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[Kung Fu Jedi]

Anyone else download any of the Xbox Live apps for the iPhone? Now that MS has said that they must be free, I've given a couple of them a shot, and they're both decent, but lacking at the same time. Hopefully one or the other will get an upgrade that makes them stand out. Kind of cool to check up on friends and be able to send messages to them directly from the iPhone. I'm using iLive and 1337pwn, haven't looked at Xbox Live Friends.

Oh, and how cool would it be if they found a way to implement the ability to send a "wake on LAN" request to you Xbox and have it download demos fro you while you're away, like MS showed in their demonstration a few years back as a possibility of what "Live Anywhere" could do in the future.

 

[AirBrian]

Hmm, my just acquired iPhone seemed to be fine all day today at work -- yet here at my house, well above ground (3rd floor) the phone keeps dropping 3G signal, switching to Edge and oscillating between those two (which are fine) and a lot of No Service messaging. Anyone had similar issues like this?

I have the same problem at my place, but I also had drops when I was with T-Mobile. There's one spot in the living room that I get horrible reception, but if I move to the kitchen or office it's completely fine. :lol

Outside of my known dead-zones, I haven't had any problems with it that some seem to have.

Anyone else download any of the Xbox Live apps for the iPhone? Now that MS has said that they must be free, I've given a couple of them a shot, and they're both decent, but lacking at the same time. Hopefully one or the other will get an upgrade that makes them stand out. Kind of cool to check up on friends and be able to send messages to them directly from the iPhone. I'm using iLive and 1337pwn, haven't looked at Xbox Live Friends.

Oh, and how cool would it be if they found a way to implement the ability to send a "wake on LAN" request to you Xbox and have it download demos fro you while you're away, like MS showed in their demonstration a few years back as a possibility of what "Live Anywhere" could do in the future.

Oh, nice. I'll have to check those out.

 

[dallow_bg]

It's an OS limitation, apparently. Not related to Mobile Fotos.

I don't know man. iFlickr on the 1.x.x FW uploaded at full res.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Video of the BlackBerry Bold taking on the iPhone for web browsing.

http://gizmodo.com/5039886/video-blackberry-bold-vs-iphone-web-browser-showdown-it-gets-ugly

The Bold is suppose to have a much better browser than previous offerings from RIM, giving users the opportunity to use their BlackBerry to do more things.

Edit: Apparently in the first video the Bold isn't using WiFi, even though the narrator says it is. Somehow it gets turned off in the test, but not really sure how. Anyway, and updated test using the Bold on WiFi is here:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/21/debunk-blackberry-bolds-browser-on-wifi-actually-not-that-slow/

Still fairly slow compared to the iPhone on the same page.

 

[Terrell]

So i'm going to Japan in 10 days (for a gap year) and am thinking of purchasing an iPhone 3G. My current phone won't work there so i'm looking for an upgrade, i'm assuming an iPhone 3G would be a sensible one? And would it be more wise to buy prior to going or once I get there in Tokyo? And I won't need more than one SIM right?
(I'm a bit clueless with phones)

Buy it in Japan. Softbank's early cancellation fees are supposedly more reasonable than AT&T's (or O2's for that matter, just saw your profile), so if you're going to be there for a whole year, just get it there. You don't even pay for the phone up-front there, it's paid over the course of your contract in installments. And enjoy the flex-plan pricing for data use, while you're at it. Just read up on Softbank's pricing first to make sure I read it all correctly.

 

[Patrick Klepek]

I don't know man. iFlickr on the 1.x.x FW uploaded at full res.

Mobile Fotos, from what I can tell, is an evolution of iFlickr. It has to play by the rules. Plus, I believe you can pull the full-resolution photos so long as you're exporting it via iPhoto, or something. It just can't pull from the camera roll --> Flickr at the high-res. I'll have to double check, though.

