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[Costanza]

How many of you have dead pixels on your iPhone? I've got one stuck pixel and another dead pixel, and I'm thinking about returning it...but I don't want another PSP situation where virtually every PSP had dead pixels.

Huh? I thought dead pixels only happened on LCD screens.

 

[Chrono]

Huh? I thought dead pixels only happened on LCD screens.

iphone uses an LCD screen...

 

[yayaba]

Shit, I hate living on the West coast. I called every AT&T store in the Sacramento area today and they were ALL sold out. The one Apple store in the area is too which is a given.

Looks like if I really want one I'll have to drive to SF to get it but that's not really worth it... that's a 300 mile round trip. Ugh.

 

[commish]

sorry, should have clarified: exchange it. i won't be returning it. i don't think they charge a restocking fee for defective units.

Perhaps I should have clarified myself Even if you just want to exchange it, they'll charge you. My friend's iphone has a bum battery, but the apple store is saying that he has to pay 10%. I'd raise hell before I paid that personally.

 

[Snah]

uhm, are you sure? I've read reports on people exchanging their iphones with no restocking fee if the unit is defective.

 

[commish]

uhm, are you sure? I've read reports on people exchanging their iphones with no restocking fee is the unit is defective.

All I know is what the Apple store told him. If you have a link to these reports, I'd appreciate it. I think it's BS that apple would do that when it's not his fault. Maybe it's the nature of the defect.

 

[LiveWire]

Yea, I have one tiny dead pixel that I didn't notice at first. Doesn't bother me, but if I see another one or two pop up as the unit grows older I'll take it back for exchange. With my PSP I saw the dead pixel immediately, the fact that I didn't see it immediately on the iPhone makes me wonder if it is vulnerable to dead pixels appearing over the life of the unit (which never happened with my PSP).

 

[Sean]

I have one tiny dead (stuck?) pixel in the far left side of the screen, it doesn't really bother me cause I almost never see it - only when viewing certain photos (and even then it's really hard to see that you have to specifically look for it).

I wonder if the upcoming iPhone protection plan/applecare thing would handle that.

 

[sonycowboy]

Apple seems to have pretty much doubled everybody's expectations (of which there were varying expectations and estimates).

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/07/02/iphoneestimates/index.php

iPhone sales estimates as high as 700,000
By Jim Dalrymple

It will be a while before the official numbers come in, but some Wall Street analysts say that Apple might have sold as many as 700,000 iPhones over the device’s opening weekend.

That figure comes from Goldman Sachs analyst David Bailey, who had projected 350,000 units sold prior to Friday’s launch.

Other analysts also projected robust sales for the weekend. Piper Jaffray’s Gene Munster put sales at about 500,000 units, more than double the 200,000 he forecast before the iPhone went on sale.

“Apple has really met expectations and delivered the product they promised to deliver,” said Michael Gartenberg, vice president and research director at JupiterResearch. “If the initial forecasts of sales are correct they have blown away everyone's expectations, except perhaps their own.”

Not every analyst saw the weekend as a success. JP Morgan analyst Bill Shope pegged sales at approximately 312,000 for the weekend and said in a note to clients that demand may have been a bit disappointing.

It’s clear that the iPhone generated a lot of interest on Friday’s launch day. Some shoppers reported delays in activation, which some analysts attributed to high volume; AT&T said most issues have been resolved.

Approximately two percent of users have reportedly been affected by activation issues. Analysts don’t see the problems over the first couple of days affecting the iPhone over the long term.

“This is a new process, but most of it was you had 500,000 people trying to activate their iPhones over one weekend,” said Gartenberg. “There is a certain frustration when you spend $600 for a device and want use it right away, but it’s not something that’s going to happen all the time.̵

It’s not unprecedented for high digital sales to slow down service. Last December, busy holiday sales overwhelmed the iTunes Store as shoppers redeemed their digital gift certificates.

After using the device for the weekend and weighing the affects of the AT&T activation issues, analysts believe the iPhone itself and the launch events that took place around the country have been successful.

