Is Kendrick Lamar on Sia - "The Greatest" the most phoned in feature of all time?

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Can we talk about how much talent Nicki Minaj has yet she wastes it all? Her verse on Monster was alright and she's made a killing off of it. She has a solo album and none of that shit is good. So much potential
 
BadAss2961 said:
I agree. He's a talented lyricist, but his songs just aren't very good. Needs to step up his ear and production I guess.
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What?! The instrumentals on TPAB were not only great and devoid of trendy sounds that would cause them to age terribly, but also thematically relevant. You throw "better" beats on TPAB and you have a dumber, less poignant record.
 
CrimsonSquall said:
What? His Untitled EP was hot flames and was huge when it dropped.
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I dunno, maybe it's just me. Control was one of the most exciting things I'd heard in ages. It felt like he was coming to really shake things up. Everything mainstream was Kanye, Jeezy, Rick Ross, Drake, Wayne, 2 Chainz, Khaled, DJ Mustard, Lex Luger, Mike Will, etc. A few of the names have changed but that's still pretty much the top 40 status quo.
 
Hycran said:
Couldn't agree more. People putting his name near any of the greats gives me the vapors. KRS would straight clown Kendro any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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WOAHHHHhhh cool it. KRS is a forefather but let's not pretend like the oldest school rappers are anything more than just the originators. ABC bars can't stand up to anything Kendrick Lamar has written
 
Lamar does soooo many verses on *insert pop artist* songs.

Can you imagine Pac or Biggie pulling fugazi stuff like that? Yeah yeah, different times I guess but that's a huge reason I would not put in him the same category.

It's way too many to not ignore.
 
How about Wayne's first appearance on a song slash feature?

Na, na, na, na, na
After you back it up, then stop
Then wha-wha-what
Drop it like it's hot
Now after you back it up, then stop
Now, wha-wha-wha-what
Drop it like it's hot
Now drop it like it's hot
Drop drop it like it's hot
C-M-B make you drop it like it's hot
Drop it like it's hot
Drop-drop it like it's hot
Drop it like it's hot
Drop-drop it like it's hot

Kusagari said:
Kanye on E.T.
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Not phoned in IMO, just bad.
 
RBelong2Us said:
Lamar does soooo many verses on *insert pop artist* songs.

Can you imagine Pac or Biggie pulling fugazi stuff like that? Yeah yeah, different times I guess but that's a huge reason I would not put in him the same category.

It's way too many to not ignore.
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Popular rap artists do pop features, it ain't 1994 any more

Plus those two were on R&B/Pop songs

The hell???
 
RBelong2Us said:
Lamar does soooo many verses on *insert pop artist* songs.

Can you imagine Pac or Biggie pulling fugazi stuff like that? Yeah yeah, different times I guess but that's a huge reason I would not put in him the same category.

It's way too many to not ignore.
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What.... Tupac and biggie were on a shit load of "fugazi" songs. Tupac alone had multiple pop/r&b sounding hit songs. Biggie has dropped some of his most legendary verses on mainstream r&b radio songs...

It's like most of you guys in thread have never actually listened to hip hop
 
Madness said:
Pop music is pretty much phoned in these days. Pretty faces who have okay voices that are enhanced and play over catchy beats by the best producers and dj's and songwriters.

I got the eye of the tiger, a fighter
Dancing through the fire
'Cause I am the champion, and you're gonna hear me roar
Louder, louder than a lion
'Cause I am a champion, and you're gonna hear me roar!
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

Above is Katy Perry lyrics for Roar.

Below is Rihanna and work which says the words out but she doesn't fully enunciate as she is trying to emulate the jamaican style of speech.

Work, work, work, work, work, work
You see me I be work, work, work, work, work, work
You see me do me dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt
There's something 'bout that work, work, work, work, work, work
When you a gon' learn, learn, learn, learn, learn, learn
Me na care if me tired, tired, tired, tired, tired, tired
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"Jamaican style of speech" 🙄🙄🙄
 
enzo_gt said:
How about Wayne's first appearance on a song slash feature?

