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[MSduderino]

Recently, we've heard a lot of discourse about whether game pass is profitable and I heard a response being that it is still in the customer acquisition phase. This premise seems dubious to me, but what does gaf think?

 

[Gonzito]

 

[adamsapple]

 

[PauloRoberto]

MS is a specialist of hiding and spoofing numbers when they are not good... and since we do not hear any official number related to Gamepass since I don't even know when... no, these numbers are NOT good.

 

[bender]

Based on the latest numbers we have and factoring in the Gold rebranding, overall subscribers has declined slightly.

 

[Banjo64]

It's been flatlined for a couple of years prior to even the CMA/FTC cases, straight from Ozempic Phil's mouth. 'Strictly confidential' until Microsoft's own lawyers uploaded it online

The only 'growth' they have had was when they converted their Gold users to Game Pass Core however even then I'm sure the overall number had declined by a million or 2.

 

[TintoConCasera]

If the numbers were good they would have made them public already.

 

[Zacfoldor]

 

[Kenneth Haight]

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

If the numbers were good they would have made them public already.

Nothing else to be said. If it was good we would know.

 

[ToadMan]

MS don't report anything accurately surrounding Xbox - we can only imagine this is because the numbers would be alarming if shared publicly.

To the best of public knowledge, the majority of GP subs - perhaps as high as 90% - are through Xbox consoles.

GP subs are predominantly on console and the console sales aren't growing - in fact they're declining. Cliff edge would be a reasonable way to describe Xbox sales drop now. It didn't sell that well at it's peak either.

So, basically no, GP isn't growing new subscribers in any meaningful way because sales of the console aren't growing.

PC is where MS may hope for growth - but it won't grow there in any significant way. GP is redundant on PC.

 

[LordOcidax]

 

[Spitfire098]

No matter how much some cope, Xbox wouldn't be going 3rd party if it was all sunshine and roses over in gamepass land.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Game pass tried to create a game first environment, and it's also Xbox live multiplayer. I'm guessing the subscribers went up.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Have not lost me yet. Thats about all I know of PC Gamepass subscribers.

 

[djjinx2]

No matter how much some cope, Xbox wouldn't be going 3rd party if it was all sunshine and roses over in gamepass land.

There are literally one or 2 members here who you could say "cope"

There aren't many Xbox posters here and most left are very aware and also ok with what's happening.

I enjoy GamePass and playing some games on my Series X. If Xbox disappeared overnight I'd just get a PC or PS5 no Biggie. We don't buy games on the green side so have no worries about losing libraries

 

[Crayon]

It's ms. You'll never know unless they get sued over it.

 

[Sooner]

If the numbers were good they would have made them public already.

The number of head-shots, distance traveled or enemies killed isn't even high enough to report anymore.

 

[Saber]

I'm with TintoConCasera , if numbers were so great they would parading non stop. If is something you know about Xbox is that they won't shut up.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Game pass subscriptions are flying off shelves as fast as the stores can stack them.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

I'm with TintoConCasera , if numbers were so great they would parading non stop. If is something you know about Xbox is that they won't shut up.

Same. Silence is generally a bad sign in this industry.

 

[Steve Holt]

Probably growing, to the detriment of everyone.

 

[jm89]

Here's the timeline of what we know of the sub numbers.

2022: 25 million gamepass + 11 million gold
Feb 2024: 34 million gamepass subs(combined with gold)
2025: Ms employee linked in profile saying they had 35+ million subs

If that MS employees gamepass numbers are somewhat up-to-date and not too far off then they've not even moved since 2022.