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Iriver owns the Ipod in every way imaginable
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RevenantKioku
PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Well in the iPod's defense, that is pretty fugly.
*shrug* may be better otherwise, but I'm happy with my iPod
*shrug* may be better otherwise, but I'm happy with my iPod
enjoy bell woods
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Me.demon said:
demon said:
iPod is an icon. iRiver is not. To be honest most people won't even consider iRiver simply because it is not iPod. It's sexy not just you to look at, but to be seen with as well . It isn't just that the iPod is sexier, but people feel an iPod make them look sexier as well. And that is worth the price for most people. It's not just the actual values, which iPod has many, but also the associated values that comes with it.
When I first got the first gen iPod, there was some exclusivity attached with it, but I guess so many people has one nowadays people look to iRiver and such alternatives for that same exclusivity. Perfect timing for Apple for release the U2 iPod IMO.
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
No iPod = no iTunes Music Store. It's still the best online music store with by far the largest catalog, and its seamless integration into iTunes is a big plus.
And the iPod Photo is pretty cool, too. Plus, there's a HUGE amount of accessories available for iPod from a large number of manufacturers, whereas your choices are a bit more limited for competing models.
And the iPod Photo is pretty cool, too. Plus, there's a HUGE amount of accessories available for iPod from a large number of manufacturers, whereas your choices are a bit more limited for competing models.
Winged Creature
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Iriver does own Ipod
it just has so much more then then the ipod, and even if ur not gonna use it, its still there, your getting so much more
it just has so much more then then the ipod, and even if ur not gonna use it, its still there, your getting so much more
demon said:
In the same vein, people spend more time driving their cars than looking at them. And yet, people buy cars based largely on looks. What's the difference? Or, do you drive an ugly piece-of-shit just because it's reliable and get's good gas mileage?
If i were looking at a digital music player and had to choose between the iRiver and the iPod, i'd go with iRiver, no contest. It's simply more bang for your buck. Anyone who looks at the features list can see that. The iPod wins in aesthetics, but considering i'd be keeping it in my pocket most of the time (thanks to the included LCD remote), it's even less of an issue.
iTunes is a nice idea, but frankly i don't see a point in buying inferior quality secured digital music for a few dollars cheaper than buying a CD i can do what i want with.
iTunes is a nice idea, but frankly i don't see a point in buying inferior quality secured digital music for a few dollars cheaper than buying a CD i can do what i want with.
Cars are more frequently in plain view plus they're simply bigger. Your neighbor's not going to notice you've got some ugly ass MP3 player in your hand when you unlock your door, but they'll notice your ugly ass car.Minotauro said:
demon said:
So? If I'm buying something based upon looks, I really couldn't care less what others think. I make my purchase based upon what I think looks appealing.
Just saying, people buy all kinds of shit (clothes, houses, purses, wallets, etc, etc) based upon outward appearance. Why should mp3 players be any different?
Plus, it's not just the shell of the iPod that's visually appealing. Every other mp3 player I've ever handled has felt clunky and awkward in comparison.
Cerebral Palsy
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*shrug* I'm completely happy with my iPod. It has been great. If I ever replace it it'll be with another iPod.
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
iapetus said:
Touche'. To be a little clearer -- if you have a digital music player OTHER than an iPod, you can't listen to music purchased from the iTunes Music Store on it (at least not without converting the music file to a non-DRM'd format)
Ford Prefect
GAAAAAAAAY
The only advantages that the iPod has over the iRiver is that control is slightly more intuitive, and it can do on-the-fly playlists. Everything else- battery life, capabilities (FM radio, line-in/optical-in recording, built-in mic, functions as external hard drive, etc.), and price- sets the iRiver far ahead of the iPod in terms of quality.
I love my iRiver
I love my iRiver
Ninja Scooter
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Ipod does exactly what i wanted it to do. Easy to throw all my CD/mp3 collection on the thing, and I actually like using ITunes. The fact that it looks cool is just a bonus. Personally, i could give two shits about having a mic/recorder, an FM tuner, being able to use it as a HD, or having my music player be "hackable". The ipod's ease of use trumps all that for me.
brooklyngooner
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I find this thread to be most helpful, as I'm about to buy one of the two. Please continue jabbing at one another.
Living and working in NYC, iPods are EVERYWHERE. White headphones cords sticking out of trendy coats.