Oh, and how cool would it be if they found a way to implement the ability to send a "wake on LAN" request to you Xbox and have it download demos fro you while you're away, like MS showed in their demonstration a few years back as a possibility of what "Live Anywhere" could do in the future.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/08/21/xbl-app-add-friends-remotely/

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/08/21/xbl-app-add-friends-remotely/

I actually saw that after I made my post above. The 1337pwn Live App is my favorite of the three so far, although iLive is promising some nice upgrades in the next version. Managing your friends remotely would actually be pretty damn awesome though.

 

[HoTHiTTeR]

Mochasoft just launched Remote Desktop Lite.

Doesn't work w/ Vista. Heartbreaker.

 

[dallow_bg]

Mobile Fotos, from what I can tell, is an evolution of iFlickr. It has to play by the rules. Plus, I believe you can pull the full-resolution photos so long as you're exporting it via iPhoto, or something. It just can't pull from the camera roll --> Flickr at the high-res. I'll have to double check, though.

Yeah, I know how to pull the full res pics otherwise.
Oh well, it's better than nothing, so I may give it a try.

 

[Firestorm]

1337pwn looks like a good app. I hate the name though. Any way to change that? :lol

HOW?!

Check out these threads:
Read OP and last few pages of: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111887
Maybe the last few pages of this: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=859401

If you're within 30 days of your iPhone you'd be in a better position to bargain. What I did was directly reference the Samsung Instinct and Bell's $15 Fun bundle which includes unlimited data, text messaging, caller id, and voicemail. I guess even if you did just sign 3 years for the iPhone you could explain to them how you're planning to sell the iPhone to recoup costs and then save $15 a month with Bell.

How long you've been with Rogers, if you're on time with your payments and stuff, and how many Rogers services you have can all affect what you get I think. You'll want to have at least been with them 6 months. Over 1 year is probably good. Over 3 years and they better be willing to go the distance for you. If you don't like what you're offered, just say "Hm. I'll think about the offer" and hang up. You can also ask them to make a note of the offer on the account, although I believe they don't always do that.

Accessing retentions is done by calling 611, saying "Cancel" and being connected to a rep. They will not cancel your account right away. You'll have to tell 'em multiple times for that =P

I've actually said to them that I'm fairly happy with Rogers service and it's just their price points that are making me switch so that they know what it is they need to do to keep me.

Remember to ALWAYS stay polite. Do not attack them. Do not get angry. My tips I posted on RFD:
Before Calling:
- Know exactly what your plan is
- Know what the competition is offering
- Figure out what needs to be changed on your plan to suit your needs
- Know what you're willing to sign a 3 year contract for, what phone you want

During the call:
- BE POLITE JEBUS. I work retail. I've worked as a rep at a Rogers store. Customers being unreasonable are horrible and I definitely treat them differently than customers who are polite and friendly (who I'd go the extra mile for). I'm assuming it's the same with these reps
- When I called I've stated that I was happy with the service but wanted to cancel purely due to price (which is true, I like Rogers but I do not like their prices)
- Tell them what the competition is offering that you want, which parts of your plan you like, and what can be tweaked (so what can be creditted really) so that you are happy with your price plan
- Just say you'll think about it and hang up if the rep does not seem to want to budge

I've had best results around 1PM - 2PM Eastern on weekdays. I figure that's the time the most experienced retentions reps would be on as that's regular work hours in both Pacific and Eastern time zones and isn't during lunch.

Of course, with those points in mind, remember that I never really went for any "retention plans". I just wanted features that the competition was charging less for or just wanted credits as I found Caller ID to be essential, but couldn't really afford paying more at the time. I didn't try to completely change around my plan.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

1337pwn looks like a good app. I hate the name though. Any way to change that? :lol

I feel exactly the same way. Stupid damn name. :lol If the App works well though, I won't care about the name I suppose. iLive is pretty decent too, but it's much slower than 1337pwn. Hopefully their upgrade will be better.

 

[rkenshin]

I feel exactly the same way. Stupid damn name. :lol If the App works well though, I won't care about the name I suppose. iLive is pretty decent too, but it's much slower than 1337pwn. Hopefully their upgrade will be better.

