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Worm_Buffet
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Bboy AJ said:
If my sarcasm detector is functioning correctly, I would say that you're implying that there in fact has been such an AIM app, which strikes me as technically infeasible. Are you sure?
Perhaps an AIM app that charges you as if every IM was an SMS, but not really what you're saying.
Worm_Buffet
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Yeah ok, but that just means your provider was scamming you as much on data as they are on SMSs. No SMSs are actually being sent.
IM is just data like anything else on the Internet, so unless you're using some special client that goes through the provider, there's no reason to believe you will be charged extra for it.
IM is just data like anything else on the Internet, so unless you're using some special client that goes through the provider, there's no reason to believe you will be charged extra for it.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Some previous phones that didn't have Internet/Data plans had instant messengers that used SMS. It was an alternative way to "chat" when you didn't have a true data connection.
Worm_Buffet
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Kung Fu Jedi said:
Oh, I see. But are we talking AIM here and tunneling that protocol over SMS? Did they encode contact list updates over 160 bytes and charge for those too?
dallow_bg said:
In a sense, yes. But then so is telephone calls.
I meant that IM is 'just data' in the sense that the packet contents are defined by the application, and not by some cell phone standard.
Bboy AJ
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What exactly are you even arguing here? The way providers scam their customers? I agree with you there but that is not why I brought up my point in the first place. My point was is that it's not unreasonable for people to think using an IM application will use their SMS plan rather than data plan as it's occurred in the past before. I don't doubt that some phones still do it.Worm_Buffet said:
Kung Fu Jedi
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Worm_Buffet said:Oh, I see. But are we talking AIM here and tunneling that protocol over SMS? Did they encode contact list updates over 160 bytes and charge for those too?
I've seen IM that was AIM that worked like what I described above, but I believe you had to enter your contacts in manually. No syncing of your AIM contacts as I recall.
Worm_Buffet
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Bboy AJ said:
You said "Every IM you sent/received counted as an SMS" which led me to believe that you thought the IMs were still being sent as 'data', but that the provider would somehow monitor your traffic for IMs and charge you extra for those. I was trying to elucidate the technical difference between that and something proprietary, like the ridiculous AIM over SMS scheme that I see now that you actually were referring to.
Still, imo asking whether a free, public website like Meebo that you can access like any other website would cost you extra, is just silly and did warrant liu kang's loveable patronization.
Kung Fu Jedi
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LOL! Why are we continuing to beat THIS topic to death too. :lol
lionelhutz
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Kung Fu Jedi
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TheExodu5 said:
Isn't this what we've been talking about? Sending them from an IM application instead?
Kung Fu Jedi
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mYm|17| said:
Apple hasn't released the server tech to push IM's yet, so it still disconnects you.
lionelhutz
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I currently have the 3G option turned off and my battery life is decent. I don't do that much web surfing with the phone so it isn't a big deal to not have it enabled. Does 3G only impact the data speeds? Any advantage to using it for phone calls?
centracore
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Supposedly the new PhoneSaber app is on the store now, although I can't seem to find it...
lionelhutz
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LCfiner said:
I can't argue with voice quality. My calls are clear over Edge and people have commented that they can't tell a difference between speakerphone and normal calling. My reason for asking is mostly out of OCD because I have a feature that I'm not using and it sort of bugs me. :lol
I'm also on 2.1
drknite said:
Okay, thanks.
Wow, nothing less than that?
With T-Mobile and the Sidekick, I pay $30 for 300 minutes per month and unlimited weekends I believe. $20 more for unlimited text and all that stuff.
With AT&T and the iPhone, it's more than double that $30 for 150 more minutes? Plus, the extra $20 on top of that for unlimited texting? So, $90+taxes a month?
Wow.
Excuse my ignorance, but is that because AT&T are assholes or does it have to do with the iPhone being 3G?
dallow_bg said:
Before today, I had never heard of AIM apps that used SMS (or charged) to send its messages. Regardless, I said "essentially this" because the comment about meebo was the one that pushed me over the edge with the constant "so wait, I can send instant messages and I don't get charged????" questions that we get every page or so of this thread.
Anyway lets just drop it, it's been beaten to death by now.
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omg rite said:
It has to do with the fact that you're essentially getting 450 minutes for $40, unlimited data usage for $30, and then texting and crap for $20. It's the data that adds so much to the price.
The Take Out Bandit
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Crashfari is fucking awful.
Someone ought to sue Apple for this bullshit. I absolutely cannot post shit to GAF from that POS phone. Three sentences max, and then Crashfari shits on itself like some shitty Microsoft application losing all my hen-pecking.
I really want to throw this fucking thing into a wall.
It's bad enough I can't natively disable images and other functions of the web, but the god damn thing isn't even stable.
Come on Apple, get your fucking shit together. If this is supposed to be an exceptional smart phone, then it's got a lot in common with being an exceptional special ed. student. >:|
Someone ought to sue Apple for this bullshit. I absolutely cannot post shit to GAF from that POS phone. Three sentences max, and then Crashfari shits on itself like some shitty Microsoft application losing all my hen-pecking.
I really want to throw this fucking thing into a wall.
It's bad enough I can't natively disable images and other functions of the web, but the god damn thing isn't even stable.
Come on Apple, get your fucking shit together. If this is supposed to be an exceptional smart phone, then it's got a lot in common with being an exceptional special ed. student. >:|
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You should exchange your phone for a new one then.
That's not supposed to happen.
That's not supposed to happen.
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