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Is there really going to be an Xbox 360 shortage?

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i wouldnt listen to any of the 'experts' here, particularly the ones who had some convinced you'd be able to just waltz into wal mart today at your leisure and pick up a system.
 
Yes there is. I just got back from waiting 3 hours in the cold @ a local store, they only had 16 systems. 12 Prem 4 tard.

Either way, Microsoft has dropped the ball on this launch....because I didn't get one day 1. :lol
 
It wouldn't surprise me a bit if you'll se the next shipment within a week or so. I don't think the "shortage" will be that long.
 
M$ stated publicly that it wanted to sell 3 million, so you figure it out.
 
I don't think there will be an abundance of systems, but I think that you should be able to get one within 2 weeks if you want one.
 
today? not a chance.

in a few weeks? possibly.

if you really want one, I would get in good with someone at a store and find out when their shipments come in (not just x360 shipments, but just in general from the distribution center). check back every day a shipment comes in and your chance of getting one are already better than most other people's.
 
2 weeks for the next shipment. Ebay merchants will then slit their wrists.

I wouldn't be surprised if M$ is stockpiling for that shipment.
 
I think it will be like the PSP launch. You will see shortages in alot of markets, but you will see people in other towns/cities say that they can find the 360 on thier shelves.


People in smaller rural towns can really clean up buy selling thier stocks on Ebay.
 
Yeah, there's no chance MS wants all of the XO-shelves in the stores to be empty come christmas. I think we'll see a lot of premium packs on the shelves by then.
 
Just do what I did and have online retailers notify you once the product is avail.
 
It'll be hard to find one initially, but MS will keep making regular shipments to Christmas and back.

And if the thing doesn't fly off the shelves, I wouldn't be surprised if they limited supply a little more to help incite a panic--but I don't think they have the Hype Capital™ to warrant that move.
 
Well, I was one of those people that said you'd be able to walk into a Walmart on launch day and pick one up off the shelf (eats crow), so my opinion isn't worth too much right now.

That being said, unless Microsoft is COMPLETELY retarded, you should be able to pick one up in a week or two. It's one thing to short out your product supply to create hype, and then it's another thing to seriously fuck up the distribution chain and prevent people who wish to buy your product from doing so.

I *think* Microsoft is shorting supply to create hype for Black Friday, and then I think the week after next you'll start seeing them regularly in stock.
 
Haleon said:
Well, I was one of those people that said you'd be able to walk into a Walmart on launch day and pick one up off the shelf (eats crow), so my opinion isn't worth too much right now.

I too said "I should be able to hit Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, Sears before work on Tuesday and get a system."

NOTHING... 9 stores between 7AM and 8:30AM... NOTHING! All sold out, too many people in line for the number of systems, signs displaying sold out...

Only 8 systems at Sears and 15 and Wal-Mart are you kidding my Microsoft...

Seriously, Fuck You! - Yes, system will probably keep rolling in... but to neglect your core X-Box owners on Day 1, it doesn't get us hyped... you already had us... it pisses us off!
 
BojTrek said:
I too said "I should be able to hit Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, Sears before work on Tuesday and get a system."

NOTHING... 9 stores between 7AM and 8:30AM... NOTHING! All sold out, too many people in line for the number of systems, signs displaying sold out...

Only 8 systems at Sears and 15 and Wal-Mart are you kidding my Microsoft...

Seriously, Fuck You! - Yes, system will probably keep rolling in... but to neglect your core X-Box owners on Day 1, it doesn't get us hyped... you already had us... it pisses us off!

Yeah, this is pretty much how I feel. Have had a system pre-ordered since August and have nothing on launch day. I've been told I'm #3 on the 2nd shipment and "might" get a system by Christmas. So pissed right now.
 
Goreomedy said:
2 weeks for the next shipment. Ebay merchants will then slit their wrists.

I wouldn't be surprised if M$ is stockpiling for that shipment.


gamestop was told we will receive probably like 2 more this coming week and another shipment 3 weeks into december that will also be like 10ish.. thats not alot..

these ebay prices speak the truth.. 1500+ for a system is the f'n truth here.. o_O
 
I went by a 24 Hour Wal-Mart last night to scope out the scene and try to grab a 360. Saw two guys in line and thought that it wasn't bad at all. But then I spoke to the guy at the counter who said those two guys had been there since 7 AM, and that they only had 2 systems to sell! WTF?? Two systems? And a larger, 24 hour Wal-mart? That makes no sense at all.
 
Why such a low number of consoles available for the big holiday sales weekend (black friday)? It makes no sense, you would think they would want to have a decent amount out there for such a huge shopping weekend.
 
