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Is my Sony Bravia dying?

Rien

Rien

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Since a couple of days I have this weird bug. As you can see it doesn't show the picture correct and sometimes it still plays stuff from other streams in the bottom of the screen.

It's a 49" Sony Bravia from 2017.

Anyone experienced this as well with their Sony screens?
I closed all the apps to make sure there are not to streaming apps active in the background. Pulled the cord for 10 munites but nothing seems to work.
It's up to date as far that's possible for this model.

Is it dead?


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Factory reset seems to do the trick (so far). Thanx nush nush

ForAcademicPurposes said:
Does anyone own a panel that has lasted them longer than a decade?
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My previous panel I had for 12 years when I bought this one. I gave the old one to an old friend and I know he played for at least 2 more years. It wouldn't surprise me if it's still running. That was a JVC HD ready panel. Absolutely great
 
AJUMP23 said:
I wish they would come back to the US.
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They did, you can buy their 2025 flagship OLED Panasonic Z95B from Value Electronics or on Amazon through Beach Camera.

Panasonic Announces Return to the US with New Line-Up of OLED and Mini-LED TVs with Fire TV Built In

Panasonic announced its return to the US with its industry-leading TVs after a decade-long absence. The new line-up includes OLED (Z95A and Z85A) and Mini-LED (W95A) TVs ranging from 55 to 85 inches, all designed and developed in Japan, showcasing Panasonic's outstanding picture quality.
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ForAcademicPurposes said:
Does anyone own a panel that has lasted them longer than a decade?
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I've got a 2013 LG that's still "good", has a couple of dead pixels though.

I think there was a sweet spot early 2010's where the tech had matured and they still cared about quality. After that these companies want you to replace the TVs every few years. When adding new features no longer worked, shortening the lifetime always does.
 
nush said:
I've got a 2013 LG that's still "good", has a couple of dead pixels though.

I think there was a sweet spot early 2010's where the tech had matured and they still cared about quality. After that these companies want you to replace the TVs every few years. When adding new features no longer worked, shortening the lifetime always does.
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The feeling is mutual. You can also draw the same parallel with automobiles from a specific time and region.
 
ForAcademicPurposes said:
Does anyone own a panel that has lasted them longer than a decade?
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Yep, I have a couple of Samsung panels that are over a decade old. One of them is a 55" 3D LED that's pretty much in moth balls. I also have a 40-something inch 1080p panel connected to a raspberry pi that shows status of silly projects I do.
 
I've got a Bravia that was top of the line in 2015 in the living room. It's still perfect, but the wireless subwoofer stopped playing nice with it about two years ago, and it's proprietary shit so now I've just got a useless subwoofer in my living room, which isn't great. I guess I should throw it out :/.
 
ForAcademicPurposes said:
Does anyone own a panel that has lasted them longer than a decade?
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yes, several.

I have a Toshiba Regazia (sp)
Two Bravia Models
And a samsung that's still kicking.

None of these are daily use though. The only "main unit" I have had to replace due to failures are my projectors...its always the projectors.
 
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My main TV is a Panasonic Plasma TC-P65VT30 from 2011

Had one issue with it where I had to tighten the screws on the board to fix some image flicker. That was down to them failing to install adequate washers from the factory so over time the screws can vibrate loose.

I wonder if the factory reset doesn't work then it might be an issue like this.
 
Rien said:
Factory reset seems to do the trick (so far). Thanx nush nush
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a factory reset can fix a lot of stuff on modern TVs. a bunch of issues they have can be down to wierd data corruption.

I had a Samsung full array LED TV a few years ago, before switching to an OLED. and one day, about 1/3 of the LED backlights just didn't work anymore. trying to unplug it over night to clear the cache and similar stuff didn't work. factory reset however instantly fixed it.

so it wasn't a hardware issue, it was purely a software error that somehow kept part of the backlight off.

with my current Samsung OLED, I thought one day that I had a stuck pixel, stuck in 1 colour. turning it off and on didn't fix it. running one of those stuck pixel fixers didn't do anything either... so I tried a pixel refresh. lo and behold, the stuck pixel was not stuck anymore.
so it seems an automatic pixel refresh (which most OLEDs do from time to time over night) lead to this stuck pixel... and running another refresh fixed it.
so another software issue. the pixel had no issues hardware wise.
when you do a pixel refresh, you sometimes see coloured lines go across the screen as part of that refresh, and I assume while one of those lines went across, that 1 pixel never got the signal by the refresh program to turn the green subpixel off. and during the second refresh it did get the signal and was thereby fixed.
 
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kevboard said:
a factory reset can fix a lot of stuff on modern TVs. a bunch of issues they have can be down to wierd data corruption.

