if u have to actually SEARCH and do actual work to find good music then that means the genre is dead
No, it means monoculture is dead, radio is dead, MTV is dead, the way you grew up is dead.
That is a horrible argument. I can list quite a few popular genres of music that match your exact criteria. Techno, Rock, Pop, R&B, Jazz, Metal, Latin music, etc, etc.
Really? I agree on the lyrics nonsense; not that any of it is that "deep".. it's mostly corny attempts at being deep.
Music production has taken a hit in every genre including rap. The music industry lost crazy money over the years, you think the quality of the output is going to stay the same or improve with less revenue, that doesn't happen in field.
I would have agreed with you about 5-8 years ago.
Do you mean like the mixing and stuff?
From top to tail, like I said the industry was not making the same amount of money for a long time. In no field do you have less money coming in and better product coming out, I don't care who's getting the money. Music quality has suffered across the board from writing to production to engineering.
You're brushing some broad strokes here. Which artists have you been listening to/heard music from recently?
You gotta work on that myopia brother
I just need a bit more context as to your main talking point. I'm trying to understand your point of view. So far what you've said and repeated to me and
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is that the music industry has lost money and this has had an effect on production. If you could expand on how, I could potentially understand better. I hope you're cool with that, as I'm not the type of person to simply nod my head in agreement without knowing exactly what the other person meant.
This is the underlying point for me, too.
Companies are paying a lot more green musicians, engineers, producers and writers because it's cheaper. Music is now a low investment , low return situation for both the company and the consumer.I just need a bit more context as to your main talking point. I'm trying to understand your point of view. So far what you've said and repeated to me and
Remember when rappers actually had talent?
I can actually listen to this and admit that I probably couldn't write anything better
which is the opposite thought I have when listening to 99 percent of modern rap/crap
You've repeated the same point again with slightly more details. So, I'll let you know that I get what you're saying. The reason I'm not fully agreeing with you is because the modern music I listen to has good production and engineering. I know that there exists songs with bad production and bad engineering, but 9 times out of 10 that stuff usually comes from soundcloud, which exists for the newbies and uneducated. That's why I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about specifically. If you have specific examples or maybe a youtube video explaining your point of view, I'm all eyes and ears.
The only three people that I can confidently say have utilized autotune to the best degree are Kanye West, Travis Scott, and T-pain. Nearly everyone else uses it like a crutch instead of a tool.
Not quite, my parents were in the music industry at a certain point, made singles, sessioned with some known bands. I've seen what goes into making a record, it is a lot. I'm not knocking you for liking new music, but music on the whole is not being made as well as it used to.
It's not exactly a viewpoint, it's a fact.The industry has less money to invest into making music, and they understand that, so they adjust accordingly.
It's not worth getting frustrated over this, so I'll take your post as 'I'm not allowed to say why' and keep it moving/end the convo here. Thank you for your bit of information though.
When I literally cannot understand what a rapper is saying I'm out. I get/love the artistry of mixing words/sounds/pronunciations and all that awesome skill rappers have to make things work. To me mumble rap goes beyond that into just plain lazy shit that is indecipherable, there's a scale of acceptance but I feel a ton of modern rap just doesn't have that balance. I completely agree about having a wide range of music tastes, I couldn't imagine listening to only a few genres or styles or artists.
I totally agree with you on one thing. Autotune. Why is it in everything. I fucking hate it too
