There is no shame in picking a hero that is available for all. Go, my child, and howl into the wind free of conflicting thoughts.
Introduction to MOBAs
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Sigismundo
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Hi-Rez paid them off back in the day to stream Smite so it makes sense for them to follow it up.
This also caused Riot to draw up that contract that forebode players from playing other games on stream that got changed very quickly.
You just described my typical weekend.
they also have a smite team for some reason
Yea they had a launch tournament I think down in Atlanta a few weeks ago. And they won it all.
SteveWinwood
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One more for the dota everything is random.
Does lol have an attack damage range? Or is it always the exact static number?
Cause dota basically has the dice rolls of old where you do anywhere from 47 to 57 damage and the number it shows is actually an average.
The range depends on the hero tho.
Does lol have an attack damage range? Or is it always the exact static number?
Cause dota basically has the dice rolls of old where you do anywhere from 47 to 57 damage and the number it shows is actually an average.
The range depends on the hero tho.
Thats why doom devours a wolf and not a centaur.
Boken pls, if a team wants to defend their ancient, they'll do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fnbq8q6cvY
Who's that?
Exact static number.
i feel like doto people think we care more than we do about doto1 and such
like i don't know who ghostcrawler or guinsoo or that other dude with the doto site or whoever is
when i started playing the irelia meme was old
i just play the damn game
i feel like doto people think we care more than we do about doto1 and such
like i don't know who ghostcrawler or guinsoo or that other dude with the doto site or whoever is
when i started playing the irelia meme was old
i just play the damn game
what?
Heavy's Sandvich
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I'm not a Loller but I wish he went back to quake.
well like i don't know who this dude is
Dr. Buni
Member
What do you play?
I'm not a loller but he's amusing at times
But also a knob
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yeah, one area where Dota is more restrictive. There's a pretty narrow segment of heroes that make "good mids" (and an even narrower list of heroes who can jungle)
Dr. Buni
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what's a hard support? like a tanky support?
btw i fixed some things about your avatars that were annoying me. feel free to not use 'em, but u know, details like a bit of something on a side of an avatar drive me insane
reila if you have the full pic i can make it a bit less choppy if u want
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
what's a hard support? like a tanky support?
btw i fixed some things about your avatars that were annoying me. feel free to not use 'em, but u know, details like a bit of something on a side of an avatar drive me insane
reila if you have the full pic i can make it a bit less choppy if u want
I'm not sure what I'm looking at. You made it wider?
EDIT: oh, I see it. thanks.
Dr. Buni
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Hard support is the player that is neglected to only support during the match, doing absolutely nothing else but support. I think Keeper of the Light counts as a hard support maybe? Anyway, I like playing heroes that can support, but also kill a enemy hero here and there, maybe gank a few times, like say, Witch Doctor... or push some towers, like Death Prophet... etc.
I suppose you are using the white theme? You can't really see the choppiness of my avatar in the black skin, so that is why I didn't bother trying to make it "smoother". lol Also, I left the detail you removed intentionally, but feel free to make a new avatar for me, if you want. Here is the original pic.
If you're playing Death Propher as solely support/pusher you're doing it wrong. While one of her greatest assets is being able to push quickly, she is an absolute monster in teamfights with Exorcism--provided she is farmed enough and can stay alive. A huge health and mana pool will make her very dangerous, which isn't possible if played as a support that takes no farm. A Death Propher that has snowballed is one of the most fearsome enemies in the midgame, because the spirits will eat you alive and you can't kill her.
perryfarrell
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Why would playing LoL or Dota have anything to do with having an opinion of this dude? What is the use of having 'opinions' on people?
Dr. Buni
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Yeah, I know, but some people seem to think that when one picks Death Prophet, he/she is going to be in the (hard or not) support role. Fortunately, in the few matches I played Death Prophet, my team actually asked for me to take the mid lane and since it is pretty easy to harass when playing her (because of her amazing Crypt Swarm), I got a lot of farm and well, lets say a well farmed Death Prophet is a truly amazing and fun hero to play as.
Speaking of roles, what roles are more indicated to go when playing Mirana and also Luna? Mirana is best as a solo offlaner, right? What about Luna?
a hard support, also known as "ward bitch", is a support that gets minimal gold and spends most of it on utility items.
You are mostly responsible for good setups/saves and providing vision ect. It's rewarding to play well but you are not going to 1v5 the enemy team like a farmed carry can.
Mirana is really versatile and can be played as practically any role (though she isn't the hardest of carries).
Luna can only really be played as carry and maybe a farming mid if the opponent isn't too strong, she has pretty weak lane presence on her own.
a hard support is the opposite of the hard carry and in chinese number terms is the number 5
what this means is that this person will function with next to no gold due to buying all the couriers, wards, dewards, dust, smoke etc while giving up all cs to soft supports(4) or the hard carry\
mirana can do anything
luna is best played tri safe lane
what this means is that this person will function with next to no gold due to buying all the couriers, wards, dewards, dust, smoke etc while giving up all cs to soft supports(4) or the hard carry\
mirana can do anything
luna is best played tri safe lane
Dr. Buni
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So she is like Windrunner, more or less? In terms of versatility, I mean.
Anyway, cool, I don't really enjoy playing hard carry, so I don't mind she not being the hardest of carries.
Eh, it's more of an in-joke than a serious term. Good Position 5 players are really valuable (and pretty rare outside of stacks).
Mirana is a much better carry than Windrunner due to being an AGI hero.
