for sure with Xrd. The existence of a PS3 version does not automatically mean the PS4 version was held back in any way if the PS4 was the lead version and the PS4 allowed them to meet their visual goals for the game, and they took that as a base and kept dialing the quality back until it ran well on the PS3. It depends on the game.
 
Slaythe said:
That's wrong.

ps3 version has tearing, lower resolution shadows and textures, alphas being affected by the resolution being lower, frame drops during special moves, and much slower loading times.

The lead development was the arcade version. Not the ps3 version.



Oh yeah KOF XIV looked like utter shit at release.

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But they turned it around quite a bit.

Now this on the other hand ....

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KOF still doesn't look that great IMO. Better yes but ps3 can produce those graphics. UMVC3 is a 6 year old game and looks better than KOF14. KOF 13 on the other hand was/is BEAUTIFUL.
 
JAXXX said:
KOF still doesn't look that great IMO. Better yes but ps3 can produce those graphics. UMVC3 is a 6 year old game and looks better than KOF14. KOF 13 on the other hand was/is BEAUTIFUL.
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I actually thought Finaika and some others were joking when they mentioned KOFXIV as a particularly good looking game. ;)
 
JAXXX said:
KOF still doesn't look that great IMO. Better yes but ps3 can produce those graphics. UMVC3 is a 6 year old game and looks better than KOF14. KOF 13 on the other hand was/is BEAUTIFUL.
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I didn't say it looked great I said it looked much better than at release. Which it does. And it's also debatable now which one is better or worse with SFV since it depends on which character and stage we're talking about. While at release they were all in favor of SFV.

That being said, UMVC 3 uses stylized cell shading, which always ages better. Like UMVC3 looks better than SFV. And hell I'd also argue it looks better better than Infinite Marvel versus capcom =) .

Tyaren said:
I actually thought Finaika and some others were joking when they mentioned KOFXIV as a particularly good looking game. ;)
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He was.

But the game went through a major graphic overhaul and I feel like it's unfair to keep shitting on it. Not because it's a marvelous looking game, but because depending on the characters and stages, it's indeed better than SFV now. Point is the developers tried to improve things significantly, and it might still not be "enough", it's commendable, so if we could avoid the shit posting regarding KOF XIV that'd be nice.
 
Slaythe said:
I didn't say it looked great I said it looked much better than at release. Which it does. And it's also debatable now which one is better or worse with SFV since it depends on which character and stage we're talking about. While at release they were all in favor of SFV.

That being said, UMVC 3 uses stylized cell shading, which always ages better. Like UMVC3 looks better than SFV. And hell I'd also argue it looks better better than Infinite Marvel versus capcom =) .



He was.

But the game went through a major graphic overhaul major???

but because depending on the characters and stages, it's indeed better than SFV now.
LOL Opinion..


Point is the developers tried to improve things significantly, and it might still not be "enough", it's commendable, so if we could avoid the shit posting regarding KOF XIV that'd be nice.
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Cool, i feel you on this but but like anything else it comes down to preference. I like Injustice 2 catwoman's face, some dont- many think that KOF14 artstyle is lacking , you dont. No big deal, IMO
 
If anyone needs a new trait it's The Joker. He has a ton of gag weapons at his disposal, so let's give him a boring knife parry. Makes sense.
 
Ryce said:
If anyone needs a new trait it's The Joker. He has a ton of gag weapons at his disposal, so let's give him a boring knife parry. Makes sense.
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Hahaha. Yeah he needs to be given an overhaul I think. I can't believe they're saving him for the last reveal, really leads me to believe that Hamill is voicing him because otherwise it doesn't make sense to treat it like a big surprise.
 
speaking of traits...in the Harley stream Tyler and 16bit stated that Harley players hated that she had an unreliable random trait, then they proceed and praise wonder woman for having a new random trait. LOL
 
sinkfla87 said:
Hahaha. Yeah he needs to be given an overhaul I think. I can't believe they're saving him for the last reveal, really leads me to believe that Hamill is voicing him because otherwise it doesn't make sense to treat it like a big surprise.
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I honestly just think they're saving him for last because he's a bonus character who doesn't factor in to the present story.
 
