SteveWinwood
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why no pool party lee sin
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TharpDaddy
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Now you understand why they're losing.
oh another interesting thing to note about TSM vs. CLG
they are arguably the most popular league teams, but at the same time, they are both organizations made by players (Reginald and Hotshotgg) who both played on the teams. These organizations were an integral part of getting league to it's popularity and are basically self-made small corporations by kids basically
they are arguably the most popular league teams, but at the same time, they are both organizations made by players (Reginald and Hotshotgg) who both played on the teams. These organizations were an integral part of getting league to it's popularity and are basically self-made small corporations by kids basically
The Technomancer
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Flash is one of the things currently keeping from playing League more then rarely. I just have this mental image of always playing against Anti Mage
SteveWinwood
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dont worry ive played for hours and riot still wont give me flash
Did you see the google doc in the Dota thread yet?
oh yeah, for some reason you have to unlock summoners
and you can play with people that have a summoner you don't have
it's kinda weird, but like I said before lvl1-20 is supposed to kinda be a learning stage
but I mean it's obviously there to make money, in league you can buy exp. boosts to level up faster
I personally have never spent money on the game, and never felt the need to, but I can definitely see how that irks people
f2p definitely has this weird capitalistic mindset where you don't HAVE to buy something so don't complain
and you can play with people that have a summoner you don't have
it's kinda weird, but like I said before lvl1-20 is supposed to kinda be a learning stage
but I mean it's obviously there to make money, in league you can buy exp. boosts to level up faster
I personally have never spent money on the game, and never felt the need to, but I can definitely see how that irks people
f2p definitely has this weird capitalistic mindset where you don't HAVE to buy something so don't complain
Also really preys on people who have no impulse control.
i got that alpine ursa money
That's one of the things I don't get about LoL either, they preach accessibility, but then ensure that new players will be at a sizable disadvantage in the first couple hundred games they play, and it's basically impossible to jungle before like level 20.
The difference between a level 1 summoner and a level 30 can be like 20-30% if not more, it's pretty absurd that there can be such a difference in a game where you are ostensibly supposed to start fresh each game.
Having to grind for a thousand hours before you have an equal playing field is basically the antithesis of accessible IMO.
Trying to play LoL before you get flash when the entire game is balanced around it is an exercise in frustration.
My Dragonclaw hook is worth $250. That's 4 AAA games I don't need to buy on Steam
I don't even know what my Tournament Courier is valued at these days, probably less than it used to be because iG is a shit team now.
I don't even know what my Tournament Courier is valued at these days, probably less than it used to be because iG is a shit team now.
it's accessibility in-game I think; they purport to take out things from dota that scare off new players, though I dunno how much that's true in practice. It certainly worked from a marketing standpoint. I don't really follow riot's design philosophy or know what it is really, but I enjoyed playing it and leveling up. This is coming from someone who played dota first, so I definitely came into the game with more knowledge than someone coming in blind, that might also have to do with why I don't really care to spend money or that certain things weren't available to me. dis all anecdotal of course
having people saying they came out net positive on transactions is also part of dat f2p, reminds me of ppl trying to get me into pyramid schemes.
the idea of having to grind to achieve an equal playing field in league is a little off too in practice, but I understand the sentiment and it certainly exists, just not in a way that seems important to me and my experience at all.
having people saying they came out net positive on transactions is also part of dat f2p, reminds me of ppl trying to get me into pyramid schemes.
the idea of having to grind to achieve an equal playing field in league is a little off too in practice, but I understand the sentiment and it certainly exists, just not in a way that seems important to me and my experience at all.