If you have a jailbroken unit then Cydia has a Rename app

 

[Firestorm]

Invisible Shield is 50% off: http://www.zagg.com/showspecial
20% off coupon from previous customers stacks with it. As does the 20% for ordering two items or 30% for ordering three items.

Installation Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMHw0ULnrMU

 

[JakOfTheShadows]

Invisible Shield is 50% off: http://www.zagg.com/showspecial
20% off coupon from previous customers stacks with it. As does the 20% for ordering two items or 30% for ordering three items.

Installation Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMHw0ULnrMU

Do you use this on your iphone? If so would mind giving a quick impression of it? Thanks.

 

[Firestorm]

Do you use this on your iphone? If so would mind giving a quick impression of it? Thanks.

I haven't. I hear it's really recommended. I'm trying to decide between this and the Power Support Anti-Glare screen. I know the back is more easily scratched than the screen, but I'm more worried about fingerprints and the display as that's what I'll be looking at...

I want the anti-glare because I've heard it's easier to drag your fingers across on it due to the textured feel, doesn't retain fingerprints, and helps with glare (I will be using my phone on public transit most). Invisible Shield is cheaper, better for actual protection, and I think easier to align correctly. The con with Anti-Glare is that the screen becomes matte and colours won't be as vibrant (which I think I may even prefer).

However, my local Apple Store seems to be sold out of the Power Supports and I'd have to order the InvisibleShield and wait at least 7 days (with $5 shipping) or 3 weeks (with free shipping) =(

 

[JakOfTheShadows]

I haven't. I hear it's really recommended. I'm trying to decide between this and the Power Support Anti-Glare screen. I know the back is more easily scratched than the screen, but I'm more worried about fingerprints and the display as that's what I'll be looking at...

I want the anti-glare because I've heard it's easier to drag your fingers across on it due to the textured feel, doesn't retain fingerprints, and helps with glare (I will be using my phone on public transit most). Invisible Shield is cheaper, better for actual protection, and I think easier to align correctly. The con with Anti-Glare is that the screen becomes matte and colours won't be as vibrant (which I think I may even prefer).

However, my local Apple Store seems to be sold out of the Power Supports and I'd have to order the InvisibleShield and wait at least 7 days (with $5 shipping) or 3 weeks (with free shipping) =(

I hear you man. I just got my iphone last night so I'm just starting to really look into the different screen protectors. Also trying to scan this thread for any impressions that have been given. Thanks.

 

[Macam]

I want the anti-glare because I've heard it's easier to drag your fingers across on it due to the textured feel, doesn't retain fingerprints, and helps with glare (I will be using my phone on public transit most). Invisible Shield is cheaper, better for actual protection, and I think easier to align correctly. The con with Anti-Glare is that the screen becomes matte and colours won't be as vibrant (which I think I may even prefer).

I have Power Support Anti-Glare screen and everything you said is spot on. I don't really have much of an issue with the colors honestly; it's so marginal that you hardly even notice. It was a bit tricky align properly at the outset, but it was nothing that an extra 10 seconds of fiddling couldn't fix. They do provide you with a second cover in any case.

And for what it's worth, I'm not a fan of fancy cases, so I nabbed Incase's bare bones case while I was at the store getting my phone and, in combination with the PowerSupport screen, it works great. There's almost no added bulk to the phone's profile, and they both provide basic coverage of the phone along with better tactile feedback and comfort.

 

[LCfiner]

I haven't. I hear it's really recommended. I'm trying to decide between this and the Power Support Anti-Glare screen. I know the back is more easily scratched than the screen, but I'm more worried about fingerprints and the display as that's what I'll be looking at...

I want the anti-glare because I've heard it's easier to drag your fingers across on it due to the textured feel, doesn't retain fingerprints, and helps with glare (I will be using my phone on public transit most). Invisible Shield is cheaper, better for actual protection, and I think easier to align correctly. The con with Anti-Glare is that the screen becomes matte and colours won't be as vibrant (which I think I may even prefer).