I had a Samsung full array LED TV a few years ago, before switching to an OLED. and one day, about 1/3 of the LED backlights just didn't work anymore. trying to unplug it over night to clear the cache and similar stuff didn't work. factory reset however instantly fixed it.

so it wasn't a hardware issue, it was purely a software error that somehow kept part of the backlight off.

with my current Samsung OLED, I thought one day that I had a stuck pixel, stuck in 1 colour. turning it off and on didn't fix it. running one of those stuck pixel fixers didn't do anything either... so I tried a pixel refresh. lo and behold, the stuck pixel was not stuck anymore.
so it seems an automatic pixel refresh (which most OLEDs do from time to time over night) lead to this stuck pixel... and running another refresh fixed it.
so another software issue. the pixel had no issues hardware wise.
when you do a pixel refresh, you sometimes see coloured lines go across the screen as part of that refresh, and I assume while one of those lines went across, that 1 pixel never got the signal by the refresh program to turn the green subpixel off. and during the second refresh it did get the signal and was thereby fixed.
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I had a similar issue with an Asus monitor. It started flickering and fading, looked like the board was just dying as the image started to corrupt and struggle to stay still.
I ran a factory reset and it fixed the problem. Thing is still running perfectly 5+ years on.
 
ForAcademicPurposes said:
Does anyone own a panel that has lasted them longer than a decade?
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technically yes. I still have a 2007 Samsung LED. it's basically a backup screen should a new one need a repair.
and indeed, a few months after I got my new OLED, it had an apparently widespread issue with the PSU inside. for the 2 days it took for the repair guys to come around and fix it, I had to dust off said 2007 Samsung.

still runs like a champ. but it was only really in use for like 5 years back in the day to be fair.

I also had a 16:10 1050p PC monitor, which actually was in use for about a decade. I actually still have it too, but haven't had it hooked up in years. should still work tho.
 
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ForAcademicPurposes said:
The feeling is mutual. You can also draw the same parallel with automobiles from a specific time and region.
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2008 Toyota. Really don't want a newer car, keep babying it and pouring in fresh oil.

I ended up with two Toshiba TVs, one 47" 1080 set from about 2010, and ancient 32" CRT from someones basement...the remote from the flat panel controls both, which I found out by accident after struggling to program one lol.

I had so many beige PC CRTs in my basement circa 2008 and had them ALL carted off in my friends pickup. What a dumbass move.
 
Toshiba 40" 3d led from the day comet melted down, still going strong 💪

Just got rid of a more than 15 year old Samsung 52" (I think it was, might have been 55" with the giant bezels) series 6 lcd from way back at the launch of mainstream 1080p TVs (couldn't afford the pioneer, lovely as it was. At the time). I did have to take it off the wall a few years back and replace all the capacitors, thanks Maplin.

Have a smaller 40 inch spare tv that's a few years old. But is barely used these days

Not had too much troubles with TVs over the years. Hopefully that continues 🤞
 
ForAcademicPurposes said:
Does anyone own a panel that has lasted them longer than a decade?
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Got a 60 inch Samsung plasma from over a decade. It's great, have a 10 year old 60 lg lcd above the fire place that's good to go too (but randomly pops up inputs but that's not a panel issue). My 42 inch lcd also is about 10 years old. Panel is good but its sooooo slow of an os. Switched it to an Apple TV asap
 
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kevboard said:
factory reset can fix a lot of stuff on modern TVs. a bunch of issues they have can be down to wierd data corruption.
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A lot of newer TVs are essentially massive smartphones minus the touchscreen. So that's not surprising.
 
BlackTron said:
Gross. I just want a display. You have one job, display stuff through the inputs thanks
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that's why PC monitors are becoming more popular I think. they usually only run a basic settings interface and that's it.

I think as a TV manufacturer one could get big in a niche market by offering a "Dumb TV".
zero OS bloat, no Apps, no way to connect to the internet.
but TV sizes and TV inputs.
 
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kevboard said:
that's why PC monitors are becoming more popular I think. they usually only run a basic settings interface and that's it.

I think as a TV manufacturer you could get big in a niche market by offering a "Dumb TV".
zero OS bloat, no Apps, no way to connect to the internet.
but TV sizes and TV inputs.
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Don't forget the remote which monitors don't have.

I flirt with buying modern TVs but I don't have the space for two big screens and am not throwing away my old "dumb TV" to make room for it.
 
ForAcademicPurposes said:
Does anyone own a panel that has lasted them longer than a decade?
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Still heavily using a Panasonic plasma I purchased in 2008, with zero issues.

BennyBlanco said:
I have a Panasonic Plasma from more than a decade ago in my living room and it's still trucking along fine. Never even got burn in. Looks great too.
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Trogdor1123 said:
Got a 60 inch Samsung plasma from over a decade. It's great, have a 10 year old 60 lg lcd above the fire place that's good to go too (but randomly pops up inputs but that's not a panel issue). My 42 inch lcd also is about 10 years old. Panel is good but its sooooo slow of an os. Switched it to an Apple TV asap
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... so apparently it's those of us in the plasma squad that are winning, good to know


AJUMP23 said:
Only the CRT remains.
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well yeah, I have 6 of those. It's a bit of an addiction. Even a 32" that is gorgeous, and some classic PC CRT monitors for higher res games.

