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Intel's Robert Hallock promises significant gaming uplift for Arrow Lake, in the coming weeks.
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marquimvfs
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Sadly (for you), bioses updates are the only way to update a CPU's microcode. Intel already told that the fixes would come at multiple sources, both firmware (as in bioses) and software (patches for the programs, gaming or not). We could only wait.
We also have to consider that, even in the Cyberpunk case, the upcoming patch could also improve AMD's performance, so, even if performance on Intel side is improved, the difference between them and AMD could still be as big as before.
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GymWolf
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To bad my mobo can't save the bios settings in file form like most modern mobo (thanks msi) and i'm too lazy to transcribe all of the 3953849284 different setting before updating
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marquimvfs
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Take photos of each screen, it cannot be simpler than thatTo bad my mobo can't save the bios settings in file form like most modern mobo (thanks msi) and i'm too lazy to transcribe all of the 3953849284 different setting before updating
Insane Metal
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Talking about intel,
www.tomshardware.com
TSMC founder says Intel has neither a strategy nor a CEO
Intel could develop more money on proper AI chips than on foundry services
GymWolf
Member
I'm a super noob and i'm honestly terrified to even enter inside my bios to not create problems, last time i had access to my bios i mistakenly changed some settings and i had to ask help to
winjer
to undo what i did It's probably easier than i think but i can't stress how much of a noob i am outside of changing ingame settings or fiddling with nvidia control panel, i'm a very atypical hardcore pc gamer
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marquimvfs
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Gotcha. Normally, if you didn't manually set memory timings inside bios, there's not thay much that you change in order to fully use your pc. It's just enable X.M.P., enable resize bar, enable above 4GB mapping, disable CSM, and, if needed, change boot order. Above that, there's nothing much that a ~not advanced~ user should do. And even some of them are already set on standard configurations on newer boards.I'm a super noob and i'm honestly terrified to even enter inside my bios to not create problems, last time i had access to my bios i mistakenly changed some settings and i had to ask help to
It's probably easier than i think but i can't stress how much of a noob i am outside of changing ingame settings or fiddling with nvidia control panel, i'm a very atypical hardcore pc gamer
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winjer
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Promised Intel Performance Fix with Intel Arrow Lake Firmware Update Seems To Dissapoint
Tests by users with an ASRock Z890 Taichi OCF motherboard indicate that Intel's latest firmware update for the Arrow Lake CPU series provides only minor performance improvements.
www.guru3d.com
winjer
Gold Member
Over a month has passed and Techpowerup retested the 285K with the new BIOS and Windows updates.
TLDR, it's the same for 23H2, that most reviewers used.
It improves the performance in 24H2, making it similar to 23H2.
www.techpowerup.com
TLDR, it's the same for 23H2, that most reviewers used.
It improves the performance in 24H2, making it similar to 23H2.
Arrow Lake Retested with Latest 24H2 Updates and New BIOS
Yesterday, Intel announced that they had root-caused the majority of Arrow Lake Core Ultra 200 performance problems, and that OS updates are already available. We tested Windows 11 24H2 with the new patches, and also compare results with 23H2 and a new motherboard BIOS.
LavitzSlambert
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Over a month has passed and Techpowerup retested the 285K with the new BIOS and Windows updates.
TLDR, it's the same for 23H2, that most reviewers used.
It improves the performance in 24H2, making it similar to 23H2.
Arrow Lake Retested with Latest 24H2 Updates and New BIOS
Yesterday, Intel announced that they had root-caused the majority of Arrow Lake Core Ultra 200 performance problems, and that OS updates are already available. We tested Windows 11 24H2 with the new patches, and also compare results with 23H2 and a new motherboard BIOS.
So kinda/sorta fixed for some games and in some versions of Windows, with the patch. What a disaster of a launch this was.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Staying on LGA1700 till the next next Intel generation.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
Did they find a missing core
ResilientBanana
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You should always keep your BIOS up to date though. This is a stupid take on PC ownership, not just gaming.
GymWolf
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Probably true, but a lot of people also say to not touch your bios if you don't have an actual problem to solve, you can brick your pc if something unexpected happen during the update.
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analog_future
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Over a month has passed and Techpowerup retested the 285K with the new BIOS and Windows updates.
TLDR, it's the same for 23H2, that most reviewers used.
It improves the performance in 24H2, making it similar to 23H2.
Arrow Lake Retested with Latest 24H2 Updates and New BIOS
Yesterday, Intel announced that they had root-caused the majority of Arrow Lake Core Ultra 200 performance problems, and that OS updates are already available. We tested Windows 11 24H2 with the new patches, and also compare results with 23H2 and a new motherboard BIOS.
So still well below the competition
ResilientBanana
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This is not inherently true with custom builds or builds utilizing a motherboard from a top manufacturer. Most Motherboard manufacturers have solved this issue with BIOS recovery features that have been around for over a decade. Now if you buy from DELL, HP and so on, yeah you might have an issue if it fails. But honestly, just don't touch the PC for 15 seconds during the update. It's pretty easy.
winjer
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Intel Arrow Lake 0x114 Microcode Already Out, No Significant Gains—We Tested
Motherboard vendor ASUS began rolling out UEFI firmware (BIOS) updates to its Intel Z890 motherboards that contain Intel's 0x114 Microcode update for Core Ultra "Arrow Lake-S" desktop processors. The new microcode was touted as bringing in performance gains to gaming workloads across the board...