However, my local Apple Store seems to be sold out of the Power Supports and I'd have to order the InvisibleShield and wait at least 7 days (with $5 shipping) or 3 weeks (with free shipping) =(

A coworker of mine has the zagg shield on the screen and i don't recommend it. in fact, he's said a couple times that he might take it off the front (but he is paranoid about scratching the front) It has a weird texture and doesn't quite match up to the smooth glass. the back is a different story. the zagg shield works fine as rear scratch protection.

for the front, the ant glare screen is amazing against fingerprints and is crazy easy to put on. lots of us have it in this thread and i think we'd all recommend it if you don't like fingerprints.

 

[Juice]

My 2.0.2 was fine until today. This morning, however:

1. 8 Gigs of music and iPod states there are no songs/content on the phone (They're still in iTunes

2. Every single non-standard app crashes

I'm doing a restore now, but that was extremely disruptive not having music, radio, twitter, etc. today.

 

[bionic77]

I have used bestskinsever skins to good effect on ipods, ipod touches, and now the iphone.

Installation is a pain in the ass. You need to be a dust free environment (best time to install is in the bathroom after hot shower), and then you need to apply a soapy solution to the skin. After a day the skin is usually well fitted and is hard to detect.

I don't know what the difference is between bestskins and invisible shield, but bestskins are much cheaper.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

I'm using the Power Support shield. I wish there was a medium between the Zagg and this one. The Zagg feels super durable--this one is super usable. It's easy to place--and if you fuck up, it's static, so just pick it up (with a piece of scotch tape) and try again. It feels pretty durable, but I'm not sure that it could take a sharp poke or scrape as well as the Zagg.

 

[Hellsing321]

I have a zagg shield on the back and power-support anti-glare for the front. Works wonderfully and the zagg shield gives you that extra grip so you don't feel like it's going to slip out of your hand every time you take it out of your pocket. Only tricky part is applying the shield.

 

[guise]

So im going to the states tomorrow (have a UK iPhone) ... i know ill need to turn data roaming off... anything else i should do?

 

[Undeux]

I have a Mac at home and a PC at work - can I plug my iPhone into both and transfer music to it? I have some problems with this with my old Ipod and I wasn't sure if it's okay to do with the phone. I already have it synched to my Mac, but I'm not sure if there's any risk to plugging it into the PC.

 

[Tobor]

My 2.0.2 was fine until today. This morning, however:

1. 8 Gigs of music and iPod states there are no songs/content on the phone (They're still in iTunes

2. Every single non-standard app crashes

I'm doing a restore now, but that was extremely disruptive not having music, radio, twitter, etc. today.

Did you sync right before the issues started?

 

[Mr.Squirrel]

I have a Mac at home and a PC at work - can I plug my iPhone into both and transfer music to it? I have some problems with this with my old Ipod and I wasn't sure if it's okay to do with the phone. I already have it synched to my Mac, but I'm not sure if there's any risk to plugging it into the PC.

You can use it with a PC, but you can only sync with one itunes library at a time. There's a app on cydia/installer (not sure if its been ported to 2.0) that allows you to sync between 2 itunes library at the same time, but I could never get the damn thing to work. If you try to sync, it'll tell you its synced to another library and that ull have to delete everything off ur phone to sync

 

[Undeux]

You can use it with a PC, but you can only sync with one itunes library at a time. There's a app on cydia/installer (not sure if its been ported to 2.0) that allows you to sync between 2 itunes library at the same time, but I could never get the damn thing to work. If you try to sync, it'll tell you its synced to another library and that ull have to delete everything off ur phone to sync

Does that include manually dropping files? I don't want to sync to the PC, but I have all of my music on it, so I'd like to drop a few gb worth onto my phone.

Edit: nevermind, just noticed that you have to check "sync music" to even manually add music. that sucks.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Terrible news!

My iPhone drops to no signal when I am sitting on the toilet. It is the only place in the whole house that gets a bad reception! FIX IT APPLE!!!

 

[shuri]

Terrible news!

