Is Street Fighter 4 the best fighting game of all time?

Dr. Kaos

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I've played all Street Fighter games since 1987 and I believe Street Fighter 4 (I'm including the expansions) is indubitably the best fighting game of all time.

I'm not a Capcom fanatic. I've played fighting games from SNK, Midway, Arc Systems, Squaresoft, Sega, Namco, Tecmo, Nintendo and others and they had some great games as we all know. (SS 2/4, FF2, RBFF, MOTW, KOF, Tekken, Soul Edge/Calibur, GG, VF2/3, etc.)

A few of the reasons I think SF4 is king:

- The animation is unparalleled. It's very satisfying.
- Facial expressions and reactions to hits are best in class. This is incredibly important.
- I love taunts and they put an enormous amount of them in.
- Focus mechanic is really cool and adds depth
- Characters play very differently from one another and are well-designed.
- The game mechanics are good. Avoiding long combos is a smart thing to do.

A few of the drawbacks:

- The timing is too tight for some links. especially those using LK/LP. Execution should be easier and require no time in practice mode.
- There are too many characters. Sounds crazy to complain about it but it's true. It prevents people from knowing every matchup and becoming proficient with all characters.


If you disagree, which game do you think is the best of all time and why?

If you agree, mah man!

EDIT:

Some people have said SF4 is noob-friendly like it's a bad thing. Ah say-Ah say-Ah say HWUT?

You've got it backwards. The more accessible a game is, the better. The easier and more consistent the execution the better.

In an ideal world, I would just put a helmet over my head and think about what I want to do, and the character will do it. 0 execution needed.

What I need to know is everything else. Hitboxes, moveset of both players, move priorities, character walking/dash/jump characteristics, possible combos, what my opponent is likely to do next, etc.

THAT is the awesome part about fighting games. THAT is where the depth comes from.
 
I think Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo is the greatest fighting game of all time.

It's old enough to drink, and it's still being played competitively.

I love Street Fighter 4, though.
Even though I suck at fighting games
 
I play a lot of fighting games and, while I do like SFIV, I do not think it's even close to best fighting game of all time.What really bothers me in SFIV is how option selects work.

Even in the SF series, I think 3S is better.
 
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- The animation is unparalleled. It's very satisfying. depends if you like 3d or sprites more
- Facial expressions and reactions to hits are best in class. This is incredibly important. they are really awkward and too looney tunes and actually take away from the game
- I love taunts and they put an enormous amount of them in. 3s had better taunts and they actually had a point
- Focus mechanic is really cool and adds depth its two mechanics from SF ex series in one clumsy thing
- Characters play very differently from one another and are well-designed. this is probably 4s best aspect
- The game mechanics are good. Avoiding long combos is a smart thing to do. not sure what this means or how its different than other street fighter games except V-ism
 
While its fun, 4 has so much goofy shit about it. Invincible backdashes, 1 frame links, ultras, etc. Third Strike is the best SF game. People that suck at 3S will be quick to whine about parries but they are plebs who can't appreciate next level reads.
VF4 is the best 3D fighter.
 
Nah, SF4's not even the best SF game released in the last 7 years. I'm not entirely sure I could pick "a" favorite. But it'd probably be tied between:

Some version of Virtua Fighter - Evo (never played Final Tuned) or some version of 5. Everything about VF always feels..."smart." There's so little bullshit in that game. It's also not a game where I feel like you have to dumb down your play to beat someone (noticeably) less skilled than you.

Vampire Savior - Just a satisfying game. Cool characters and moves. Interesting mechanics and (relatively) balanced. Extremely fluid and fast. Very high skill ceiling as well.


"Sagat was far too powerful in original vanilla SF4. Everybody just chose him."

This did not happen. Sagat wasn't even the best character in Vanilla.
 
It's one of the most important fighting games, considering it lead to the modern revival of the genre. That said, I still think the title of best fighting game goes to 3rd Strike. I say this as someone who played the game after SF4.
 
Regarding SF4 being the "best ever": while my reflex is to throw up inside my mouth, that's almost certainly being harsh. However, I can not honestly think of anyone who started playing the genre seriously before 2009 that thinks it's the best Street Fighter made, never mind the best fighting game.

It basically saved the fighting game genre and is currently elevating the scene to unparalleled levels, so yes I'd say so.
Uh, what?

The only thing it brought back was Capcom making fighting games again. It's not like Namco's fighters were not selling millions of copies on each release, or that even the awful 3D MK games (before MK9) would sell well. Or the fact that there may not be just one but several fighters in Japan that are more popular than whatever the current iteration of Street Fighter was.
 
I did like SF4 a lot, but I don't think it would be my first choice, even among the SF games. Personally Super Smash Bros Melee is my favorite, although it's so different from most fighters that I could understand not wanting to compare them.
 
Gotta give my nod to Tekken 3. Great roster, crazy wake up options, great graphics for the time. Huge upgrade over the previous game in almost every way.
 
You forgot to state which fighting game you believe is the best of all time.

I couldn't pick.

I like lots of different fighters for different reason. Alpha 2 is probably my favorite SF, though.

Vampire Savior
Marvel Super Heroes
SoulCalibur 1, 3AE, 5
TTT1
Virtua Fighter 5FS
Alpha 2
Last Blade 2
SamSho 4
Xmen vs. SF
DoA2:U

I love fighters. :)
 
Its the best Street Fighter.

But I believe the best fighting game of all tine is either Virtua Fighter 4 or Killer Instinct 2013.
 
3rd Strike being so loved is something I'll never understand.

It's nice looking yes, but it really hurt the scene. Parrying is awful.
 
Personally, the best fighting game of all time for me is
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With this in a close second
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I prefer Third Strike myself. Also Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Capcom vs SNK 2.

Not really a fan of the genre even though I have played a lot. Just have many friends who love the genre.
 
You forgot to state which fighting game you believe is the best of all time.

my bad!

Tobal 2/ Super Turbo/ Guilty Gear Accent Core/ Sam Sho 2 all have a special place in my heart where I could play them over and over forever.

I honestly don't think I could pick a "best" out of those 4, all for different reasons.

Super Turbo is handily the best fighting game ever made.

if I had to go with a super simple answer, I guess this would be it...I guess.
 
Tekken Tag Tournament and Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection are the best in my opinion. Soul Calibur 2&3 close behind.

So many great fighting games though. I love the Darkstalkers, MvC, MvSF, XMvSF, etc. games as well.
 
For the competitive crowd, I think it's up there tied with Third Strike.

For filthy casuals like me, nah. It's really good but among the newer games I had more fun with Killer Instinct, MK9 or Guilty Gear Xrd.
 
Its not like that would be some crazy position to have, SF4 is great, but I don't know if I could give it greatest. I'd go with Hyper Fighting myself, just before the inclusion of Super meters.

The real answer is probably VF4.
 
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