Iran suspends uranium enrichment

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The sanctions are unjustified and an act of war . They are crippling all Iranians who are not even breaking any international law by enriching uranium to 20% ,it's their right as signatures of the NPT.
 
goomba said:
The sanctions are unjustified and an act of war . They are crippling all Iranians who are not even breaking any international law by enriching uranium to 20% ,it's their right as signatures of the NPT.
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I think you're a bit quick in giving Iran the benefit of the doubt. There are more factors to consider, such as remarks from Ahmadinejad as well as Iran's refusal to let inspectors verify that their intentions with enrichment are peaceful. Regardless of what Iran's real intentions are though, these sanctions may prevent a war between Iran and Israel.
 
Piggus said:
I think you're a bit quick in giving Iran the benefit of the doubt. There are more factors to consider, such as remarks from Ahmadinejad as well as Iran's refusal to let inspectors verify that their intentions with enrichment are peaceful. Regardless of what Iran's real intentions are though, these sanctions may prevent a war between Iran and Israel.
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Didn't they demand access to military bases? I kinda understand if they weren't too happy to let inspectors into them. As for remarks against Israel they are awful indeed but you have to remeber Israel's close allie has listed them as axis evil and has made constant remarks that they have to be destroyed.
 
Griffin said:
Fars News Agency denied. But it could very well mean that this was meant to be behind the curtains.
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I`m hoping it`s the latter indeed .
Piggus said:
I think you're a bit quick in giving Iran the benefit of the doubt. There are more factors to consider, such as remarks from Ahmadinejad as well as Iran's refusal to let inspectors verify that their intentions with enrichment are peaceful. Regardless of what Iran's real intentions are though, these sanctions may prevent a war between Iran and Israel.
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While it`s true that iran hans`t been completely forthcomming, after what happened to Iraq and after inspectors found nothing there, I don`t see how anyone would feel comfortable in iran`s situation. Still though, iran should have given obama the benefit of the doubt.
 
Their claims are meaningless. It's inspectors on the ground that are needed for action.

Obviously and poorly timed to influence US election.
 
goomba said:
The sanctions are unjustified and an act of war . They are crippling all Iranians who are not even breaking any international law by enriching uranium to 20% ,it's their right as signatures of the NPT.
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If Iran was a model citizen you would have a point. They have done everything possible to make sure no one trusts them.
 
CiSTM said:
Didn't they demand access to military bases? I kinda understand if they weren't too happy to let inspectors into them. As for remarks against Israel they are awful indeed but you have to remeber Israel's close allie has listed them as axis evil and has made constant remarks that they have to be destroyed.
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Wait, the US has made repeated claims that Iran has to be destroyed? Can you source this?
 
CyclopsRock said:
Wait, the US has made repeated claims that Iran has to be destroyed? Can you source this?
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I'll be willing to bet most of the claims came from the Republican party. I recall hearing that Romney advocated war with Iran at one point, too, but don't quote me on that.
 
I don't really see many sources reporting on this, but the sources that have reported it a few days ago. Apparently the Israelis had responded and/or confirmed the news. We really need to hear more about this.
 
Haven't they said this before?

Either way, this is likely good news. Seeing what the sanctions did to their economy, I doubt they're bluffing.
 
Obviously Iran saw the writing on the wall as Romney leading in every state and national poll, and decided to give up everything so Romney won't kill them.
 
goomba said:
The sanctions are unjustified and an act of war . They are crippling all Iranians who are not even breaking any international law by enriching uranium to 20% ,it's their right as signatures of the NPT.
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Sanctions are not an act of war. Sanctions are just one or more countries saying to another "Hey, we're not going to trade with you". What you're thinking of is a blockade, which is an act of war.

wikipedia article said:
A blockade should not be confused with an embargo or sanctions, which are legal barriers to trade, and is distinct from a siege in that a blockade is usually directed at an entire country or region, rather than a fortress or city.
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The sanctions would only slow them down a little.
I remember when my country (India) did it's first nuclear test in 1974, nothing really happened. But when they did the 2nd test (5 detonations) in the late 90s (the American intelligence completely failed to get even a hint about all this), they faced several sanctions.
 
Phoenician_Viking said:
Sanctions are designed to cripple economies. It´s defacto act of war by legal means.
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Still not a declaration of war, de facto or otherwise. That's just ridiculous.

Country A: We think you're flooding our market with cheap crap, so we're putting sanctions on your exports to our country.
Country B: FIRE MISSILES!

Power plays between countries =\= acts of war
 
Piano said:
No, it's not an act of war.
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According to the UN, sanctions on Iraq in the 1990s resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. Not an act of war?

As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
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http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
 
For all the flack that I give Obama for his disastrous internal policies, his supremacy over Republicans in all things realated to foreign affairs is impossible to deny.
 
speculawyer said:
We need a grand bargain with Iran.

Get Iran to
-Stop high-grade enrichment
-Allow inspections
-Have them reactor grade uranium from Russia under a monitored program

Have the rest of the world
-Get rid of the oil sanctions
-Have the US unfreeze some assets

There is just no need for the current cold war with them. I would be nice if we could agree to end it in a way where everyone benefits.
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They're working on just that. Add to the conditions:

-will stop efforts for a regime change.
 
goomba said:
According to the UN, sanctions on Iraq in the 1990s resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. Not an act of war?



http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
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No, they're economic sanctions. Economic sanctions which may have awful consequences.

Sickboy007 said:
They're working on just that. Add to the conditions:

-will stop efforts for a regime change.
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Regime change would be amazing for Iran...as long as it happens from within.
It'll happen eventually.
 
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