We should, and the results would be just as valid!
Tough to consider any gaf polls legit unless they're the publicly visable kind.
We are literally talking about opinions here. IMO, getting spiderman 2 a year or two early instead of ratchet and miles is a good deal. I have pointed out why. Even gave sales figures. Which everyone seems to conveniently ignore and just label my opinion a bad take or trolling. Fine, lets ask everyone else on this board and see if they agree. Hardly needs to be scientific if we all agree that its just for people on this forum. So you guys look at 11 million vs 30 million and say nah, it makes good business sense, and then when asked to poll other gaffers, you are like nah, pass.
I am so confused who "you guys" are in this instance. I'm looking forward to Spider-man (respect the hyphen!) 2, and whatever Insomniac puts out next. Hopefully Wolverine will be more violent (because it would fit the character).
But those games would have to come out eventually? So release Spiderman 2 and then release miles and ratchet?
It's pretty obvious to me.
This. Ratchet games release between all their releases like clockwork. I wouldn't be surprised if one is released after Spiderman 2. Fuck it all Sony studios making one GaaS between singe player games. Ratchet Battle Area coming soon.
After ABK Sony will have around 5,500 devs and Microsoft will have around 16,500 devs.
They do. When Sony acquired Insomniac, they bumped them up from 2 teams to 3 teams.
Jim Ryan:
Sorry but working on a last gen game for 2 years is not going to feed into their next project. I could see you make that case for Ratchet, but fucking Miles? Come on. It's a gigantic waste of everyone's time.
I'm sure they've already pitched it to Sony. If Sony approved, they might even be in prepre-production, just right now it's all hands on deck for Spider-Man 2. Then onto Wolverine, which is likely using the same engine as Spider-Man 2 so that should help speed things up. 520 is a pretty big number, that can be broken up into 2, maybe even 3 with one being a smaller one.
Yet it sold millions upon million of copies and helped create this firestorm for Spider-Man 2. You're just out of touch because time is money and that game made plenty of it which helped fuel the hiring surge too at Insomniac.
Game development isn't like that, not everyone works on the same thing at the same time.
Why is it always sales to you? Are you a stock holder? Do you make money when sony sells consoles and ships millions?
Are you seriously arguing that the two years they could've spent developing Spiderman 2 on PS5 were better spent on Miles? That is beyond insane. The REAL dev needs to be done on Spiderman 2. All FIVE years should be spent prototyping new systems, creating NEW levels, assets and cities, boss fights taking full advantage of the PS5 IO, SSD and CPU. They will learn nothing from making the same boss fights, using the same cities, creating the same assets on the same engine because the last gen game will limit how much they can push the IO and CPU. The only real next gen upgrade we got was ray traced reflections. So they learned one thing that they couldve learned while making ratchet. And thats just the next gen stuff. The cutscene directors, the actors, the level designers, all had to make stuff for Miles in those two years instead of working on Spiderman 2. Unless of course, they made Miles on their spare time on the side as a pet project.
I only speak for myself. Its an expression. My main point was that the time spent making what is essentially a $40 expansion selling for $50 with a next gen tax would've better spending developing a full $70 game that wouldve come out a lot faster had 100-200 devs not been forced to work on something else for 2 years.
This was my original statement. It's fairly accurate to say that if they had begun work on spiderman 2 right away, it wouldve come out a year or 2 earlier.
If games are taking 4 years to make then why take away those precious resources away from these games and delaying them by a full year?
Outstanding? Lol
This isnt sonys first rodeo. This is their 5th console. They have 20 studios who have gone through this. By 2018, we had the gonzalo chips and their internal studios shouldve had a good idea on what the specs were going to be. We had 10 tflops GPUs, SSDs and 8 core 16 thread CPUs in 2016. I'd argue Sony should've had their devs begin pre-production before Spiderman finished dev in 2018.
well, whose fault is that? You had GG ship their last game in Februarry 2017. Have them work on next gen game instead of wasting their time on a cross gen game. SSM shipped their game in April 2018. Have them work on a next gen game. Greenlight Days Gone 2 right away in April 2019 instead of having them waste 6 months pitching days gone 2 then another year and a half pitching uncharted, and maybe its out by holiday 2022. This is a self inflicted wound.
Oh come on.