Na, na, na, na, na
After you back it up, then stop
Then wha-wha-what
Drop it like it's hot
Now after you back it up, then stop
Now, wha-wha-wha-what
Drop it like it's hot
Now drop it like it's hot
Drop drop it like it's hot
C-M-B make you drop it like it's hot
Drop it like it's hot
Drop-drop it like it's hot
Drop it like it's hot
Drop-drop it like it's hot
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Wayne was like 14 or 15 years old
 
NandoGip said:
What.... Tupac and biggie were on a shit load of "fugazi" songs. Tupac alone had multiple pop/r&b sounding hit songs. Biggie has dropped some of his most legendary verses on mainstream r&b radio songs...

It's like most of you guys in thread have never actually listened to hip hop
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Dude, what are you talking about? Apples and oranges.

Kendrick does verses on Maroon 5 and Taylor Swift songs.

Thats equivalent only if Tupac did verses on Mariah Carey or whatever big pop artists there were during the early 90s. He did no such thing.
 
RBelong2Us said:
Dude, what are you talking about? Apples and oranges.

Kendrick does verses on Maroon 5 and Taylor Swift songs.

Thats equivalent only if Tupac did verses on Mariah Carey or whatever big pop artists there were during the early 90s. He did no such thing.
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Tupac had songs with Left Eye, Keyshia Cole

Biggie with MJ
 
RBelong2Us said:
Dude, what are you talking about? Apples and oranges.

Kendrick does verses on Maroon 5 and Taylor Swift songs.

Thats equivalent only if Tupac did verses on Mariah Carey or whatever big pop artists there were during the early 90s.
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Tupac did a song with K Cj and Jojo.

Still, none of that shit matters. Music industry is different today. If you don't think Tupac wouldn't have dropped a verse on a pop song you're looking at 90's rap with distorted lenses.
 
Ya'll are using the term Pop as this all inclusive term, when it wasn't like that in the 90's. Anytime Hip Hop and R&B made it to the Pop charts, It CROSSED OVER.
 
I can't remember too many Kendrick features I actually like.

There's that Flying Lotus track, Never Catch Me. That's a good one.

GKMC and TPAB sure are great!
 
Kendrick's pop features have been so bad. I mean I know rap features on pop songs usually are but the discrepancy between the quality of his own songs and the quality of his features is just so unbelievably huge.
 
I don't think Kendrick's feature was bad. Phoned in? Sure, I could see that, but I'm not expecting his a game from a feature on a pop track and the song is catchy as hell. Its not his best but I still enjoy it for being a few catchy bars on Sia's track,.
 
Man, that feature wasn't bad at all. His verse complimented the song thematically and his rhyme patterns matched the beat of the song. Are you not judging the whole thing as a whole sonically?
 
NYR said:
1. 50 Cent
2. Chingy
3. Chamillionare

Seriously though, I have listened to his albums, I respect his talent but I don't have him on repeat and don't see that changing anytime soon, it doesn't resonate with me and I have given it a reasonable chance.
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Haha! Are you at that point in your 30s or 40s where you stop seeking out new music and just listen to whatever you listened to in high school and college on endless repeat?
 
Just listened to it, not the worst thing I've heard but its unremarkable. Still not the most phoned in feature ever. That title belongs to Blinky Blink on the Take Me There track for the Rugrats movie. There's a reason why the words featuring Blinky Blink didn't appear past this song.

Case in point....
 
rap feats actually usually work with R&B but sound terrible on pop music. Left Eye on Donnell Jones "U know whats up" is a classic, Kanye on "American Boy" does a good job, Andre on "green light" is good and so on.

Rap fits R&B type songs more and have more of history together, on pop it's hard some of the beats is like wtf, how do you rhyme on these fairy tracks
 
RBelong2Us said:
Bro...did you just mention songs that came out after both dudes were already dead for years?

lol, wtf.
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Posthumous counts bruh

trixx said:
rap feats actually usually work with R&B but sound terrible on pop music. Left Eye on Donnell Jones "U know whats up" is a classic, Kanye on "American Boy" does a good job, Andre on "green light" is good and so on.

