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Is this real? (UFO-related, long read)

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I don't know if I'll read it or not, but just skimming the article and looking at the pictures, I've always wondered why every single photograph of a supposed UFO is always blurry and really shitty in quality. Huh.
 
Because they were taken from the moon by astronauts in '69 and the 70's.

Just read the conversations between Houston and the astronauts. If true, wow.
 
demon said:
I don't know if I'll read it or not, but just skimming the article and looking at the pictures, I've always wondered why every single photograph of a supposed UFO is always blurry and really shitty in quality. Huh.
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Easier for experts to draw up inconclusive analysis of the photo which makes the photo half right all of the time, since most people would assume that if experts can't prove it conclusively fake, it might be real.
 
silver said:
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicphotos.html

These conversations, what people like Neil Armstrong supposedly saw... WTF?
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There's lots of stuff like that.

Some astronauts called UFO's Santa Claus and those astronauts who passed over the dark side of the moon would announce that "Santa Claus does indeed exist!" after coming out of blackout.

There's a lot more to it but the stuff at the link is somewhat common knowledge and it's been said that at every single Apollo space shot there were UFO sightings nearby.
 
ManaByte said:
There's lots of stuff like that.

Some astronauts called UFO's Santa Claus and those astronauts who passed over the dark side of the moon would announce that "Santa Claus does indeed exist!" after coming out of blackout.

There's a lot more to it but the stuff at the link is somewhat common knowledge and it's been said that at every single Apollo space shot there were UFO sightings nearby.
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:lol
I'm glad we have an authority on the subject here.
 
So did the sightings just conveniently stop when we got better cameras and equipment that didn't have a bunch of blurry lights showing up? And if aliens are just constantly buzzing around the earth's atmosphere, why is it that they never seem to come down here?

Aliens are so lame. I hope it's something cooler like ghosts.....or maybe even:

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olimario said:
:lol
I'm glad we have an authority on the subject here.
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Can't trust you Olimario, your Dad is one of the conspirators.
 
olimario said:
:lol
I'm glad we have an authority on the subject here.
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Maybe you should ask your daddy.

There's lots of stuff like that.

Some astronauts called UFO's Santa Claus and those astronauts who passed over the dark side of the moon would announce that "Santa Claus does indeed exist!" after coming out of blackout.

There's a lot more to it but the stuff at the link is somewhat common knowledge and it's been said that at every single Apollo space shot there were UFO sightings nearby.
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It's not common knowledge. You haven't read the article either. What happened to this evidence? Where is it? Why hasn't Armstrong told the world? He says he's clearly seen ships, and that "they're watching us". Why then is it not yet common knowledge that intelligent extraterrestrial beings exist? Or at least spacecraft we don't know of?
 
border said:
So did the sightings just conveniently stop when we got better cameras and equipment that didn't have a bunch of blurry lights showing up?
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We haven't been to the moon anymore, douche bag.
 
silver said:
It's not common knowledge. You haven't read the article either. What happened to this evidence? Where is it? Why hasn't Armstrong told the world? He says he's clearly seen ships, and that "they're watching us". Why then is it not yet common knowledge that intelligent extraterrestrial beings exist? Or at least spacecraft we don't know of?
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I meant the Apollo stuff and what the they saw is common knowledge in terms of UFO stuff.
 
border said:
Aliens are so lame. I hope it's something cooler like ghosts.....or maybe even:

CYOA71.jpg



Can't trust you Olimario, your Dad is one of the conspirators.
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1 question and 1 comment regarding the pic.

How do the kids stand like that without getting sucked out?

And considering how big the Sun is, I think the Vampire would have died en route to the ship.
 
ManaByte said:
I meant the Apollo stuff and what the they saw is common knowledge in terms of UFO stuff.
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"Common knowledge" for conspiracy nuts who will believe anything they read on the internet, regardless of how implausible or unintentionally hilarious.
 
Deku said:
1 question and 1 comment regarding the pic.

How do the kids stand like that without getting sucked out?

