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StrikerObi
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CiSTM said:
Convert to AAC (.m4a), change file extension to .m4r, import into iTunes. The finished clip needs to be <40 seconds long or iTunes won't recognize it as a ringtone.
StrikerObi
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gigapower said:
If you do this, GarageBand compresses the shit out of the audio and it will sound awful. You are much better using "Export to Disk" under the same menu and just changing the the file extension yourself. It's just as easy and you will have an infinitely better sounding ringtone.
NekoFever
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I'm thinking of jailbreaking my 3G now that it can be unlocked - I assume that 2.3 or whatever comes next will be much harder to unlock and I'm keeping future resale value in mind - but it's really hard to find a straight, up-to-date answer on a lot of questions that I have. Would anyone here care to help?
- After I jailbreak it with QuickPwn or PwnageTool can I restore from my existing pre-jailbreak backup and keep my texts, call history, etc?
- If I want to go back to official firmware for whatever reason in the future is that a matter of just restoring through iTunes?
- What's the deal at the moment with how 10.5.6 doesn't play nice with iPhones in DFU mode? Is there a reliable way around the limitation?
Thanks for the help. Like I said, tons of information out there but it's a pain to find the most recent stuff and there's all kinds of jargon that I'm unsure about.
- After I jailbreak it with QuickPwn or PwnageTool can I restore from my existing pre-jailbreak backup and keep my texts, call history, etc?
- If I want to go back to official firmware for whatever reason in the future is that a matter of just restoring through iTunes?
- What's the deal at the moment with how 10.5.6 doesn't play nice with iPhones in DFU mode? Is there a reliable way around the limitation?
Thanks for the help. Like I said, tons of information out there but it's a pain to find the most recent stuff and there's all kinds of jargon that I'm unsure about.
Kung Fu Jedi
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StrikerObi said:
GarageBand works great for me, and I've never noticed any difference in sound.
krypt0nian
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Any rumors of new firmware in the works?
I haven't seen anything in ages.
I haven't seen anything in ages.
Odious Tea
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I don't see what they'd do besides marginally improve stability or add new features, though. 2.2 has been rock solid for me.LCfiner said:
So I Quickpwned my phone. 2nd time I've jailbroken it. The first time I restored it because it runs so much better without the homebrew apps. But I wanted some Chrono Trigger on the go so I did it. And got a nice FLCL theme, too. But of course things run slower now...and I can't even find the emulator on the guy's official repo. So I'm thinking about going back to the vanilla again. What's the appeal of the jailbreak again? Besides themes...
alternatively I could pay a one off fee for the handset of £99 and then its £30 a month. I'm torn between these two tariffs because i've decided that I want a contract phone rather than pay as you go. Which should I go for?Dragnet said:£45?
02s contracts are fucking bullshit. PAYG is TWTG.
krypt0nian
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R Squared said:
Standard text support
Voice dial via BT
cut and paste
NekoFever
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If the tariffs are the same as when the 3G launched the £30 one is clearly there just to get people through the door. The £35 one is far better value unless you need the more expensive ones with higher allowances or are intent on getting a cheaper handset.Stocka said:
Incidentally, how does the iPhone on PAYG handle data? The amount I use mine for email and Internet access I can't see how it would work out cheaper without the unlimited data plan.
krypt0nian
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Terrell said:
You know...texts with sound/pics.
And as far as cut paste, I mean selecting text and pasting it somewhere else.
CrunchinJelly
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I'd like to see the Weather and Clock icons made dynamic like the Calendar icon.
Any phone that I've seen in the past 5 years lets you access Facebook, Flickr and many other points where such data can be shared with a very basic carrier-limited browsing plan (sometimes offered for free with the plan you already have), not even mentioning how many cell phones have email capabilities. So MMS, which is an ADDITION to the SMS "standard" seems clunky and outmoded from the start. If I want to share something with people, I post it and tell them to check my Facebook. And they do the same. I have seriously never met someone in the digital age that actually uses MMS. If I want to share media, I find another way that's equally accessible to anyone who doesn't own a dinosaur phone. Thanks to BeejiveIM, I barely even use SMS anymore, since everyone I know with a cell phone also uses MSN on it.krypt0nian said:
And I know what cut and paste is, but someone needs to explain to me why it's such an urgent necessity.
Terrell said:
Uh, not everyone has a web-access phone. The great part about MMS messaging is that the picture is sent right to their cell phone, no matter the model, and they're more likely to see it immediately. I know exactly 0 people who run MSN on their phone.
Also, by "dinosaur phone", are you referring to the vast majority of cell phones sold today? I know that the iPhone is popular, but most people still do not have anything that could be comfortably called a smart phone.