I used to think the "every CRT will one day die" problem was deeply depressing, but since flat panels are apparently dying in under a decade according to this thread, at least it's not that pitiful. Any tv that doesn't even last at least 15 years is total trash IMO and an embarrassment to our technological progress.

And "smart" TVs are the most retarded thing on the market. That part of your tv will be obsolete in 3-4 years, why bake it into the set. Buy set top boxes.
 
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BlackTron said:
Don't forget the remote which monitors don't have.

I flirt with buying modern TVs but I don't have the space for two big screens and am not throwing away my old "dumb TV" to make room for it.
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there are now a handful of 40" and above PC monitors that are mostly free of any OS bloat.

they are usually insanely expensive tho.
 
Trogdor1123 said:
I wish plasmas came back. They were incredible.
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so many bad tradeoffs have been accepted and excellent technologies abandoned in the history of TVs, it's infuriating

I remember my annoyance at every damn flatscreen I saw in the earliest days of the CRT->flat transition, because universally their color depth, response time, etc was substantially worse than high end CRTs for a number of overlap years, but no one seemed to care because resolution is all that they see (for me, I'd put resolution nowhere near the top of concerns; eg I'd hypothetically take a 720p tv with excellent blacks and natural color over a 4k if the latter was even slightly worse on those attributes... no contest even)

And then plasma had unique strengths but, like CRTs, their production was complex so bare efficiency won rather than further development.

At least I'm living in my stubborn world where my primary TV set is still a plasma, and my primary gaming sets are all CRTs. Screw the lcd era.
 
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My 2025 Bravia does some funky stuff. It seems to be down to the shitty Android OS though.

9 times out of 10, it boots from standby to a black screen with only audio. Have to pull the power cable out and restart for it to actually work properly. Until the next time. It also takes like two minutes to boot, and is laggy as shit for another ten minutes. I made sure to remove as much of the bloat apps as I could to lessen this, but it's still shit. I wish I could install a community made OS for it.

Sure, it has a great screen, but I really fucking miss when TVs were just TVs.

My old budget 2014 W705 Bravia was a little beauty. Premium metal edging around the screen, with a lightweight and responsive OS.

My new higher end Bravia feels and looks so cheap by comparison.

kevboard said:
there are now a handful of 40" and above PC monitors that are mostly free of any OS bloat.

they are usually insanely expensive tho.
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This is true, but even the best OLED monitors can't compare to even a half decent OLED TV in terms of image quality. I have an Odyssey G6, and it doesn't look anywhere near as good as my current Bravia TV. I'd say that the budget supermarket OLED I have in the kitchen also looks better.
 
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kevboard said:
a factory reset can fix a lot of stuff on modern TVs. a bunch of issues they have can be down to wierd data corruption.

I had a Samsung full array LED TV a few years ago, before switching to an OLED. and one day, about 1/3 of the LED backlights just didn't work anymore. trying to unplug it over night to clear the cache and similar stuff didn't work. factory reset however instantly fixed it.

so it wasn't a hardware issue, it was purely a software error that somehow kept part of the backlight off.

with my current Samsung OLED, I thought one day that I had a stuck pixel, stuck in 1 colour. turning it off and on didn't fix it. running one of those stuck pixel fixers didn't do anything either... so I tried a pixel refresh. lo and behold, the stuck pixel was not stuck anymore.
so it seems an automatic pixel refresh (which most OLEDs do from time to time over night) lead to this stuck pixel... and running another refresh fixed it.
so another software issue. the pixel had no issues hardware wise.
when you do a pixel refresh, you sometimes see coloured lines go across the screen as part of that refresh, and I assume while one of those lines went across, that 1 pixel never got the signal by the refresh program to turn the green subpixel off. and during the second refresh it did get the signal and was thereby fixed.
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Thank you for your advise kevboard kevboard
 
ForAcademicPurposes said:
Does anyone own a panel that has lasted them longer than a decade?
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I have had my 43 inch Bravia KD43XD8099 since 2016, so I'm getting there.

Still looks superb for a standard LCD panel.

Paid over £700 and it works like the day I bought it. It's my bedroom TV now.

I have a mini-LED 65 inch set in the living room.
 
BennyBlanco said:
I have a Panasonic Plasma from more than a decade ago in my living room and it's still trucking along fine. Never even got burn in. Looks great too.
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I kinda doubt it has no burn-in.
have you ever run a solid full-screen color test to check for it? because even modern OLEDs that are way less susceptible to burn in than plasmas will get some burn in after a couple of years, even if it's barely visible.
 
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kevboard said:
I kinda doubt it has no burn-in.
have you ever run a solid full-screen color test to check for it? because even modern OLEDs that are way less susceptible to burn in than plasmas will get some burn in after a couple of years, even if it's barely visible.
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I guess I should've said no perceptible burn in when I'm using it
 
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