My iPhone drops to no signal when I am sitting on the toilet. It is the only place in the whole house that gets a bad reception! FIX IT APPLE!!!

a team of engineers is coming your way

 

[mattiewheels]

Terrible news!

My iPhone drops to no signal when I am sitting on the toilet. It is the only place in the whole house that gets a bad reception! FIX IT APPLE!!!

bring your toilet into the apple store and let the geniuses work their magic!

 

[bionic77]

Terrible news!

My iPhone drops to no signal when I am sitting on the toilet. It is the only place in the whole house that gets a bad reception! FIX IT APPLE!!!

More of a problem with At&t. But I have a solution for you.

Get one of those antennas that increase the strength of your cell phone signal throughout your house. Yeah you will have to pay a few hundred to get one and you will probably get cancer in your ass, but at least you will have a strong 5 bar connection whenever you have to sit on the toilet!

 

[Hellsing321]

More of a problem with At&t. But I have a solution for you.

Get one of those antennas that increase the strength of your cell phone signal throughout your house. Yeah you will have to pay a few hundred to get one and you will probably get cancer in your ass, but at least you will have a strong 5 bar connection whenever you have to sit on the toilet!

Or he could just get WiFi.

 

[bionic77]

Or he could just get WiFi.

But then he won't be able to text or call anyone while he is on the crapper.

 

[Juice]

Did you sync right before the issues started?

Yeah, I did. It's been this way ever since I started up this morning.

Even the restore didn't fix it! I'm contemplating restoring and NOT restoring the backup

 

[Juice]

Oh God. I think I have this. I have like 70 aps installed.

http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/08/21/iphone-os-202-crashes-too-many-applications/

We previously covered an issue apparently caused by iPhone OS 2.0.2 in which some third-party applications crash or do not launch, for many users. We’ve now received reports indicating that the problem is almost universally eliminated by reducing the number of applications installed on the iPhone.

Reader David Sternlight writes:

“After reviewing this further and discussing it with Apple support, it appears the quit on launch after splash screen problem with iPhone 3rd party apps is caused by a bug triggered by having ‘too many’ such apps on the iPhone. Reducing the number from 6 pages worth to a bit under 3 pages worth seems to provide a temporary fix. Apple is aware of the problem; it is high on their priority list.”

A less-than-desirable fix to be sure.

Meanwhile, the following laborious process may also provide relief:

On the iPhone go to Settings, General, Reset, and Erase All Content and Settings.
On the host computer, in iTunes, navigate to Applications on left-hand bar.
Click on any application, select all (command-A),and delete them (command-click on any one). When the options window comes up, select move to trash. Empty the trash.
In iTunes, Sync the iPhone without any music or video selected.
In iTunes, reinstall all desired apps.
In iTunes, sync again.
Add back desired music, video, etc via another sync
See our previous coverage for more fixes.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

Oh God. I think I have this. I have like 70 aps installed.

http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/08/21/iphone-os-202-crashes-too-many-applications/

Cool, good to know that the problems are caused by using the phone as intended.

 

[Superblatt]

Video of the BlackBerry Bold taking on the iPhone for web browsing.

http://gizmodo.com/5039886/video-blackberry-bold-vs-iphone-web-browser-showdown-it-gets-ugly

The Bold is suppose to have a much better browser than previous offerings from RIM, giving users the opportunity to use their BlackBerry to do more things.

Edit: Apparently in the first video the Bold isn't using WiFi, even though the narrator says it is. Somehow it gets turned off in the test, but not really sure how. Anyway, and updated test using the Bold on WiFi is here:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/21/debunk-blackberry-bolds-browser-on-wifi-actually-not-that-slow/

Still fairly slow compared to the iPhone on the same page.

:lol The iPhone is so far beyond other mobile devices it's becoming a joke.

 

[Hellsing321]

But then he won't be able to text or call anyone while he is on the crapper.

And the people he is calling or texting will thank him for it.

 

[Gary Whitta]

:lol The iPhone is so far beyond other mobile devices it's becoming a joke.