’It’s hard to sell 50,000 units let alone 500,000—that means they really hit the consumer consciousness,” said Gartenberg.

“Clearly, the launch was executed very well,” said Ross Rubin, director of industry analysis at The NPD Group. “The iPhone design reflects the level of flexibility that lies ahead for the industry.”

 

[cvxfreak]

Used my iPhone in NYC today. Ran out of battery after about 13 hours of iPod, Safari, Mail and SMS use.

Occasionally, the iPhone returns to the main menu while using Safari or the iPod -- this indicates a crash, right?

 

[GeMiNii]

Battery life with WiFi and Bluetooth enabled makes baby jesus cry. And the reception on bluetooth headsets seems to be limited to like 2 feet before it turns to crap!

 

[Robobandit]

Used my iPhone in NYC today. Ran out of battery after about 13 hours of iPod, Safari, Mail and SMS use.

Occasionally, the iPhone returns to the main menu while using Safari or the iPod -- this indicates a crash, right?

Yep. Thankfully it doesn't happen very often.

and Geminii, how long did your battery last with bluetooth and wifi going, and what were you doing with the phone?

I get good life out of mine from ipod use, video, web surfing, youtubing and a bit of calling. By the way, I'm sure most of you figured this out, but there is a separate volume for the call speaker that can only be adjusted when you're on a call, so if you're finding folks hard to hear or if they are having trouble hearing you, turn it up using the rocker on the side.

Low voice volume was my only complaint about the hardware, and that turned out to be my error, so i'm extremely happy with it at this point.

 

[monchi-kun]

posting from iphone

So awesome

 

[Flo_Evans]

seems to be paired with the phone though. Mine would not work with any other card I had. The wifi, iPod, youtube and maps all worked without a sim card inserted however.

 

[clav]

Will buy the successors to the iphone.

Doesn't seem like a good time to buy one now unless you just want to impress people that you paid $500 for something that costs somewhere $250 to make.

 

[yayaba]

Will buy the successors to the iphone.

Doesn't seem like a good time to buy one now unless you just want to impress people that you paid $500 for something that costs somewhere $250 to make.

You can't ignore the R&D costs that went into this. Otherwise, the people who made the damn thing wouldn't be paid a cent.

 

[Flo_Evans]

Will it be more impressive when it cost $100 to make and cost $300 :lol

 

[Fletcher]

Will it be more impressive when it cost $100 to make and cost $300 :lol

More impressive? Probably not, but a device actually worth the money?Yeah. Although, I'd say an Iphone running on a faster network, a much larger hard drive space, and a lot of the kinks worked out might actually be more impressive.

To note: I am very intrigued with the Iphone, but am against early adopting Apple products after getting screwed buying the 1st generation Ipod for $500. Pass until it's better.

 

[Razorwind]

Likewise, will wait for Iphone 3...When they actually allow u to sms, change batteries and have a micro SD adaptor. Iphone 2 most probably will be a smaller version that is downsized and cheaper. *Wild Predictions* U heard it here first =p

 

[Patrick Bateman]

When they actually allow u to sms

What? Does this mean I can't write SMS with the iPhone?

 

[Escape Goat]

they were talking about this on the radio the other day. for the $600 one you'll end up paying $2000 bucks for it over the course of 2 years. Thats retarded. :lol But who am I to tell people what to buy with their money.

 

[Costanza]

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/07/02/tada-the-6th-gen-contract-free-wifi-enabled-ipod/

Oh man, what a day. Earlier today, I got my prepaid iPhone activated after a long struggle, which you can read about here, along with an easy solution. After all that, what time was it? Time To Hack!

So what did I discover? I found that your activated iPhone is a lot more flexible and powerful than AT&T and Apple admit. Pop out the SIM or put an inactive SIM and your iPhone works pretty much like a contract-free WiFi-enabled 6th Generation iPod. The WiFi means you can do Mail and Safari without a phone connection.

For your delectation, here's the stuff that I did and the results I discovered. I am still working on writing all this up nicely but I thought I'd rather share sooner than later.