And considering how big the Sun is, I think the Vampire would have died en route to the ship.
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Well obviously he's a reverse space vampire. They're afraid of the dark.
 
Deku said:
1 question and 1 comment regarding the pic.

How do the kids stand like that without getting sucked out?

And considering how big the Sun is, I think the Vampire would have died en route to the ship.
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It's the cheese moon at the vampire painted a 3D version of himself on the window. The real vampire is behind the kids
 
silver said:
We haven't been to the moon anymore, douche bag.
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It's possible to get pictures of the space surrounding earth without sending a manned spacecraft to the moon, douche bag.
 
People always say well if aliens really do have spaceships they are obviously much more advanced than us so why would they come here?

My answer:

To show their descendants how NOT to run a country/planet.
 
Deku said:
1 question and 1 comment regarding the pic.

How do the kids stand like that without getting sucked out?

And considering how big the Sun is, I think the Vampire would have died en route to the ship.
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The sun only has that effect when passing through the earth's atmosphere. Draculas, being from Romania, were communists, so Moscow sent up the draculas knowing that they would be impervious to the sun and thus, almost invincible.

The kids stand like that without getting sucked out because their ship is in an air pocket created by the dracula.

I've read all of the adventures in that book.
 
BTW speaking of space vampires fans of the movie Lifeforce should read the book it's loosely based on:

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Very interesting read.
 
Fun bonus: actual conspiracy theory, posted on several occasions by ManaByte, who has also implied that he is a devout Christian. Uh huh.

http://forums.gaming-age.com/showpost.php?p=325715&postcount=12
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Yea, they used a dentist appointment as a cover story.

Basically in 1954 Eisenhower was taken to Edwards AFB (it was called Muroc Test Center else back then) for a meeting and an exchange of information. Now, this is after Roswell and after a few encounters between the government and the Greys and some big revelations that are tied to the Grand Deception. Eisenhower met with one of the 18 known species of Aliens, one of the "good" races that resemble tall albino Nordics, who told Eisenhower that they could rid us of our trouble with the Greys (ending the abductions and mutilations), but they offered no technology in the deal and Eisenhower told them to get lost.

Instead of that a deal was struck with the Greys where they could abduct a certain number of people (as long as they provided a list to the government) in exchange for some technology. Well, the deal went sour. The Greys were abducting far more people than they let on, the the technology wasn't anywhere near what was bargained for. They made the wrong deal from what they have since learned.

Close Encounters of the Third Kind is based on these exhanges of information in the 1950's.

The "Grand Deception" is that apparently the human race is the product of experimentation by some unknown alien race that we haven't encountered yet. The Greys refer to us a "containers". The Greys told Eisenhower that they created our religions and showed him a holographic recording of the death of Christ. IMMEDIATELY after this meeting, Eisenhower was so terrified that he placed "I God We Trust" on the US currency and added "Under God" to the pledge.

There's a whole bunch more to it than that, but that's the basics of the Eisenhower situation. Every President up to Kennedy knew the details. After Kennedy was killed it was made "need to know" information. Bush 1.0 knows as he was the head of the CIA and thus a member of MJ-12, and Nixon knew. But after that the President is not told anything unless he needs to know. Some think Clinton knows something due to a close call in the mid-90's.
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It's almost brilliant in its sheer preposterousness and absurdity.
 
border said:
It's possible to get pictures of the space surrounding earth without sending a manned spacecraft to the moon, douche bag.
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Read the fucking article and then reply. You're making a fool of yourself.
 
Hehe, i always have fun watching FOX's tv shows on that subject, they actually had astronauts talking about the footage in one show, almost makes it... credible o_o
 
silver said:
Read the fucking article and then reply. You're making a fool of yourself.
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I'm just asking why there are no more alien pictures. It doesn't have to do with the article.....which I had to stop reading due to uncontrolable laughter when I got to the "They're talking in in code - they must be talking about aliens!" bit.
 
DarienA said:
People always say well if aliens really do have spaceships they are obviously much more advanced than us so why would they come here?