JAXXX said:
speaking of traits...in the Harley stream Tyler and 16bit stated that Harley players hated that she had an unreliable random trait, then they proceed and praise wonder woman for having a new random trait. LOL
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I've never been a fan of anything random in any capacity in a fighting game.
 
You guys will love Faust in Guilty Gear Xrd.
Marvel said:
Yeah me either, hence why I don't play Eyedol.
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Omen from KI as well.

For real though, I think the ideal way to make that trait fun is to make Wonder Woman be a completely solid and good character if she didn't even have access to the trait. Then the trait would just buff one aspect of her gameplan and if that was used while it's active, it's like a happy little bonus.

The argument can be made that that's a pretty lazy character trait and it kinda is, but I feel like she's one of the few characters where such a trait can fit since she's SUPPOSED to be a skilled and experienced Amazonian warrior so it'd make sense she'd always be amazing with all her tools at any given time.
 
Yeah, I'd be incredibly surprised if that's a regular move.

Though it'd be funny as hell if it's just a move that he always has that accomplishes nothing and does next to no damage.
 
Ryce said:
I honestly just think they're saving him for last because he's a bonus character who doesn't factor in to the present story.
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Yeah that's more than likely the reason why but man, I can't see people getting hyped at his trailer lol. Unless there's a DLC tease a long with it.
 
sinkfla87 said:
Yeah that's more than likely the reason why but man, I can't see people getting hyped at his trailer lol. Unless there's a DLC tease a long with it.
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The 428 theory is pretty amusing, so maybe we'll see a Red Hood teaser at the end of Joker's trailer.
 
Ryce said:
The 428 theory is pretty amusing, so maybe we'll see a Red Hood teaser at the end of Joker's trailer.
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The funny thing is I don't even really want Red Hood in the game but if he's teased in the Joker reveal I would actually be satisfied. That's how unhype Joker is for me haha.
 
sinkfla87 said:
The funny thing is I don't even really want Red Hood in the game but if he's teased in the Joker reveal I would actually be satisfied. That's how unhype Joker is for me haha.
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I don't like Red Hood either, but I'm starting to see the potential for him as a "gun fu" fighter, and I guess I could live with that. I'd just much rather have a different Batman DLC character than him.
 
I don't care for Red Hood, but whatever, as long as he doesn't take a slot for Black Manta. He's the only real request I have.
 
2n2 said:
I don't care for Red Hood, but whatever, as long as he doesn't take a slot for Black Manta. He's the only real request I have.
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Black Manta should be on the main roster and in story mode as a member of the Society imo. Aquaman still gets disrespected lol
 
Parts of Injustice 2 look nice I guess, but I still think Tekken 7 is the best looking fighting game right now.

At least on PC/Arcade.
Haven't seen any current PS4 footage.
 
Khezu said:
Parts of Injustice 2 look nice I guess, but I still think Tekken 7 is the best looking fighting game right now.

At least on PC/Arcade.
Haven't seen any current PS4 footage.
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I don't think it's fair to compare it to 2D-plane fighters.

I could be wrong, but without the same types of backgrounds, they have to handle their resources they have to work with differently.
 
I don't have much excitement myself for The Joker. Didn't really like him in the previous game.

Got a lot of the most wanted in the rest of the cast plus DLC. I really want an Arkham Knight premiere skin.
 
Friday stream info
Friday, April 28th from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. PST.
Join ARROW's Echo Kellum, DC's Jim Lee, Nerdist News' Jessica Chobot, Machinima's Chloe Dykstra, INJUSTICE 2 Comic Writer Tom Taylor, and NetherRealm Studios Creative Director Ed Boon, for Exclusive Sneak Peaks, Character Reveals And More!
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Ryce said:
Character reveals?!

Echo Kellum plays Mister Terrific. What if he's DLC?
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Please no haha. I'll take red Hood over mister terrific. However like I said before, they usually surprise us with at least 1 dlc character that's out of left field so it's possible. Maybe Matt Ryan will be a special guest haha. :)
 
sinkfla87 said:
Hahaha. Yeah he needs to be given an overhaul I think. I can't believe they're saving him for the last reveal, really leads me to believe that Hamill is voicing him because otherwise it doesn't make sense to treat it like a big surprise.
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He's dead in this universe and no one has returned that was dead. Besides his name being "The Joker" why would you expect him back?
 
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