Removed SIM and replaced it with an invalid, unactivated, no-account SIM. Still works as 6G WiFi iPod. Still Synced properly to iTunes. Tried placing call. It failed (as expected).

Removed SIM entirely. It complains but works at 6G WiFi iPod. Tried placing call. "No SIM card installed". Failed. Connected to iTunes. Synced without any problems I could detect. WiFi fine.

Removed activated SIM and placed into a cheap disposable AT&T cell phone. Worked fine. Was able to place calls. Good way to save your iPhone from danger on ski or bike trips.

Placed SIM from cheap disposable AT&T Pay as You Go phone into iPhone. Call failed. WiFi fine.

And remember: you still have to fund the phone and for those of you who are our friends across the border, I'm not sure how a Canadian credit card will play on the AT&T GoPhone funding site.

Conclusions: Buy the iPhone using prepaid. Activate. Cancel. Enjoy.

Want me to test something out? Let me know in the comments.

 

[shantyman]

Uhhh... What? A single iTunes movie (The Incredibles, 1 hour 55 minutes long) takes up about 1.3 GB on my iPhone. The phone's OS and file system eat up about 700MB. There's half your memory gone. That leaves room for maybe 500 songs, with nothing at all left for photos, emails, calendar data, browser cookies and other miscellany. Or cut your music selection down further and give yourself a little breathing room for the rest of the phone's functionality. A second movie or even a TV episode would be out of the question.

I hate to be anal, but you said Memory, not storage. Blame my IT background.

 

[shantyman]

Used my iPhone in NYC today. Ran out of battery after about 13 hours of iPod, Safari, Mail and SMS use.

Occasionally, the iPhone returns to the main menu while using Safari or the iPod -- this indicates a crash, right?

How in the hell? Mine got 4 hours of "real use" and a day and 8 hours in standby before it had to be charged. If I tried to use it for 13 hours straight it would have died.

I'm convinced I have a bad battery.

 

[Shogmaster]

How in the hell? Mine got 4 hours of "real use" and a day and 8 hours in standby before it had to be charged. If I tried to use it for 13 hours straight it would have died.

I'm convinced I have a bad battery.

Return it and see if the replacement is any better. I'm curious too.

 

[Evlar]

they were talking about this on the radio the other day. for the $600 one you'll end up paying $2000 bucks for it over the course of 2 years. Thats retarded. :lol But who am I to tell people what to buy with their money.

Incorrect. You won't be paying $600 for the iPhone. You'll be paying $600 for the iPhone and two years' voice and data mobile service.

Or, to look at it another way, the iPhone is $80 a month mobile phone service + a free phone.

 

[kaching]

Occasionally, the iPhone returns to the main menu while using Safari or the iPod -- this indicates a crash, right?

Hmm, that's basically the same thing that kept happening to me when I tested on out at the store on Sunday. I kept trying to load the nytimes.com homepage and navigating around that but the iPhone kept dropping back to its home screen. I thought I met have accidentally hit the home button but I was almost sure I hadn't. The iPhone crashed several times on the nytimes page this way - just trying to scroll, zoom, etc.

 

[shantyman]

Return it and see if the replacement is any better. I'm curious too.

I'm going to log usage for a month or so and take it back if necessary.

 

[mrklaw]

somebody fly to europe and try it out. I'm curious if roaming works over here

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

The unpaid/SIM shenannigans makes me wonder if we'll see people figuring out how to unlock these babies before long. Unlocking phones used to be pretty easy, but it seems they've gotten trickier.

 

[Brandon F]

Got my iPhone last night after work at the Chicago Apple Store on Michigan Ave. It was a mobhouse..... I wanted to snap a photo of the several iphone display tables and the crazy lines forming just to fondle a display unit...and then snap the barren desolate ipod table that got pushed to the back like a 360 rack in Akihabara. Left 4 Dead.

Lucked out somewhat, ended up getting the very last 8gb available, and the line formed behind me at the register was at least a dozen thick and growing. Supposedly a truck was arriving in less than two hours with more to sell though.