Dr. Buni
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Yes, but I don't play carry. I like playing a support/utility role, so Mirana and Wind being versatile heroes please me, since I like both of them
Speaking of versatile heroes, any suggestions of others I should try playing?
People are silly like that though, they see an int hero(unless it's storm or puck) that and assume support even when it makes no sense. Like the people who run necrophos as a support when his entire damn ability set is built around him getting last hits and kills to give him sustainability. A necro that isn't last hitting is worthless cause he isn't going to have enough mana to do anything.
Likewise DP needs mana regen to spam lanes when pushing, she needs hp and move speed/mobility to survive and duck in and out of team fights to keep her ghosts on target. A hard support DP is going to run out of mana in 3 creep waves and have to go back.
ETA: Mirana can be played in solo offlane in pubs because pubs aren't likely to zone you out of xp range well. On the pro level she is always played as a carry or support though, as she has no way to come back in the game if the trilane shuts her down. Most common solo offlanes currently in the pro scene are heroes that can rotate into the jungle if they aren't getting anything into the hardlane. Mirana can't do this.
i feel like doto people think we care more than we do about doto1 and such
like i don't know who ghostcrawler or guinsoo or that other dude with the doto site or whoever is
when i started playing the irelia meme was old
i just play the damn game
Isn't ghostcrawler a WoW thing?
He recently joined Riot, but naturally not all leeg people know who he is.
A snowballed dp is scary. One of the first I try to lock down immediatly.
Yes, but I don't play carry. I like playing a support/utility role, so Mirana and Wind being versatile heroes please me, since I like both of them
Speaking of versatile heroes, any suggestions of others I should try playing?
Well there are lots of carries that can be played support or mid as you see with Naga Siren in the pro scene lately. Lane dominating heroes like OD and Lone Druid are versatile in that they can lane basically anywhere and come out reasonably well, but they are not versatile in roles, cause they would both suck as supports.
Clockwerk is one of my favorite versatile heroes, he is best in a solo offlane role generally, but can be run support or semicarry with the right backup, and he is super fun to play.
Rubick is really versatile of course, and invoker as well, but that is a different type of versatility, it's more versatility within a role rather than ability to fill many different roles.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yes, but I don't play carry. I like playing a support/utility role, so Mirana and Wind being versatile heroes please me, since I like both of them
Speaking of versatile heroes, any suggestions of others I should try playing?
Check out Naga Siren perhaps. She leans a bit more towards the carry side but she can be a great support/split pusher as well.
Pugna is another good one. He exists in this weird position where I'm not honestly sure what he is (other then pusher maybe). He often starts out as a support but his abilities are so good that he can often get kills that spiral into an Aghanims Scepter that turns him into a nightmare.
Dr. Buni
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Harassing with Clockwerk is so fun. I also like him because he isn't very farm dependent.
I still can't use his skills properly, though (and the same is valid for Timbersaw).
As of Rubick, I enjoyed playing him, his skillset is pretty fun to use. What I hated was his abysmal movement speed. A fucking snail moves faster than Rubick -______-
I will check Naga Siren. I thought she was exclusively a carry, hmm.
And Pugna is fun! Although people kind of scared me about Pugna being a shit hero for competitive purposes.
Last question: What about Razor? In which role he fits in better?
SteveWinwood
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People only seem to play naga at the two extremes, either the dirt poor support naga who is only picked and used for one spell to the radiance take everything on the map hard pushing carry. She's versatile, but not in the same way as mirana who can fit anywhere on the scale.
Pugna is a good answer. You can have nothing and still do well, or you can wreck with aghs, dagon.
Recently meepo has been seen as not as the carry everyone thought he was. So possibly there is your up and comer (micro required).
Pugna is a good answer. You can have nothing and still do well, or you can wreck with aghs, dagon.
Recently meepo has been seen as not as the carry everyone thought he was. So possibly there is your up and comer (micro required).
Harassing with Clockwerk is so fun. I also like him because he isn't very farm dependent.
I still can't use his skills properly, though (and the same is valid for Timbersaw).
As of Rubick, I enjoyed playing him, his skillset is pretty fun to use. What I hated was his abysmal movement speed. A fucking snail moves faster than Rubick -______-
I will check Naga Siren. I thought she was exclusively a carry, hmm.
And Pugna is fun! Although people kind of scared me about Pugna being a shit hero for competitive purposes.
Last question: What about Razor? In which role he fits in better?
Steve covered Naga and Pugna (use him to push push push btw), Razor is a mid or carry. He doesn't do a whole lot without farm. Though you can still make him fun through the Agh's Refresher build.
Harassing with Clockwerk is so fun. I also like him because he isn't very farm dependent.
I still can't use his skills properly, though (and the same is valid for Timbersaw).
As of Rubick, I enjoyed playing him, his skillset is pretty fun to use. What I hated was his abysmal movement speed. A fucking snail moves faster than Rubick -______-
I will check Naga Siren. I thought she was exclusively a carry, hmm.
And Pugna is fun! Although people kind of scared me about Pugna being a shit hero for competitive purposes.
Last question: What about Razor? In which role he fits in better?
Razor is a carry and more farm dependent. Probably my favorite carry in the game. I prefer to play him and the outside lanes instead of mid. I tend to get more kills that way.
So yeah I just saw this and really people if you didn't click the link first time do it now.
HOLD THE LINE!!!
Dr. Buni
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I am too lazy for micro-required heroes 
I see. Thanks! Seems like I have a hero to pick when I am supposed to be the/a carry in the team. I really enjoy Razor.