My answer:

To show their descendants how NOT to run a country/planet.
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Their not doing a good job of it. If their intent was to intervene, they would either have taken over our leaders discreetly and run the world government X-files style, or alternatively, made it known to the public they do exist, land a battlegroup, send an Armada into orbit and impose their will.

But for Aliens to even care about us in that way, would mean only a moderately advanced Alien civilization, with a space fleet, which is widely popular in science fiction. But realistically, those fleets may be more useful for inter-planetary warfare and the alien's own petty wars than moving around the galaxy. And these alien races may simply not be advanced enough to even want to bother with our planet. Imagine trying to conquer the moons of Saturn with our current technology level. It's not feasable, and these aliens would be in the same situation even if they have a means of getting to us.

A truly advanced civilization that can observe us, and is capable of real exploration, trade and communication on a Galactic scale probably won't be travelling in their version of the Enterprise. These civilizations would be so far ahead, likely several thousand , tens of thousand or even hundred of thousand years ahead of us that to them, it would be like humans observing an ant farm.

They may infact be all around us, we just don't see it even when they are intrusive. Just like how ants scurry around our feet and hands when we block their path, we're simply part of their environment. On the same token, their control over us may be on the same level we have over ants.
 
back on topic:
ANOMALIES SEEN ON THE MOON FROM EARTH

Excerpts from NASA's own publication (N6624927), released in 1966, chronologically lists recorded lunar observations and activities:

1870 Purplish haze illuminating lunar floor
1881 Whole region between Aristarchus and Herodotus appeared in strong violet light
1907 Part of Crater Plato glowing with light
1912 Small red glowing area on shadow side of the moon
1944 Mist on floor of crater Schickard
1955 White flashes near Posidonius
1958 Mt. Piton enveloped in cloud-like mist
1959 Crater Littrow obliterated by hovering cloud

From 1871 to 1896, 40 members of England's Royal Astronomical Society reported observing various geometrical shaped light patterns on the moon. In the following years, came confirmed sightings of a moving 50 wide opaque object, great white domes and long bridge like structures on the Plane of Mare Crisium. In 1958 , both US and Soviet scientists collectively observed a huge glowing oval object upon the lunar surface. Washington Daily News 1968
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Deku said:
Their not doing a good job of it. If their intent was to intervene, they would either have taken over our leaders discreetly and run the world government X-files style, or alternatively, made it known to the public they do exist, land a battlegroup, send an Armada into orbit and impose their will.

But for Aliens to even care about us in that way, would mean only a moderately advanced Alien civilization, with a space fleet, which is widely popular in science fiction. But realistically, those fleets may be more useful for inter-planetary warfare and the alien's own petty wars than moving around the galaxy. And these alien races may simply not be advanced enough to even want to bother with our planet. Imagine trying to conquer the moons of Saturn with our current technology level. It's not feasable, and these aliens would be in the same situation even if they have a means of getting to us.

A truly advanced civilization that can observe us, and is capable of real exploration, trade and communication on a Galactic scale probably won't be travelling in their version of the Enterprise. These civilizations would be so far ahead, likely several thousand , tens of thousand or even hundred of thousand years ahead of us that to them, it would be like humans observing an ant farm.

They may infact be all around us, we just don't see it even when they are intrusive. Just like how ants scurry around our feet and hands when we block their path, we're simply part of their environment. On the same token, their control over us may be on the same level we have over ants.
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No I'm not saying to intervene I'm saying like you tell kids about the effects of drugs and then you SHOW them drug addicts? Well here we've got a planet full of idiots and so aliense show their descendants... see this is what happens when you let petty bickering based on differences in climate, skin color, religious beliefs, etc get in the way of working together...
 
DarienA said:
No I'm not saying to intervene I'm saying like you tell kids about the effects of drugs and then you SHOW them drug addicts? Well here we've got a planet full of idiots and so aliense show their descendants... see this is what happens when you let petty bickering based on differences in climate, skin color, religious beliefs, etc get in the way of working together...
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I think if the aliens have advanced and survived for so long, they probably have solved these problems.