Spent at least 4 hours last night fiddling with my wifi and router just to get the wifi setup working properly. My PS3, 360, DS, PSP, PC, etc... all recognized and ran flawlessly in minutes. My iPhone however, while syncing with my router just fine with full bars, kept defaulting back to Edge the moment I loaded anything internet related.

Apparently I had to switch my iphone to recognize the WEP password in 'Hex' form(an option I didn't even know existed initially over default vanilla WEP), but even then anything I used in Wifi mode would return error messages complaining of 'no server found'. After reams of google and forum browsing, I discovered that I had to alter the DNS values on my iphone so that my router's IP isn't listed in that string, but two other strange IP listings remained. Once I did that it's been smooth sailing...and that was 3am.

:sigh: So tired now.

Neat toy though.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

they were talking about this on the radio the other day. for the $600 one you'll end up paying $2000 bucks for it over the course of 2 years. Thats retarded. :lol But who am I to tell people what to buy with their money.

Yes, because no other phone out there requires you to have a service plan. iPhone is unique in this to be sure.

 

[SuperPac]

Finally picked one up last night. It's awesome. Couple little things need tweaking but otherwise it's a really fantastic device.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Finally picked one up last night. It's awesome. Couple little things need tweaking but otherwise it's a really fantastic device.

Agreed. It's nearly perfect with a few odd things. For instance, I'm at the office right now, and have it configured to use the WiFi network here, but for some reason it's on EDGE rather than WiFi, even though it sees the WiFi router, connects to. Not sure why, and I can't find a way to force it to use the WiFi connection.

 

[GeMiNii]

Finally picked one up last night. It's awesome. Couple little things need tweaking but otherwise it's a really fantastic device.

If you could theoretically tweak things, what would they be? Anything at all except enabling 3G or unlocking the phone.

 

[dskillzhtown]

they were talking about this on the radio the other day. for the $600 one you'll end up paying $2000 bucks for it over the course of 2 years. Thats retarded. :lol But who am I to tell people what to buy with their money.

Well, you have to pay for a service plan regardless what phone you have. There are monthly charges even with home phones, so what is the problem? How is the iPhone so different? Seriously, what is the big deal about a service plan?

 

[SuperPac]

If you could theoretically tweak things, what would they be? Anything at all except enabling 3G or unlocking the phone.

I wish it would carry over my junk filtering preferences from the Mac's Mail.app, for instance. Also, someone sent me a photo to use as their ringer (taken with their iPhone) but I can't view that picture separately or set it as a ringer image because it was e-mailed...I have to pull it off my e-mail and copy it into iPhoto and re-sync with the phone... you know, little things.

And the Engadget review that talks about how you can accidentally add things (misspelled words, for instance) to the iPhone's dictionary...that's not that great. :'(

But overall, very happy.

 

[aparisi2274]

hey quick question... the iphone will sync up with outlook correct? So if I have a road runner or verizon fios e-mail account, I could get them on the iphone??

 

[LPJ24]

Originally Posted by Teh Hamburglar:
they were talking about this on the radio the other day. for the $600 one you'll end up paying $2000 bucks for it over the course of 2 years. Thats retarded. But who am I to tell people what to buy with their money.

Oh shoot, you know what? You're right. I'm going to move out of my apartment and into a cardboard box because over the next 2 years im going to have to pay $24,000 in order to stay there. Thank you sir for enlightening me.

 

[Brandon F]

Agreed. It's nearly perfect with a few odd things. For instance, I'm at the office right now, and have it configured to use the WiFi network here, but for some reason it's on EDGE rather than WiFi, even though it sees the WiFi router, connects to. Not sure why, and I can't find a way to force it to use the WiFi connection.

Having the same problem here at work. It sees a free wifi spot with good signal, yet that Blue 'E' of lameness is all it wants ot use for anything. Settings confirm Wifi is on the up and up, yet...

:sigh:

 

[ckohler]

hey quick question... the iphone will sync up with outlook correct? So if I have a road runner or verizon fios e-mail account, I could get them on the iphone??

Email comes in basically four types:

* POP3
* IMAP
* Exchange
* Web Only

Most types of email systems are POP3 or IMAP. Even big web based systems like Gmail and Yahoo offer POP3 and IMAP options. Hotmail is an example of a pure web only system.