Living and working in NYC, iPods are EVERYWHERE. White headphones cords sticking out of trendy coats.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
in ipods defense.. you can get it for free
MrPing1000
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rio karma 4 teh win
I agree, the iPod is a great looking player and, at least for me, aesthetics DO matter when it comes to my technotoys. Technology should be as cool looking as it is functional. Granted, people can argue Apple sometimes has more of the former than later (and I'd be inclined to agree), but there's still 'something' about Apple's hardware that I like. Even so, I like my Nomad Zen Xtra. It was 200 bucks, holds 30GBs of data/MP3s/WMA/whatever, is small enough and still looks nice to me. Yeah, it's not as sleek as an iPod, but it's a worthwhile compromise for the price and the Nomads have infamously high quality sound output, and since I frequently hook mine up to the AUX input on my car's Clarion, it's important to me.
iPod will only get "owned" when people stop using the term "iPod" as a generic noun. "iPod" is virtually synonymous with "portable music player" for a shitload of people, and advertising your own product as "better/bigger/cheaper than an iPod" only reinforces the fact that iPod is cleaning up with marketshare AND mindshare.
Seriously -- it's like making a cola drink which isn't Coke.
Seriously -- it's like making a cola drink which isn't Coke.
Echoes of Pink
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I've had my iriver for a couple of months now and I've fallen in love with it. Navigating on it isn't hard at all. My file tree is easy to navigate. Its just CD's>Artist>Album>Song. Four button presses and a little scrolling and I'm listening to music. I don't find it much all that different from an ipod except for the fact there isn't a scroll wheel. The drag and drop hard drive nature of it is great too. I used my iRiver to transport a large powerpoint to a class. Also I love the choice of codecs. I ripped everything I own to 224 ogg VBR. I have 2400 songs on it with almost 5.5 gigs left out of 20. I can't complain on the battery life. I'm getting like 10 and a half hours out of it and could be getting more if I used constant bitrate and 128 kbps but I like better sound quality. All for $290 from new egg.
EDIT: I forgot to mention the included leather case and remote.
If you want cons I guess you could say the pack in headphones suck. I didn't even try them myself but that always seems to be the case. I just bought some sony intra aural ones for like 35 bucks and I think they are amazing. People will ask you want it is and the only way to explain it to them is to say its like an ipod to which most will respond that its a knock off.
EDIT: I forgot to mention the included leather case and remote.
If you want cons I guess you could say the pack in headphones suck. I didn't even try them myself but that always seems to be the case. I just bought some sony intra aural ones for like 35 bucks and I think they are amazing. People will ask you want it is and the only way to explain it to them is to say its like an ipod to which most will respond that its a knock off.
Ford Prefect said:The only advantages that the iPod has over the iRiver is that control is slightly more intuitive, and it can do on-the-fly playlists. Everything else- battery life, capabilities (FM radio, line-in/optical-in recording, built-in mic, functions as external hard drive, etc.), and price- sets the iRiver far ahead of the iPod in terms of quality.
I love my iRiver
The iRiver can't do on the fly playlists?
Even my ancient Nomad Jukebox can do that. I thought it was ridiculous that it took like two generations of iPods before they had the feature - are most HDD mp3 players missing this? I'm looking to buy a new player and I do use this feature fairly often...
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Both play MP3s, right? Both are supposed to be portable, right? Their ideal function is to play music and not annoy you when it's in your pocket. This is why the iPod wins: it plays MP3s and is flawlessly shaped -- and that's all I need out of my MP3 player. The iRiver feels like a brick.
iPod is one of the few things around that really lives up to the hype.
Looks good, does what it's meant to, and does it as simply as you could want. The interface and touch-wheel work great, especially the click-wheel of the 4th gen ones. Over the years I've been through everything from Walkmans, to Mini-Disc, to flash mp3-players, and you'd have to pry my iPod from my dead hand.
Looks good, does what it's meant to, and does it as simply as you could want. The interface and touch-wheel work great, especially the click-wheel of the 4th gen ones. Over the years I've been through everything from Walkmans, to Mini-Disc, to flash mp3-players, and you'd have to pry my iPod from my dead hand.
Freestyler
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I just love reading these threads when some Iriver (and what the hell is a river anyhoo, I fail to see the connection between music and rivers? Maybe I'm missing something) fanboy goes on a rampage to try and make himself feel better for buying an inferior product. All I have to do is go to Apple.com/hotnews/ and learn that iPod market share is over 90% for hard-drive MP3 players, and that nothing short of a new Apple non-iPod player will trump that. Bliss.
Freestyler
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Oh god, if there's one thing I hate it's the mentality that once something is so widespread and popular, it has to be shit, and it's not worth buying. Why the fuck did it get so popular and widespread if it's so shitty!?
Same goes for music. Like the people who are obsessed with some 'underground' band for years - and then they release the exact same material commerically, with a big label, and they hit the charts, and all of a sudden all the hardcore fans are 'oh my god I hate that song now, because it's #1 on MTV!'. I will kill all these people some day.
Same goes for music. Like the people who are obsessed with some 'underground' band for years - and then they release the exact same material commerically, with a big label, and they hit the charts, and all of a sudden all the hardcore fans are 'oh my god I hate that song now, because it's #1 on MTV!'. I will kill all these people some day.
mrkapawutzis
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Except in the most important way in the eyes of corporate america, sales figures.
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