Then again, there's a school of thought that says all advanced civilizations become extinct and that is why space is so empty right now. Advance civilization come around, thrive for a while then disappear, so each time there's an advanced civilization in the galaxy, they are alone and the other life forms are either dead or still developing.
 
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/184/1

It’s all true. We never went to the Moon. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin never set foot on Mare Tranquilitatus. They filmed it all on a soundstage in Nevada’s Area 51. Stanley Kubrick directed, slowing down the film speed to make it look like the astronauts were walking in low gravity. He used the same techniques he developed for his movie 2001: A Space Odyssey, which “coincidentally” came out in 1968, the same year that NASA claimed to send Apollo 8 around the moon. But Kubrick was forced to do it, and so he left clues in the photographs. If you look at them closely you can see that some of the shadows do not match up and there are other inconsistencies. The flags wave when there is no air. There are no blast craters under the lunar landers. Kubrick was a master filmmaker and he would not have been so sloppy with his art—he would have put the blast craters there and he would not have allowed the flags to wave. But perhaps he was trying to tell us something, provided we are smart enough to recognize it. Maybe that is why he died under mysterious circumstances in 1999.

President John F. Kennedy announced the lunar goal in 1961. But NASA scientists quickly realized that traveling to the moon is impossible. The Van Allen radiation belts will kill anybody who tries to reach the moon. NASA officials knew this early on and realized that they would have to fake it. In fact, one of the reasons that the CIA, Lyndon Johnson, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the military-industrial complex, and the Knights Templar had John F. Kennedy killed was because Kennedy was about to cancel the Apollo program. Too many people were going to make too much money from faking the lunar program, so Apollo had to continue. Oliver Stone knew it. He even mentioned it in his movie JFK. And he has hardly worked since then. That is not a coincidence.

Lyndon Johnson knew that he had to get somebody competent to run the lunar hoax project, so he recruited the same person who told Franklin Roosevelt in November 1941 that the Japanese were planning to bomb Pearl Harbor. This man—we’ll call him Mr. X—had previously helped Johnson fake the Gulf of Tonkin Incident and can be seen in photos of the grassy knoll in Dallas, carrying an umbrella. He worked as the executive secretary for MAJESTIC-12. For the lunar hoax project Mr. X recruited a number of people from the Philadelphia Experiment. The Brown and Root Company (now Halliburton) built the soundstages.

We now know from reputable sources that the Soviets were about to upstage the American Apollo 8 and Apollo 11 missions by sending cosmonauts to orbit the moon. But their rockets failed, which some people believe is even more proof that it is impossible to send people to the moon. Unfortunately, the Soviet Union lacked the filmmaking technology of the United States and they were unable to fake their own moon missions. But they did find out about the American deception and blackmailed the United States into shipping them millions of tons of grain to buy their silence. Yuri Gagarin found out about this plan, which is why the KGB had him killed. Why else would the United States prevent its adversary from starving except to keep them silent about a major scandal?

Of course it is ironic that the Americans had to fake the moon landings, because they already had access to the flying saucer technology recovered at Roswell in 1947. The three alien pilots all died and were dissected at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, but the flying disc was relatively intact. Unfortunately, the Air Force was not able to successfully copy the discÂ’s power source, which used a form of Zero Point Energy that the Nazis had tried to perfect. After nearly two decades of trying, the project was finally shelved until the technology was later revived in the 1980s and successfully used to power the Aurora spyplane during test flights in the Bermuda Triangle. Some of the flying disc technology was used in the Stealth Bomber. By an amazing coincidence, the same hangar at Area 51 that for years housed the alien craft was used as the soundstage for the faked moon landings. No American president knew about the Roswell craft or the aliens until Richard Nixon, which is why he had to be removed from office after he found out. Mr. X fed damaging information about Nixon to Woodward and Bernstein using the codename Deep Throat. A few years later, some people in Hollywood made a movie called Capricorn One about a faked Mars mission that also proved that the Apollo landings were fake. Mr. X was called out of retirement to deal with the people involved in this project, one by one. The movie starred O.J. Simpson, and Mr. X had him framed.
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ManaByte said:
ANOMALIES SEEN ON THE MOON FROM EARTH