SteveWinwood
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All I know is he makes a wall that fucks my ashe arrows up.
i didn't mean to say he didn't balance for normal people, just what i personally consider priority. in some cases league works the other way and nerfs something cos it can be abused in pro environment and i'm like "this isn't my fault, f u rito"
i know a lot of people don't agree, but that's what i think, fuck pros
also "get good" is bad because i think champions should be balanced for most if not all levels of play. there shouldn't be a pubstomping champion, that shit should get nerfed, preferably in a way that doesn't hurt higher levels of play, ofc
like of course the way of beating something is outplaying it (even with items like wards or counter-itemization or good summoner spells), the problem is that when something's so imba in lower brackets i feel like that shit's not right. specially like old katarina or something, i can't even imagine bronze players pain
i didn't mean to say he didn't balance for normal people, just what i personally consider priority. in some cases league works the other way and nerfs something cos it can be abused in pro environment and i'm like "this isn't my fault, f u rito"
i know a lot of people don't agree, but that's what i think, fuck pros
also "get good" is bad because i think champions should be balanced for most if not all levels of play. there shouldn't be a pubstomping champion, that shit should get nerfed, preferably in a way that doesn't hurt higher levels of play, ofc
like of course the way of beating something is outplaying it (even with items like wards or counter-itemization or good summoner spells), the problem is that when something's so imba in lower brackets i feel like that shit's not right. specially like old katarina or something, i can't even imagine bronze players pain
Impossible without making everything bland and samey. There is no possible way to make a hero like meepo or chen balanced at low levels.
yea i agree you won't get everything but you should try
like i said before, lebonk, zed, elise, lee sin they're all contested picks, hard to play (i guess easier than meepo but i couldn't say) and are like 43% at worst.
32% is just very ugly
edit: i get that there's some context and earth spirit was broken as fuck and got olaf'd but seriously i can't believe vlave allows that lol.
like i said before, lebonk, zed, elise, lee sin they're all contested picks, hard to play (i guess easier than meepo but i couldn't say) and are like 43% at worst.
32% is just very ugly
edit: i get that there's some context and earth spirit was broken as fuck and got olaf'd but seriously i can't believe vlave allows that lol.
Eh, I don't think so. Pubstompers are generally unfun for people at lower levels, so changing them to make things more fun is reasonable. No one at bronze tier is really harmed, however, by the existence of Earth Spirit or Chen. The dexterity required to play those heroes at their full potential is exactly the kind of thing that lower level players lack. If they could play them well, then they wouldn't be where they were in terms of skill.
Heroes like Earth Spirit and Chen can be remade to be more accessible, sure, but it's not really possible without fundamentally changing how they play. At which point you might as well make an entirely new hero.
Heroes like Earth Spirit and Chen can be remade to be more accessible, sure, but it's not really possible without fundamentally changing how they play. At which point you might as well make an entirely new hero.
SteveWinwood
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its just a number
All it says is that most people suck at the game.
You could have a hero that had a pub winrate of 10% and it be ridiculous overpowered.
Waiting for my mystery skin.
NihonTiger90
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How did I not find this thread sooner? I think I'll fit in at home here (been playing League for a few months now, going to jump into Smite soon as well).
yea, it's two separate issues
first i think pubstomping is bad, burn it with fire
second the winrate thing. i'm reading dotabuff which i dunno how accurate it is but it says meepo and chen (i read invoker too that i guess is hard to play?) and they're in the 44-48%.
so like, it's not like meepo and chen are totally unplayable. it's just earth spirit
which i dunno, sounds like something ot look at if i were icefraud
you'll settle right in
it's important taht you flame your own team in /all chat
that seems to be key to playing yasuu
TharpDaddy
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You missed the most important part: going balls to the wall and diving into the enemy team, dying, and then saying in all chat "gg team too heavy 1v5"
o u
TharpDaddy
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that vlog about his amnesia was super sad tho
TharpDaddy
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For anyone wondering, RobertxLee is a professional League of Legends player who had a head injury and due to amnesia forgot everything about being a professional and a lot of his friends. He did a series of vlogs explaining it which are pretty sad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDqxUQaejIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDqxUQaejIc
TharpDaddy
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gonna go pro
watch the fuck out
Jungle Yasuo? I don't think i've ever seen that. You're an innovator. Feral Flare may be better than Lizard since you'd scale really hard with it.
lez b real haly
Wow...