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[Wollan]

CD-ripping is allowed everywhere but what about DVD's?
I would love to be able to rip my DVDs legaly and take them with me on my next-gen console or my pc.

 

[Flo_Evans]

http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf

since DVDs are encrypted, defeating the encryption is illegal.

 

[Danj]

CD-ripping is allowed everywhere but what about DVD's?
I would love to be able to rip my DVDs and take them with me on my next-gen console or my pc.

CD-ripping isn't allowed "everywhere".. for example, a little known fact is that it's actually illegal to rip a CD in the UK, but nobody ever got prosecuted for it because everyone does it. With DVD ripping, because you have to circumvent the encryption on the DVD, it's illegal, but lots of people do it particularly with the advent of portable video devices like the PSP and the iPod video.

As for being able to do it, it's not really hard.. you just need to decrypt the DVD to your hard drive first and then there are a whole bunch of programs you can use to convert it to your desired format.

 

[Grug]

I rip my legally owned dvds into video for my PSP.

I'm not buying UMD movies that I already own DVD's of.

COme get me if its a problem Sony.

 

[E-Nature]

In Switzerland you are allowed to make three copies of every CD or movie or whatsoever. You are even allowed to give these copies to family members.

And it's even legal to download music. There is no law which prohibits this here even though the music etc. is protected by copyright laws. Thanks, Switzerland

I don't know how it is in your country, though....

 

[Jerkface]

Don't forget that the PS3 will "ripen" any movies you rip.

For example, we internally call it as "ripening", if you lay a content in a storage server on a network, CELL ripens it when it's not used and improves its quality. For example it can ripen an SD resolution movie to up-convert to an HD movie with more details. Those contents are stored in "CELL Storage" that is a network stroage with Gigabit Ethernet and RAID. We have many plans but will certainly offer CELL Storage.

 

[Koren]

With DVD ripping, because you have to circumvent the encryption on the DVD, it's illegal

That's the same, not in all countries... In France, you're allowed to circumvent encryptions and protections in a few cases (especially to ensure compatibility with devices you own).

They're currently writing a law to clarify some things, like DVD copy. The last iteration forbids general copy, but protects private copy, and will (if the law pass) say explicitly that breaking encryption for private copy is fully legal (in fact, DVD with encryption and Macrovision could be seen as illegals, but I fail to see how this could work).

The reasons behind this is to allow users, for example, to legally watch DVD on portable devices such as iPod video and PSP. There is a tax on storage (blank CD/DVD, memory cards, hard disks, MP3 players...) to back these rights. The only problem is distribution of the collected funds (most of the money go to a part of the music industry).

 

[Zensetsu]

In Switzerland you are allowed to make three copies of every CD or movie or whatsoever. You are even allowed to give these copies to family members.

And it's even legal to download music. There is no law which prohibits this here even though the music etc. is protected by copyright laws. Thanks, Switzerland

I don't know how it is in your country, though....

Thats a pretty crazy approach to copy protection. Switzerland is nuts. Don't they still have the compulsory army service too?

 

[mrklaw]

with bluray/HDDVD there is 'managed copy'. It would be nice if they could apply something retrospectively to DVD too - perhaps in a Vista environment, or encode into WMD-DRM?

 

[VNZ]

Thats a pretty crazy approach to copy protection. Switzerland is nuts. Don't they still have the compulsory army service too?

Sounds pretty much like Sweden. Compulsary army service included...

 

[ElyrionX]

Sounds pretty much like Sweden. Compulsary army service included...

Well, in Singapore, we got compulsory army service (two fucking years) and none of that awesome copying laws. I sure do love my country.............

 

[Kiriku]

In Switzerland you are allowed to make three copies of every CD or movie or whatsoever. You are even allowed to give these copies to family members.

And it's even legal to download music. There is no law which prohibits this here even though the music etc. is protected by copyright laws. Thanks, Switzerland

I don't know how it is in your country, though....

But...just like in Sweden, isn't it more a case of downloading music not being illegal? And by saying that, I'm not really arguing semantics either. I mean, you make it sound like they've actually come to a conclusion in court saying "yes, it should be legal to download music protected by copyright laws". Is that really true?
As far as I know, that's not the case in Sweden at least...but rather, that they haven't been able to keep the laws up to date with the fast development and possibilites of the internet. In Sweden it's illegal to share music, but not to download IIRC - or at least was, 'cause I recall a recent law saying it's also illegal to download music and movies without permission from the original author.

But then, it seems like there are still ways around it...for example, as long as you claim you didn't know the files you downloaded were protected by copyright laws, you can't get caught (but I don't think you could take that excuse too far either).
Anyway, I can't fathom how it would possibly be OK to download music protected by copyright laws, apart from exploiting some kind of legal loophole.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

with bluray/HDDVD there is 'managed copy'. It would be nice if they could apply something retrospectively to DVD too - perhaps in a Vista environment, or encode into WMD-DRM?

Not a chance. Managed copy will be used as a further incentive to make you buy all your DVDs again.
From a film execs perspective: Nice < Fat Loot.