Excerpts from NASA's own publication (N6624927), released in 1966, chronologically lists recorded lunar observations and activities:

1870 Purplish haze illuminating lunar floor
1881 Whole region between Aristarchus and Herodotus appeared in strong violet light
1907 Part of Crater Plato glowing with light
1912 Small red glowing area on shadow side of the moon
1944 Mist on floor of crater Schickard
1955 White flashes near Posidonius
1958 Mt. Piton enveloped in cloud-like mist
1959 Crater Littrow obliterated by hovering cloud

From 1871 to 1896, 40 members of England's Royal Astronomical Society reported observing various geometrical shaped light patterns on the moon. In the following years, came confirmed sightings of a moving 50 wide opaque object, great white domes and long bridge like structures on the Plane of Mare Crisium. In 1958 , both US and Soviet scientists collectively observed a huge glowing oval object upon the lunar surface. Washington Daily News 1968
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People see all sorts of shit. Many astronomers "saw" planets inside Mercury's orbit; and didn't humankind believe there were all sorts of gardens and cities and roads all over the moon at one point?
 
Fowler said:
People see all sorts of shit. Many astronomers "saw" planets inside Mercury's orbit; and didn't humankind believe there were all sorts of gardens and cities and roads all over the moon at one point?
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HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE AREN'T ANY

Don't forget the canals on Mars.
 
Fowler said:
This is arguably the most brilliant piece of work of all time. It includes every conspiracy ever all wrapped into one! ManaByte, the ante has been upped. Time to deliver a new uber-theory.
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Don't tempt me to unleash the Dulce stuff! Oh, and we did land on the moon.
 
Deku said:
I think if the aliens have advanced and survived for so long, they probably have solved these problems.

Then again, there's a school of thought that says all advanced civilizations become extinct and that is why space is so empty right now. Advance civilization come around, thrive for a while then disappear, so each time there's an advanced civilization in the galaxy, they are alone and the other life forms are either dead or still developing.
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Argh I'm not getting this across clearly.... no I'm saying it as a joke... like look here's a bunch of backward idiots who can't get their shit together over dumb things like skin color, etc...

<buries head in shame for inability to get point across>
 
Unfortunately, the Soviet Union lacked the filmmaking technology of the United States and they were unable to fake their own moon missions.
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That's by far the best bit... they were able to put a man in orbit, but those high end hollywood effects, way beyond their capabilities.
 
The most widely accepted theory about advanced (alien) civilizations is that they would be peaceful and observant (no interference). This may be the case. In the article, Armstrong says, "they're watching us" and "they're checking out the instruments". I realize this is science fiction stuff, but what if they really are peaceful observers, watching us set foot on our moon for the very first time? Wouldn't be that weird...
 
silver said:
The most widely accepted theory about advanced (alien) civilizations is that they would be peaceful and observant (no interference). This may be the case. In the article, Armstrong says, "they're watching us" and "they're checking out the instruments". I realize this is science fiction stuff, but what if they really are peaceful observers, watching us set foot on our moon for the very first time? Wouldn't be that weird...
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He also said they were warned off.
"Armstrong: It was incredible, of course we had always known there was a possibility - the fact is, we were warned off!"
 
demon said:
I don't know if I'll read it or not, but just skimming the article and looking at the pictures, I've always wondered why every single photograph of a supposed UFO is always blurry and really shitty in quality. Huh.
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Most people cut off their relatives heads with cameras, let alone getting a clear shot of something far-off and anomalous. :)

border said:
So did the sightings just conveniently stop when we got better cameras and equipment that didn't have a bunch of blurry lights showing up?
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They've stopped?

DarienA said:
BTW speaking of space vampires fans of the movie Lifeforce should read the book it's loosely based on:

n3311.jpg


Very interesting read.
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Lifeforce, minus Patrick Stewart and the naked lady? No thanks.


I enjoy reading Manabyte in threads like these. I'm interested in and somewhat follow information on the paranormal, but it's clear that compared to him I'm in the minor league.
 
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