Cut and paste is just a convenience issue. Want to grab a quote from somewhere and throw it into an e-mail or note? Too bad! Not something that's terribly bothersome but certainly an annoyance.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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E-mail the photo to Flickr with the Flickr upload e-mail they assign to you.HoTHiTTeR said:
Like I said, anyone who doesn't have a dinosaur phone. My cousin bought her phone in 2003, a regular old candybar cellphone, which she got for free with her first contract... and she uses Facebook, Flickr and god knows what else through the provider-restricted "mobile browsing". Which was given to her by her provider. FOR FREE. So don't give me this "not everyone has a data plan or a smartphone" bullshit, those things aren't required to use the better alternatives to MMS that already exist. for people who bought a cellphone in the past 5 years.Wraith said:
As for the cut-and-paste example you provide? Send and email with the link to the article, "read paragraph 4". Done. It's a PHONE, and people want it to be a computer replacement, I don't get it.
Terrell said:
MMS is deliberately left out because they want people to use the email software.
As for cut and paste - it's not an URGENT NECESSITY, but c'mon, it would be nice!
Just cut and pasting things between notes, or between sms messages - anything really. Sure it's not hugely important, but it's a basic feature that the phone does need. Anything that you can input text on a key board should allow for cut and paste somehow.
Terrell said:
Do all or even most plans give free data these days? It's possible that I missed something here but my impression was that most plans require an additional data fee to access things like Facebook and Flickr from a phone and that the charge for ad hoc data was still pretty obscene.
Either way, the basis of the MMS argument is that it's a basic phone function. It's not unreasonable to expect a phone with so many incredible abilities to have a function found in 99% of its competitors, most of which are far cheaper.
Re: cut and paste, you don't think it's a little ridiculous to have to send an entire article or delete all but one sentence from an article in order to send something? Again, I'm not arguing that the feature is a must-have or that there aren't numerous ways to bypass this limitation. I'm simply saying that this is an annoyance.
Frankly, I don't understand why you're getting so defensive.
Ad Infinitum
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i know this is dedicated to the iPhone, but is there a way i can get my wallpaper to appear on the background of the home page of my iPod touch as well as the screen that comes up when i unlock?
Most providers offer a carrier-restricted web access function with partnered websites and search engines. Facebook, Flickr and the like are almost always included in that list of partnered sites due to their prolific use in internet culture and those companies' willingness to develop mobile-specific access to their services. Providers are often extremely willing to provide that service as a courtesy to customers signing contracts.Wraith said:
So yeah, you definitely missed something there.
I'm not defensive, I'm just bloody sick of listening to every discussion about this phone boiling down to these two bloody features that I have NEVER... EVER.... EVER needed or been inclined to request. I don't write mini-novella emails from a damn phone, that's what a computer is for, so why does one feel a need to quote a giant block of text that can be bookmarked and done in comfort from a device that is designed for this function? I know Blackberry phones offer this and everything, but I've owned a Blackberry and STILL never used the feature. Why? Because massive text manipulation is not intuitive on a device like that. It's cumbersome and a waste of time doing something that takes a lot more work than necessary when it's a task that takes absolutely nothing on a computer, which I KNOW I will be inclined to use within a few hours anyways.Wraith said:
I just... don't get it. I don't get why people think it's "cool", I don't get why people want it so badly when the actual act of using it is destined to be an annoyance. So I am merely requesting an adequate explanation.
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damn, the new touch isn't jailbroken yet?
Terrell said:
A couple of things.
First - Man, I understand what you are saying, but you are waaayyyy too broad here. There are a lot of people who use MMS, whether it be 1)the device they use or 2)the very fact that MMS is included in a great deal of phones making it flat out unnecessary to use an alternative. It's just a simple fact.
It would be nice if everyone used the other alternatives out there, or got used to emailing their photos, or had blackberrys and iphones. But they don't. And it's not that iPhone users are lamenting that they can't do it - it's the fact that we all interact with people that do. And despite having a better phone, that puts us at a disadvantage.
Pure and simple, to have a phone as advanced as the iPhone missing the feature that the folks (WITH their 'dinosaur phones') take for granted is unfortunate.
Second - I am amazed that you would try and make this dinosaur phone argument about MMS and then in the very same post talk about how pointless cut-and-paste is. :lol CnP is particularly useful if you use the phone frequently in a business environment, but more importantly it is a staple of the 'advanced' phones like the blackberry.
You are totally going in two opposite directions here. You just criticized 'dinosaur phones' and then advanced 'like a computer phones'. All in the same post.
To put it simply, the iPhone is missing something all the 'dinosaur phones' can do and something all the 'modern phones' can as well. I love the phone and consider it the best I've ever owned, but those are both things that I can understand the criticism about.
