It seems inevitable that MS will join the handheld market.

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I am sure they are looking at PSP first to decide how they will react whihc is what many are saying. Then start their stuff. They have a better crack at this than the home market against Sony. Nokia i think still have potential but just not with N-Gage as it was a big misstep. Looking at the smart phones out there they could certainly get the tech although design(shape, hold etc.) could still be an issue.

It will be interesting to see what chips the gfx card manufacturers come up with for phones and handheld entertainment. The tech is moving very fast. Look at mobile phones/smartphones for example.
 
The Xboy will have the graphical capabilities of a high end PC, but will be the size of a Dreamcast and will require that you carry a battery backpack on you

Now that we've got the trolling out of the way...
 
Microsoft's handheld will have PSP-like power and DS-like features such as the touchscreen for Itagaki to go wild.

MS, perverts, and boobies win.
 
belgurdo said:
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:lol At least the name is funny!

No, Microsoft will focus primarly on the consolemarket, waiting to take over the throne from Sony, who on their turn loses their attention on the same market because of their handheld...
 
I really hope MS doesn't try a handheld. They've done a great job with Xbox but I don't see how they could bring anything new to the portable market. They probably couldn't produce something more powerful than PSP (as they did with Xbox vs PS2) or more quirky than DS.
 
Anyone can create an extremely powerful handheld. These are major companies we are talking about they can handle it easily. I'd like to see what ATI come up with for the next GB for example. Maybe MS will enlist ATI or Nvidia?

Nokia have some interesting phones coming out. HD phones are out the next year. The tech is advancing really fast. Maybe a HD handheld? :) Graphics even better than PSP, better analogue stick, maybe even a touch screen too? I can see them using it for other uses quite successfully. Email, internet?
 
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Isnt MS putting all handheld support into the Gizimondo?
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No. Its just ports and clearly seems like they arent serious. I am sure its to test waters. Otherwise Rare's handheld department for example would be destroyed by now and they wouldnt bother with Gizmondo or Tapwave.
 
Deg said:
They have a better crack at this than the home market against Sony. Nokia i think still have potential but just not with N-Gage as it was a big misstep. .
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Wouldn't overtaking Nintendo in the handheld market be comparable to overtaking Sony in the console market? I'd think it'd be almost harder, considering the number of GBA games that will be backwards compatible.
 
Redlink said:
Wouldn't overtaking Nintendo in the handheld market be comparable to overtaking Sony in the console market? I'd think it'd be almost harder, considering the number of GBA games that will be backwards compatible.
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Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. Beating GB is another thing entirely. Entering a market is another. You dont need a very large chunk of marketshare to make profit.
 
Deg said:
Anyone can create an extremely powerful handheld. These are major companies we are talking about they can handle it easily. I'd like to see what ATI come up with for the next GB for example. Maybe MS will enlist ATI or Nvidia?

Nokia have some interesting phones coming out. HD phones are out the next year. The tech is advancing really fast. Maybe a HD handheld? :) Graphics even better than PSP, better analogue stick, maybe even a touch screen too? I can see them using it for other uses quite successfully. Email, internet?
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Nokia's flagship smartphone for next year (and remember the N-Gage is built off their current smartphones) will be promoted for its 3D capabilities -- supposedly the interface is all 3D too to emphasize that.
 
Microsoft doesn't have the balls.
 
I doubt the market can support yet another handheld. I really think both the PSP and the Nintendo DS are going to have a hard time in a market with skyrocketing development costs, decreasing shelf space (at least at the stores around here) and the limited resources of developers. I just wonder how Sony is going the manage it's first party resources to handle both PS2/PS3 and the PSP. It seems Nintendo isn't doing a great job of handling both the GC and it's handhelds, and that's with years of experience.
 
If MS comes out with a console, I'll be counting the days until the next industry crash. Too many consoles, not enough fun games.
 
Dreamfixx said:
If MS comes out with a console, I'll be counting the days until the next industry crash. Too many consoles, not enough fun games.
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Yeah...uh what? I have a huge backlog and I know most people here have one too.
 
Making a powerful handheld is not hard, making a powerful handheld with todays battery technology takes a fucking genius in engineering.
 
Mashing said:
Making a powerful handheld is not hard, making a powerful handheld with todays battery technology takes a fucking genius in engineering.
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No it doesnt. The tech is all there. Its all about cost mainly. MS can easily do it. :D
 
Microsoft is concerned with control, nothing more, nothing less. If they do become interested in portable gaming, it will not materialize in the form of dedicated hardware; it will show up in the form of a more game-development friendly version of the PocketPC operating system.
 