Now, iPhone natively supports both POP3 and IMAP. So as long as your Road Runner and/or Verizon email services do one of these two it will work. I would think they do. Most ISPs offer one or both of these two.

 

[Piper Az]

July 3, 2007
Apple iPhone Margins 55 Pct, Shares Rise: ISuppli
By REUTERS
Filed at 11:34 a.m. ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The most expensive iPhone model could deliver profit margins of more than 55 percent for Apple Inc. <AAPL.O>, according to iSuppli, which examined the components of the widely anticipated device.

Apple shares rose after the research firm said hardware and manufacturing cost $265.83 or almost 45 percent of the $600 iPhone model, which has eight gigabytes of storage.

In January, iSuppli, which does not include costs for royalties and logistics, said it had estimated a $264.85 hardware and manufacturing cost for the eight-gigabyte device.

Apple shares rose $4.42 or almost 4 percent to $125.68 on Nasdaq after the news. Shares of AT&T Inc. <T.N>, the exclusive U.S. service provider for the phone, were down 35 cents at $41.50 on the New York Stock Exchange.

wow

 

[GeMiNii]

I wish it would carry over my junk filtering preferences from the Mac's Mail.app, for instance. Also, someone sent me a photo to use as their ringer (taken with their iPhone) but I can't view that picture separately or set it as a ringer image because it was e-mailed...I have to pull it off my e-mail and copy it into iPhoto and re-sync with the phone... you know, little things.

And the Engadget review that talks about how you can accidentally add things (misspelled words, for instance) to the iPhone's dictionary...that's not that great. :'(

But overall, very happy.

Awesome feedback, anymore suggestions?

 

[Zombie James]

wow

So basically a pat on the back for ripping off consumers.

 

[kaching]

Has there been any indication/rumors about when the first firmware update might happen and what it might inclued?

 

[SuperPac]

So basically a pat on the back for ripping off consumers.

What normal products aren't sold for more than they cost to make? It's a matter of whether you as a consumer deem it worthy of the asking price.

 

[Shanks]

So basically a pat on the back for ripping off consumers.

While I do think the price is heavy and don't see myself buying one soon if ever, that doesn't include manufacturing, advertising, etc..

 

[Zombie James]

What normal products aren't sold for more than they cost to make? It's a matter of whether you as a consumer deem it worthy of the asking price.

No one's saying they can't make a profit, but what they're raking in with the iPhone is just obscene imho.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Having the same problem here at work. It sees a free wifi spot with good signal, yet that Blue 'E' of lameness is all it wants ot use for anything. Settings confirm Wifi is on the up and up, yet...

:sigh:

I figured mine problem out. I was having an IP conflict with another device, despite the fact that both were set to DHCP. Seems like it's a router issue more than anything else, as I was able to connect to an "open" router without any issues. I've got it working now though.

Has there been any indication/rumors about when the first firmware update might happen and what it might inclued?

It's been out for 4 days. It's a little early to start talking about firmware updates just yet. You're likely to see iTunes updates first to support more features. Some people poking around in the code have seen evidence of ringtone options, which we all knew, the ability to use the iPhone as storage device, and updates that may include the ability to use it to record voice.

And for those complaining about the price, the $265 cost is for the parts only. It doesn't include software development, R&D on the interface and multitouch screen, advertising, manufacturing, and a lot more. Yes, Apple and AT&T are making a profit, big surprise, but it's not as big of a gouge has some are saying.

 

[mashoutposse]

And for those complaining about the price, the $265 cost is for the parts only. It doesn't include software development, R&D on the interface and multitouch screen, advertising, manufacturing, and a lot more. Yes, Apple and AT&T are making a profit, big surprise, but it's not as big of a gouge has some are saying.

If anyone should complain, it should be the Nokia N95 owners who paid ~$750 for a plastic, non-touchscreen, 160MB device with middling build quality and software no different from the rest of the line.

A $600 iPhone with glass and metal all over, multitouch screen, and 8GB internal is a steal in comparison.