-james- said:
Why such a low number of consoles available for the big holiday sales weekend (black friday)? It makes no sense, you would think they would want to have a decent amount out there for such a huge shopping weekend.
hype > than first day sales. first day sales are only on the first day. hype lasts through the season.

but there is no such thing as a manufactured shortage, so keep moving.. keep moving. :P
 
borghe said:
hype > than first day sales. first day sales are only on the first day. hype lasts through the season.

but there is no such thing as a manufactured shortage, so keep moving.. keep moving. :P

In this case no ...
 
my Toys 'R Us supposedly got 4 bundles, although their original number was 6 (all Core)

I waited in line since 4:45 pm yesterday to get one of Circuit City's 16 TOTAL 360's (12 Premium, 4 Core)

and I know my Wal-Mart got 14 (2 Premium, 12 Core).

to be fair, Best Buy and another Wal-Mart got a bunch (44 at Wal-Mart I think)...
 
With how terribly low the shipments were, I would have to think that this shortage is artificial and that subsequent shipments should be pretty regular and decent in size. I'm guessing that it will be an easy thing to find by mid-January.
 
Jeff-DSA said:
With how terribly low the shipments were, I would have to think that this shortage is artificial

And you'd be wrong. If Microsoft could have had more out there for day one, they would have. There is no reserve stock somewhere they are holding back. In fact, there was so much demand at a Best Buy in Seattle, Microsoft airlifted several hundred systems from the Zero Hour event up to Washington to prevent a near riot. If they were really holding back stock for an artificial shortage, I doubt they would have gone to the expense of hiring a helicopter on half a day's notice for a thousand mile flight, since any such stockpile would invariably be in Seattle to begin with.

The "OMG no more shipments until January!!!" stuff is absurd, though. I think most of the predictions in this thread are correct and more systems will trickle in weekly between now and Christmas.
 
MattKeil said:
And you'd be wrong. If Microsoft could have had more out there for day one, they would have. There is no reserve stock somewhere they are holding back. In fact, there was so much demand at a Best Buy in Seattle, Microsoft airlifted several hundred systems from the Zero Hour event up to Washington to prevent a near riot. If they were really holding back stock for an artificial shortage, I doubt they would have gone to the expense of hiring a helicopter on half a day's notice for a thousand mile flight, since any such stockpile would invariably be in Seattle to begin with.

The "OMG no more shipments until January!!!" stuff is absurd, though. I think most of the predictions in this thread are correct and more systems will trickle in weekly between now and Christmas.


I dunno, I think it would be worth the cost of the helicopter. Shortages and rumors of shortages will increase cachet and in turn increase demand
 
Fatghost28 said:
I dunno, I think it would be worth the cost of the helicopter. Shortages and rumors of shortages will increase cachet and in turn increase demand


M$ paid all the people in the lines too!! there is no real demand.
 
MattKeil said:
And you'd be wrong. If Microsoft could have had more out there for day one, they would have. There is no reserve stock somewhere they are holding back. In fact, there was so much demand at a Best Buy in Seattle, Microsoft airlifted several hundred systems from the Zero Hour event up to Washington to prevent a near riot. If they were really holding back stock for an artificial shortage, I doubt they would have gone to the expense of hiring a helicopter on half a day's notice for a thousand mile flight, since any such stockpile would invariably be in Seattle to begin with.

The "OMG no more shipments until January!!!" stuff is absurd, though. I think most of the predictions in this thread are correct and more systems will trickle in weekly between now and Christmas.

Why would they be in Seattle to begin with? If anything, they'd be stored in a warehouse near major distribution stations, not in Seattle. It's not like Microsoft has a huge warehouse or underground bunker on their campus to store consoles in.
 
Fatghost28 said:
I dunno, I think it would be worth the cost of the helicopter. Shortages and rumors of shortages will increase cachet and in turn increase demand

What happens after the hardcore have had their fill of insanely high 360 prices and the consoles are more readily in stores? We know about November and December, but what happens in Janurary?
 
Nintendo played the shortage game all the time to great effect. Two weeks of real shortages will make people more likely to buy the 360 in a months time when they see it on the shelves again.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Why would they be in Seattle to begin with? If anything, they'd be stored in a warehouse near major distribution stations, not in Seattle. It's not like Microsoft has a huge warehouse or underground bunker on their campus to store consoles in.

Because that's where they were shipped from China. Everything Microsoft had went out to the retail channels. If anything is being held in reserve, it's the retail distributors' doing, not Microsoft's. I imagine the shortage is just due to not being able to make enough fast enough, nothing more conspiratorial than that.
 