There are way too many systems out already. I was standing in line at the local Halo 2 launch. Just so happens one guy there has that Nokia handheld. He's like, they are so rare, I've only met one other person with it. It's because it's a failure dumbass. He seriously said that it was better than GBA and the upcoming PSP. Stupid people are in gaming, that's the problem. It's been that way since about the early 90's and expotentially explodes every year
 
I wish Microsoft would just support the DS and PSP and make games for them. Just think of a completely new Halo game for say the PSP and a Crimson Skies, and Conker game for the DS.
 
hope not. Handhelds are secondary to home consoles, i dont want MS shifting attention from Xbox 2 onto a stupid portable
 
They entered the console industry because Sony was trying to get users to surf the web and do all their day-to-day PC stuff on the PS2. This was clearly going to cut into MS's OS market if it ever happened. Perversely, it is MS that has the best online strategy of the consoles...

I only think they'd bother going into the handheld market if handhelds start taking the market away from Windows CE, but how realistic is this?
 
Jonnyram said:
They entered the console industry because Sony was trying to get users to surf the web and do all their day-to-day PC stuff on the PS2. This was clearly going to cut into MS's OS market if it ever happened. Perversely, it is MS that has the best online strategy of the consoles...

I only think they'd bother going into the handheld market if handhelds start taking the market away from Windows CE, but how realistic is this?
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That's what I was thinking. They kind of had to come up with something since Sony was very upfront about their goal of making the PC obsolete (a goal that's obviously farther away than they hinted at 5 years ago).

I don't think PSP really represents much of a threat to MS's core business, and you probably won't get much of a direct response from MS. I doubt you're going to see a full fledged handheld from them any time soon.
 
Well, let's look at the current (or near-future) state of handheld. Should Microsoft enter the portable console market, to compete with the PSP they would have to produce an absurdly powerful portable and sell it for less than half of what it costs them to make that. Since this makes absolutely no sense and would cause them to lose a crapton of money with no actual plan to make it back, it is clear that Microsoft will do it.
 
"That's what I was thinking. They kind of had to come up with something since Sony was very upfront about their goal of making the PC obsolete (a goal that's obviously farther away than they hinted at 5 years ago)."

Weirdly, this was something that Sony ended up not doing/backing away from.

Did Sony unintentionally invite the vampire around for dinner?

'Well, let's look at the current (or near-future) state of handheld. Should Microsoft enter the portable console market, to compete with the PSP they would have to produce an absurdly powerful portable and sell it for less than half of what it costs them to make that. Since this makes absolutely no sense and would cause them to lose a crapton of money with no actual plan to make it back, it is clear that Microsoft will do it.'

Roofles!
 
DCharlie said:
"That's what I was thinking. They kind of had to come up with something since Sony was very upfront about their goal of making the PC obsolete (a goal that's obviously farther away than they hinted at 5 years ago)."

Weirdly, this was something that Sony ended up not doing/backing away from.

Did Sony unintentionally invite the vampire around for dinner?

'Well, let's look at the current (or near-future) state of handheld. Should Microsoft enter the portable console market, to compete with the PSP they would have to produce an absurdly powerful portable and sell it for less than half of what it costs them to make that. Since this makes absolutely no sense and would cause them to lose a crapton of money with no actual plan to make it back, it is clear that Microsoft will do it.'

Roofles!
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I think they underestimated Microsoft's resolve. All of this is making me think of Sun and Netscape
 
MS doesn't need to enter the handheld game market. The PocketPCs will eventually take over handhelds and all your gaming will be done on them.
 
"For Sony, this will be a big experiment," said Jay Defibaugh, game and software analyst with Credit Suisse First Boston.

"Everybody, including Microsoft, will be watching how Sony's new portable game console will perform in the market. If Sony succeeds, others may consider entering the market. But if it fails, others will not even consider entering into the market, dominated by Nintendo, for the next several years," he said.
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will? they already have. you just haven't uncovered the conspiracy that DS is actually an MS product. they're seeing how the new "Nintendo" brandname can sell.
 
MS already has their hands in multiple portable sectors - PDAs, mobile phones, digital audio players and now the more versatile digital media players starting to show up. I don't think its a matter of seeing what becomes of the PSP or DS at this point, I think you'll find that sectors of handheld hardware that MS already has a hand in are self-motivated towards similar goals.

Did Sony unintentionally invite the vampire around for dinner?
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Maybe, but not by doing anything out of the ordinary. Sony has always been one for grandiose plans and pie in the sky ideas and I think MS overestimated their ambition, or at least the immediacy of it.
 
Mashing said:
Making a powerful handheld is not hard, making a powerful handheld with todays battery technology takes a fucking genius in engineering.
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No, just do what Sony does, instead of taking the initative yourself, leave it up to the developers. Then reject or fail their games in TRC when they fail to have proper battery life, which Sony can't even give a hard number on.
 
I definately hope Microsoft doesn't enter the handheld market. Its already going to be expensive enough with two hand helds in the market. The consoles wars are alrady bad as it is$$$$$.
 
Microsoft is doing a big push behind portable video players right now. See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/portablemediacenter/default.mspx

It won't be much of a stretch for the next gen of these players to sprout gaming features. They will already have high-end mobile processors and GPUs built in.

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