LOL it really is a joke. Not to mention the Bold's browser looks like total shit compared to the iPhone.

 

[Terrell]

Cool, good to know that the problems are caused by using the phone as intended.

Yeah, because every phone is intended to have just under 100 different pieces of software on it.
Seriously, some people's children...

 

[Juice]

Yeah, because every phone is intended to have just under 100 different pieces of software on it.
Seriously, some people's children...

9x16+4=148

It's intended to have 148 different pieces of software on it.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

Yeah, because every phone is intended to have just under 100 different pieces of software on it.
Seriously, some people's children...

People are sooooo defensive about this damn phone. I have one and love it, but I know it isn't perfect. The criticism is relevant--if the phone has the space for the apps, then the mere act of having something installed shouldn't burden it; if that is the case, then they need to set a lock. There are a hell of a lot more apps on the store than 100 and there is more than enough space for installing 100+, some people will take advantage of that.

 

[Firestorm]

:lol The iPhone is so far beyond other mobile devices it's becoming a joke.

It really isn't. It's a great phone, but like I said, I was comparing phones and the N95 is probably better. The only thing the iPhone beats it in would be the screen size + touch screen which lets it do better web browsing. For a new customer, the N95 in Canada is $80 opposed to the iPhone's $250. For me, I wasn't a new customer so the iPhone was much cheaper, in stock, and met my web browsing needs and I went with it. I'm fairly happy with it right now, with a few tweaks which can hopefully be done doing firmware updates I'll be even more happy =)

However, I don't see the whole "iPhone is the phone of the future!!! best phone ever!" comments being valid. Especially with Apple stopping some things like applications running in the background and turn by turn GPS from happening.

 

[Terrell]

9x16+4=148

It's intended to have 148 different pieces of software on it.

This is like saying that because a hard drive has a certain amount of bytes on it that it's intended to be used completely to capacity. Just because you CAN doesn't mean much.

 

[NJ Shlice]

:lol The iPhone is so far beyond other mobile devices it's becoming a joke.

It's really true.

I don't even know how other companies can release their phones with their touch interface. It's so terrible. The Voyager is laughable and I was playing with the Samsung Glide the other day and it's touch controls are terrible.

How shitty must you feel when you sit on a cell phone team for a year creating this touch product, and realize you can't even get close to what Apple offers.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

This is like saying that because a hard drive has a certain amount of bytes on it that it's intended to be used completely to capacity.

It's more akin to saying, "Don't blame the user when they use the phone to the level they expect it to perform."

There's 150 slots for apps, to tell people that using 2/3 of that space is "doing it wrong" is silly.

 

[mattiewheels]

Looks like Pandora radio is not long for this world.
http://gizmodo.com/5038049/pandora-internet-radio-cant-take-royalty-rates-will-likely-close-the-box

yeah, i noticed a big wendy's hamburger on my pandora page.

hopefully that'll help them pay the bills, right?

 

[MassiveAttack]

:lol The iPhone is so far beyond other mobile devices it's becoming a joke.

Apparently the "so far beyond" part doesn't apply to battery life. But hey, it's just a battery... that can't be removed.

 

[NJ Shlice]

Apparently the "so far beyond" part doesn't apply to battery life. But hey, it's just a battery.

True. I have to keep 3G and WiFi off all day and i still barely get a day out of the battery.

 

[Terrell]

It's more akin to saying, "Don't blame the user when they use the phone to the level they expect it to perform."

There's 150 slots for apps, to tell people that using 2/3 of that space is "doing it wrong" is silly.

I'm not saying they're "doing it wrong", I'm saying that expecting it to run at peak efficiency when there's that many apps in there? It's still kind of lame, I won't deny it, but it would be unreasonable to expect perfection. For as awesome as the iPhone is, it's still NOT a computer replacement, and shouldn't be demanded to operate at the same level as one.
Once again, as well, just because you CAN do something doesn't necessarily mean that it's intended to be used in that fashion. Just because Apple has 150 slots for apps doesn't mean necessarily that filling the majority of them is "intended use".