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Intel’s Officialy Announces new flagship CPUs Core Ultra 200S

ap_puff

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Yes. I'm using a 24' 1080p Dell from 2011 that still works. I sound like a scrub with this old home machine, but this unit has been so reliable I'm more than thrilled with it. Hate to retire it but it's time... soon.

Will upgrade everything to 2024-2025 standards with hopes that it'll go another 10 years. Probably will put USD 3k into it, give or take with a 4k 28-32 inch monitor and desktop.
I'm just gonna say this now ... You probably wont get a 10 year system for $3k in 2024/5. Add another $2000, depending on if the 5090 is gonna be $2500, in addition to a good *edit* miniLED monitor (no OLED, burn in will happen well before 10 years)
 
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marquimvfs

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I have to say, having looked at the Z890 motherboards I'm impressed, particularly with the fact that with the majority of the boards, everything is offered without compromise.

You get thunderbolt 4, plenty of high speed USB, pcie 5 for both the GPU and NVME and then a bunch of pcie 4 NVME all at the same time. Theres also a thunderbolt 5 connector available on plenty of the motherboards. Stark contrast to the bifurcation minefield that X870 is on the vast majority of the currently available boards.

If the CPU performance is in line with expectations at 1440p and 4k then consider me swayed.
Yeah, sometimes, even when you're willing to pay for it, you just can't easily find high end boards with everything you want
 

dave_d

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Yes. I'm using a 24' 1080p Dell from 2011 that still works. I sound like a scrub with this old home machine, but this unit has been so reliable I'm more than thrilled with it. Hate to retire it but it's time... soon.
You don't need to retire it once you get your new machine. You could hook it up to a TV as your main emulation PC. (It'd be perfectly fine for Genesis, SNES, and other systems.) Or use it as a plex server.
 

Ownage

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You don't need to retire it once you get your new machine. You could hook it up to a TV as your main emulation PC. (It'd be perfectly fine for Genesis, SNES, and other systems.) Or use it as a plex server.
Agree. It plays 2015-7 Steam games perfectly. It's my WFH unit and I usually have Civ 5 on in the background. It's still very quiet and I blow out the fans a cpl of times a year.
 

SolidQ

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peish

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8000 ddr5 might end up being the sweet spot:

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Yep, sweet spots usually means set and forget, ez for noobs

With a bit of tuning, we can already hit 9733 ddr5, without ckd. Its 50% more bandwidth than the best 9950x can offer

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winjer

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Seems like some 200s CPUs will be from Raptor or Alder Lake, not from the new Arrow lake architecture.


Recent information indicates that the upcoming Intel Core 200 series processors without the "Ultra" designation might not belong to the Arrow Lake CPU family. Specifically, the Core 5 210H model appears to be based on either the Raptor Lake or the older Alder Lake architecture, both of which are part of Intel's processor lineup. Leaked specifications reveal that the Core 5 210H features eight cores and twelve threads, similar to the Core i5-12450H. However, details such as cache size have not been officially confirmed.

If the Core 5 210H is based on the Alder Lake architecture, it is expected to have a 7 MB L2 cache. Conversely, a Raptor Lake-based model would likely include a 12 MB cache. The difference in cache size could lead to significant variations in processing performance and efficiency. Performance benchmarks from leaked CrossMark results show that the Core 5 210H has a score of 1,399, which is slightly lower than the Core i5-12450H's average score of 1,445. This suggests that the performance between these models may be similar. However, engineering samples often have different clock rates compared to the final retail versions, so the actual performance of the Core 5 210H upon release may vary.

In addition to processing capabilities, the choice of architecture affects power efficiency and thermal performance. Raptor Lake offers improvements in multi-threading and power management compared to Alder Lake, which could result in better performance in multi-core applications and more efficient energy use, especially in mobile and laptop devices. Therefore, if the Core 5 210H uses the Raptor Lake architecture, users might experience enhanced performance and efficiency.

Intel has already introduced its Arrow Lake-S-based Core Ultra 200 series, which targets high-end computing tasks. The non-Ultra variants of the Core 200 series are expected to be announced in January 2024 during the Consumer Electronics Show (CES), along with corresponding laptop models. These non-Ultra processors are anticipated to cater to mainstream and business segments, offering a balance between performance and cost. Official confirmation from Intel regarding the architecture and specifications of these non-Ultra Core 200 series processors is still pending.
 

marquimvfs

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Seems like some 200s CPUs will be from Raptor or Alder Lake, not from the new Arrow lake architecture.
Yeah. That was expected. What remains to be seen is the exact division of what is new gen and what is recycled. At least it is better tha what I expected, I thought that only Laptops high end were going to move to TSMC. They managed to put out some new architecture desktop variants, too.
 

marquimvfs

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I wonder what's the tip he received that demanded a new test setup. Maybe the current the CPU is drawing from the 24pin atx connector is way higher than usual? So, if that's the case, if he was only measuring from 12v eps the readings wouldn't have been accurate.
 
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winjer

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I wonder what's the tip he received that demanded a new test setup. Maybe the current the CPU is drawing from the 24pin atx connector is way higher than usual? So, if that's the case, if he was only measuring from 12v eps the readings wouldn't ve accurate.

Makes me wonder if we are going to see reviews showing different power results, because they didn't account from the new power delivery system.
 

marquimvfs

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Makes me wonder if we are going to see reviews showing different power results, because they didn't account from the new power delivery system.
Yeah. Precisely. On that venture, the only ones getting precise results would be him and the reviewers that don't break up power consumption at a component level, the folks that measure whole systems power.
 
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