Rap fits R&B type songs more and have more of history together, on pop it's hard some of the beats is like wtf, how do you rhyme on these fairy tracks
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AMERICAN BOY FEATURING KANYE IS SO FUCKING GOOD LIKE MY GOD
 
ClayKavalier said:
Haha! Are you at that point in your 30s or 40s where you stop seeking out new music and just listen to whatever you listened to in high school and college on endless repeat?
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No, there is nothing serious in my post to indicate that. Are you at that point in your 20s when you think your taste is better than everyone else's?
 
Love the song but I have no idea why he's on the track.

Why is he doing pop tracks (ex. Taylor Swift, Sia, etc)?
 
Erevador said:
Definitely hurts the song, it feels terribly out of place, and goes nowhere lyrically.
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Yea. It's like super obvious that Sia and Kendrick didn't even collaborate at all, they just had him record a verse after the fact and slapped it on. They probably didn't even talk before recording it. Not that other songs don't do that, it's just that this one is painfully obvious. Especially the end, when he's all "no no" and "nah" as Sia's singing "don't give up" as part of the normal chorus..

Like take that Ariana Grande song with Nicki Minaj. Nicki actually seems like she's part of the song. She has her rap verse of course, but she also sings part of the chorus and is in the intro. She shouts out Ariana in her verse. It sounds like one song that they worked on together. Also, her cadence and the way she raps actually fits the song.

https://youtu.be/SXiSVQZLje8?t=2m4s
 
RBelong2Us said:
His albums are gems.

His guest appearances on many pop songs are a travesty.

Whiz f*cking Khalifa has better guest features on those type of songs than Kendrick.
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What I don't understand is people saying "Oh it's just a pop song, of course Kendrick isn't on his A-game". I'm not expecting lyrical miracle spiritual for a verse, but at least sound good on a track.

Kendrick has not even done that on a pop song once.
 
Judging rappers by their features in pop songs alone opens up a massive world of dudes who simply could not have given a fuck other than prob collecting a paycheck. Always seems like companies producing the pop songs basically tap whatever the biggest name at the moment was regardless of conflicting styles. Get a verse, distort it to make it fit, fuck it.
 
studyguy said:
Judging rappers by their features in pop songs alone opens up a massive world of dudes who simply could not have given a fuck other than prob collecting a paycheck. Always seems like companies producing the pop songs basically tap whatever the biggest name at the moment was regardless of conflicting styles. Get a verse, distort it to make it fit, fuck it.
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and really though... are you getting hip hop heads invested in 'Dont Wanna Know' by Maroon 5 because theres a Kendrick verse on it?

It does nothing but hinder the song and you aren't hitting another demo because of it.
 
Madness said:
Pop music is pretty much phoned in these days. Pretty faces who have okay voices that are enhanced and play over catchy beats by the best producers and dj's and songwriters.

I got the eye of the tiger, a fighter
Dancing through the fire
'Cause I am the champion, and you're gonna hear me roar
Louder, louder than a lion
'Cause I am a champion, and you're gonna hear me roar!
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

Above is Katy Perry lyrics for Roar.

Below is Rihanna and work which says the words out but she doesn't fully enunciate as she is trying to emulate the jamaican style of speech.

Work, work, work, work, work, work
You see me I be work, work, work, work, work, work
You see me do me dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt
There's something 'bout that work, work, work, work, work, work
When you a gon' learn, learn, learn, learn, learn, learn
Me na care if me tired, tired, tired, tired, tired, tired
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt9c0UeYhFc
 
FStop7 said:
Didn't Ja Rule do a couple of those early pop features, too?
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Quit using the term Pop because it doesn't tell me anything. He was still doing "Black music" with duets with Mary J. Blige, Bobby Brown, Ashanti, Jennifer Lopez, Christina Milian, etc.. These songs were getting heavy rotation on R&B/Hip hop stations and Black clubs and venues.
 
Kendrick is by my favorite rapper, but yeah most of his features are trash although to be fair it's not really worse than most features like this on pop songs.

Haha this one was particularly bad though.
 
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