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Actually no.
Unless there is an update that is worthwhile leave your BIOS alone.
What aint broke dont fix.
Flashing BIOS and borking it, will brick your motherboard, so getting all those hot fixes is like literally adding moving parts to a solid machine, you are unnecessarily adding a point of failure.
Some BIOS updates are for very specific things that might not affect you, so why tempt fate by flashing?
Even with ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte fast flash options its still no worth the risk unless its something you need.
I remember during the Ryzen 3000 launch there was some Gigabyte MBs that had issues with the LAN, people who didnt even use LAN (Wifi boards) would flash to the new BIOS then bork something they actually used like the USB ports.
I think Intel also had an issue with specific RAM, but if you didnt use said RAM then the updates did nothing for you.
P.S It might have been the other way round, Wifi didnt work but Lan did i cant recall but I remember multiple revisions of BIOS trying to solve that issue while if you werent affected each update was just begging your board to brick itself.
Correct.
If you machine is working fine dont start risking updates that may not actually bring anything but problems.
winjer
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A few things to consider about UEFIs
It's a much simpler, safer and easier process today, than what it was 20 years ago. With most motherboards, it's as simple as putting the file in a USB stick, booting into the EUFI and updating. The motherboard will check the file for integrity and compatibility and do what it needs.
With some motherboards, all it takes is to go into the UEFI, and it will automatically connect to the internet, download the new UEFI and flash it automatically.
If you are flashing an UEFI, reset it to the default values, just in case.
Some brands put out beta UEFIs. Unless you really need a very specific fix, don't use beta UEFIs.
As long as the power doesn't go out, during the process, the risk of failure is close to zero. And if you have an UPS, then there is practically no risk.
Even if there is a failure, several modern motherboards have ways to recover. Some have an option to self flash the UEFI. Some have dual UEFIs.
New UEFIs are not just to fix bugs. Sometimes, they bring minor performance improvements. Compatibility improvements. And security updates.
So even if you are not affected by some bug, it's good to consider updating your UEFI.
And then we get to Intel and 13th and 14th gen. Even if you don't have issues right now, it is very important to update your UEFI. Do it, before your CPU degrades and dies.
As someone that has no rouble updating the UEFI on my motherboards and some friends, I can tell you that the biggest hassle is setting up my own personal tweaked settings.
But for most people, it's just a matter of enabling XMP/EXPO. And turning on resizable bar. So this can be done in under a one minute.
Seriously, it's not as difficult as it seems.
Long are the days of flashing an UEFI with a DOS disk, inputting commands, and praying it all goes well.
It's a much simpler, safer and easier process today, than what it was 20 years ago. With most motherboards, it's as simple as putting the file in a USB stick, booting into the EUFI and updating. The motherboard will check the file for integrity and compatibility and do what it needs.
With some motherboards, all it takes is to go into the UEFI, and it will automatically connect to the internet, download the new UEFI and flash it automatically.
If you are flashing an UEFI, reset it to the default values, just in case.
Some brands put out beta UEFIs. Unless you really need a very specific fix, don't use beta UEFIs.
As long as the power doesn't go out, during the process, the risk of failure is close to zero. And if you have an UPS, then there is practically no risk.
Even if there is a failure, several modern motherboards have ways to recover. Some have an option to self flash the UEFI. Some have dual UEFIs.
New UEFIs are not just to fix bugs. Sometimes, they bring minor performance improvements. Compatibility improvements. And security updates.
So even if you are not affected by some bug, it's good to consider updating your UEFI.
And then we get to Intel and 13th and 14th gen. Even if you don't have issues right now, it is very important to update your UEFI. Do it, before your CPU degrades and dies.
As someone that has no rouble updating the UEFI on my motherboards and some friends, I can tell you that the biggest hassle is setting up my own personal tweaked settings.
But for most people, it's just a matter of enabling XMP/EXPO. And turning on resizable bar. So this can be done in under a one minute.
Seriously, it's not as difficult as it seems.
Long are the days of flashing an UEFI with a DOS disk, inputting commands, and praying it all goes well.
ResilientBanana
Member
you are incorrect. See my other comment where most motherboards have BIOS recovery tools. This is a very old way of thinking.
Zacfoldor
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Me and Intel now:
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It's been a long time comin', but we done been fell apart
Really wanna work this out, but I don't think you're gonna change
I do, but you don't, think it's best we go our separate ways
Tell me why I should stay in this relationship
When I'm hurtin', baby, I ain't happy, baby
Plus there's so many other things I gotta deal with
I think that you should let it burn
genius.com
It's gon' burn for me to say this, but it's comin' from my heart
It's been a long time comin', but we done been fell apart
Really wanna work this out, but I don't think you're gonna change
I do, but you don't, think it's best we go our separate ways
Tell me why I should stay in this relationship
When I'm hurtin', baby, I ain't happy, baby
Plus there's so many other things I gotta deal with
I think that you should let it burn
USHER – Burn
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GymWolf
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Mine is a strange case, because the pc run well but i have an intel cpu 13th gen so i know that there is something to fix.
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