Also keep in mind that Microsoft still has to launch in two more territories in the next few weeks. While I doubt they'll allocate more than 200K to Japan, you've got to guess that at least 500K will be heading to Europe. It's going to be slim pickings here in the States until after the holidays if you ask me.
 
You guys do realize people were waiting in lines at 7 in the morning because of all the stores posting signs that say things like:

"SUPPLY SHORTAGE"
"ONLY 10 PREORDERS GUARANTEED"
"SECOND SHIPMENT"

etc...

On all previous launches, if you pre-ordered, you were guaranteed to receive a unit. I can't say with any degree of certainty if the shortages are manufactured for hype or if there are legitimate problems making units, but either way, MS fucked up the launch. There's no way any reasonable person could deny that. When an EB stores takes in 50+ plus preorders and is only given 20 units, that's MS's fault. When a Walmart gets 4 systems total, that's MS's fault. If there is a supply shortage for a forseeable future, it's not because the demand is just so "OMG GOTTA HAVE IT HOW AMAZINGLY AWESOME" it's because MS isn't shipping enough to cover the initial hardcores that purchase things on launch.
 
We went to several different stores this morning, and all but Costco had really pathetic stock numbers. We're talking '2' to '8' systems per store, only a few getting up close to 20.

I could have secured one from costco, but I wasn't prepared to stand for five hours with a low 30s wind chill. SO that's that!

MS did fuck this one up, though.. I have a hard time believing it's a manufactured shortage at this point.
 
alexxx said:
We went to several different stores this morning, and all but Costco had really pathetic stock numbers. We're talking '2' to '8' systems per store, only a few getting up close to 20.

I could have secured one from costco, but I wasn't prepared to stand for five hours with a low 30s wind chill. SO that's that!

MS did fuck this one up, though.. I have a hard time believing it's a manufactured shortage at this point.

My local costco got 72 in today... and I still didnt get one.
 
Haleon said:
Well, I was one of those people that said you'd be able to walk into a Walmart on launch day and pick one up off the shelf (eats crow), so my opinion isn't worth too much right now.

That being said, unless Microsoft is COMPLETELY retarded, you should be able to pick one up in a week or two. It's one thing to short out your product supply to create hype, and then it's another thing to seriously fuck up the distribution chain and prevent people who wish to buy your product from doing so.

I *think* Microsoft is shorting supply to create hype for Black Friday, and then I think the week after next you'll start seeing them regularly in stock.





What is this black friday you mention??
 
StRaNgE said:
What is this black friday you mention??
In America, the Friday after Thanksgiving is considered "Black Friday" because it's the busiest shopping day of the year. Stores all over the country have mega sales, and people line up outside the doors at 2 in the morning waiting to get in and snatch up sale items.
 
Haleon said:
You guys do realize people were waiting in lines at 7 in the morning because of all the stores posting signs that say things like:

"SUPPLY SHORTAGE"
"ONLY 10 PREORDERS GUARANTEED"
"SECOND SHIPMENT"

etc...

On all previous launches, if you pre-ordered, you were guaranteed to receive a unit. I can't say with any degree of certainty if the shortages are manufactured for hype or if there are legitimate problems making units, but either way, MS fucked up the launch. There's no way any reasonable person could deny that. When an EB stores takes in 50+ plus preorders and is only given 20 units, that's MS's fault. When a Walmart gets 4 systems total, that's MS's fault. If there is a supply shortage for a forseeable future, it's not because the demand is just so "OMG GOTTA HAVE IT HOW AMAZINGLY AWESOME" it's because MS isn't shipping enough to cover the initial hardcores that purchase things on launch.

Wow -- you know so much. So very much.
 
I'd say there's a problem when Brooklyn's only major Target and nearby Circuit City can't even manage to get 120 units.

Not each... between the two.

HUNDREDS in line. And no dice for Mej. Very pissed.

Particularly when CC, behind closed doors (but very visible windows) started cashing out MULTIPLE xboxes to each other (presumably to eBay), before the customers were even let in.

Pity I wasted an extra $10 overnighting PDZ to me, as I probably won't be able to play it or Kameo until next year now.

At least, all of the GS and EBs around here are claiming that their second shipments aren't coming until Dec. 22nd, and most of those are gone due to the unfulfilled preorders from today.

What the fuck.
 
Well many people are reporting problems with theirs, and aside from say Perfect Dark or PGR3 there aren't really any super great games yet... so I guess I can wait a little while. I just hope it isn't April. It's sad, I may actually have to dust off my copies of PDZ and Kameo before I get to play them. :lol
 
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