Terrell said:
Can you link to some proof of this? I'm definitely willing to admit I'm wrong here, but I've never seen nor heard of it and a Google search is not helping me out. I'd love to be able to tell my friends that any of them can head to these sites for free.
Even if true, though, this option is still far less convenient than simply throwing the pic into a text message and sending it. One requires the recipient to simply open the message. One action! The other requires the user to login or at the very least hit a site from a device that may or may not be running a decent browser.
Terrell said:
The first point to address here is that people use devices in different ways. The fact that my father doesn't see a need to own a microwave is not a convincing argument as to why I shouldn't own a microwave.
The second is that no one is talking about mini-novellas or giant blocks of text. We're talking about, as a previous poster mentioned, copying a line of text or two from an MMS message, web page, or note and pasting it somewhere else.
Terrell said:
There are a million things that each one of us don't "get." It doesn't make them invalid. You've been given several explanations as to why these features have been requested. Whether or not you find them adequate is, frankly, totally irrelevant.
I'm not going in two different directions. Cut and paste, in all its forms, is not intuitive on a phone of ANY stripe. How long does it take you to cut & paste something on a computer? Seconds. Now think about what is required to achieve that exact same result on a phone? How do you differentiate the touch on the screen in a web site of two fingers to copy-paste to the touch of two fingers to activate the zoom? No one ever considers the actual method of usability and how it would complicate the UI, or how much time it would actually take to use the feature if it were actually implemented.Vyer said:
https://www.rogers.com/web/content/...als?content10=unlimited_ondevice_mobile#startWraith said:
From my home country, this is the $7 carrier-restricted browsing I refer to. Rogers has been offering this free to its customers for a while now as a contract incentive or as an addition to value packages for additional services, as have its major competitors.
A line or two? People honestly can't remember a line or two of text and retype it or paraphrase it? That sounds less like a software deficiency and more of a memory problem.Wraith said:
Terrell said:
The iPhone's designers have proven that they can make seemingly complex features extremely easy to use. Surely they can find something for C&P.
As far as memory goes, sure I can remember a line or two. Would it not be easier to simply grab them, though?
Anywho, debating this further seems pointless. Just as you don't think I've provided a reasonable argument as to why I want these features, I don't think you've provided a reasonably argument as to why they'd hinder you. I don't see this changing. We obviously use our phones in different ways. Diversity, baby!
EDIT: Ack, I missed your edit. It's cool that Rogers offers that. I don't think we have the same thing in the US, though. Again, I'd love to be wrong on this point.
Terrell said:
COME ON.
There are apps out there that have implemented a cut and paste system that seem to work fine. Sure, being fiddly is not really Apple's thing, but there could simply be something like click and hold to highlight and then some buttons to paste.
It's not impossible.
And it's NOT about remembering anything. Since when was cut and paste about remembering anything? It's just about a small convenience. For example, cutting and pasting a URL to email somebody? That would be very useful.
Kung Fu Jedi
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mrkgoo said:
That's already implemented and doesn't require cut and paste. On the webpage, just hit the "+" button at the bottom of the page and select the "e-mail address" option.
copy and paste would be simple. the device is multi touch, so utilize it: implement a system-wide two finger swipe across the phone.
after you do a two finger swipe, the phone enters a "copy/paste mode". from here, just highlight the text to copy with your finger. (from safari or something)
two finger swipe again to copy that text and exit "copy/paste mode".
exit safari and open up mail. to paste, three finger swipe in the text area.
after you do a two finger swipe, the phone enters a "copy/paste mode". from here, just highlight the text to copy with your finger. (from safari or something)
two finger swipe again to copy that text and exit "copy/paste mode".
exit safari and open up mail. to paste, three finger swipe in the text area.
Terrell said:
Um, sorry man but...
Terrell said:
...how can you really comment on it, based on this?
On a regular basis, SOME people can use/do use cut and paste. Blackberrys have been doing it for years. The TOUCH SCREEN Storm can do it. How in the heck have you, an iPhone user who sees just how well Apple has implemented so many features, come to the conclusion that they couldn't do this as well?
We aren't asking the phone to make toast here. This is something that has been a part of smartphones, is a part of smartphones, and has been used on a regular basis on said smartphones.
It's simple as that.
Does it mean it's a deal breaker, or I can't live without the features? Obviously not. And like I said, there are waaayy more positives than negatives for me. But that doesn't mean it isn't a valid request/feature for me (and a lot of folks). You seem to have trouble acknowledging that. As far as actual uses of CnP, I can give you some examples of that if that's what you are looking for, but they aren't much different than what most people use it for.
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