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It: Welcome to Derry - Teaser Trailer

Turned this off during the first episode. Some of the acting was already a bit shoddy but of course "Muh racism" had to be front and centre as well. Not only that but we have little boys talking about their "lactating nipples when the aliens come" (???) and the first time we see a Jewish household at the dinner table they instantly mention the Holocaust and unironically go on about the ridiculous "lampshades from human skin" nonsense. It's literally the "10 minutes into any Netflix show" meme.

Was wondering how they were going to shoehorn even more diversity into 60's smalltown rural America but then I saw this thumbnail on the IMDB page and that was all I needed to know lol.

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I will just stick to anime instead.
 
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Lots of ad posters in Paris Subway since a week or so, they really want to push this.
Good if the quality is there.
 
Episode two properly freaked me out at a certain part in the spoiler below. That was crazy cool to watch being so creepy.

The supermarket part, especially when that dude starts leaning from the aisle edges
 
The only thing I don't like so far:

The military story. I have no idea if that has any connection to the book but the military looking for a long hidden 'weapon' in Derry?
 
If you wait until after the credits, they do a short making of for the episode. Episode 2 started out pretty slow, but went off the rails again by the end. Really enjoying it so far.

Think I caught an Easter egg. In Ronnie's room she had a poster for Raisin in the Sun starting Ruby Dee. Believe she played Mother Abigail in the Stand TV show in the 90's. Very cool. Looks like they put a lot of thought into this show. Love that.
 
Insane Metal said:
Damn. I wasn't expecting it to be THIS good.
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The intro they added to episode 2 is fantastic. Probably one of the best intros I've seen in any show.

Paasei said:
Episode two properly freaked me out at a certain part in the spoiler below. That was crazy cool to watch being so creepy.

The supermarket part, especially when that dude starts leaning from the aisle edges
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The guy peaking right behind the girl's shoulder got me good.

That whole scene is scarier than anything in either of the two movies.
 
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They seem to enjoy their birthing scenes with 1 per episode so far.

And Lilly still ending up where she tried to avoid by telling the cop what he wanted to hear.
He's a Bowers, so not really a nice bloodline.

I expect Ronnie's dad won't make it back from jail.
 
Ep 1......wow that ending!

The race stuff is fucking dumb, as it almost always is, because we have a guy who openly disrespects some new Major yet he has a black co-worker and black guys are all over the base. Really? I suppose it's just too rich a writing opportunity but it's tedious when it's hamfisted and undercut by the casting. Not really sure where they are going with it considering half the cast is wrapped around the 2 black families. But I can kinda see that the Hanlons might mistake Derry creepiness for racism and not realize the real threat.
 
So far the racism theme and military involvement has worked for the story IMO. And the overall story does too. I am very much enjoying this show.

On a related but different note, holy shit. The show is making the movies look pg 13.
 
Vyse said:
If you wait until after the credits, they do a short making of for the episode. Episode 2 started out pretty slow, but went off the rails again by the end. Really enjoying it so far.

Think I caught an Easter egg. In Ronnie's room she had a poster for Raisin in the Sun starting Ruby Dee. Believe she played Mother Abigail in the Stand TV show in the 90's. Very cool. Looks like they put a lot of thought into this show. Love that.
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I wonder if they will connect this show to other King works, I know that this season will end with the burning of The Black Spot. They have lot of material to work with in regards to Derry and Pennywise past from the books. Especially the racism, Pennywise many methods of spreading fear in that town. He feeds off fear, he's a eldritch being
 
NickFire said:
So far the racism theme and military involvement has worked for the story IMO. And the overall story does too. I am very much enjoying this show.

On a related but different note, holy shit. The show is making the movies look pg 13.
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The race thing is intermittent though. We see that the small town of Derry, in the whitest state in the US, has a sizable black population (unless every black 'townie' lives in that one building). AND we see that the military base, close enough for folks working there to live in Derry, ALSO has a sizable black population (enough that the head psychic is black and there are several other black enlisted are visible in a short drive around base. So to THEN see the Derry 'white folk' act like they've NEVER seen a black lady about town just makes no sense. Or Will and Ronnie, when they first meet, it isn't "whoa, ANOTHER black kid, 'bout damn time!" but rather "why you like reading?" All the runtime spent on these silly angles takes away from building up Lily, setting up this bizarre angle with her dismembered father, explaining why the cops have such a boner for Ronnie's dad (since it clearly can't be because he's the only black guy in the area aka John Coffey), showing us the TRAUMATIC aftermath of the theater and exactly how or why the cops thing a single guy could do that to kids and why Ronnie, herself a witness, isn't getting grilled by the cops.

Is this a show about racism in the far north or is it a show about an alien monster that preys on the fears of children? I think trying to work both angles ultimately dilutes the show, the racism stuff is old hat now in 2025, it's a tired and boring storyline because we all know the 2-3 places it's gonna go, and the FAAAAR more scary and interesting stuff is already getting short shifted to make room for "yup, I'm a black man and I'm your boss, we gonna fight about it?" nonsense. The actors are good enough to just be people, and Pennywise is a big enough villain that he doesn't need to share the stage with human vices.

Also, the fucking makarov operates like almost every other pistol. I've owned one and I didn't need to be a super soviet spy to figure out how to insert the mag and rack the slide. WTF was that? It's like the script writer had heard the story of the nagant revolver and the russian roulette exploit but forgot all the details and made this up instead. But then again, wildly crazy firearms stuff and a general distain for anything military is classic Stephen King so I'll allow it :P
 
Interesting that the guy has no fear, really wonder how that will play out against IT, would be funny if he's just walking kryptonite for him.
 
Based on some comments here it sounds like my gut feeling about the show was right. I'm so tired of the endless shows and movies about American racism.

Branded said:
Turned this off during the first episode. Some of the acting was already a bit shoddy but of course "Muh racism" had to be front and centre as well. Not only that but we have little boys talking about their "lactating nipples when the aliens come" (???) and the first time we see a Jewish household at the dinner table they instantly mention the Holocaust and unironically go on about the ridiculous "lampshades from human skin" nonsense. It's literally the "10 minutes into any Netflix show" meme.

Was wondering how they were going to shoehorn even more diversity into 60's smalltown rural America but then I saw this thumbnail on the IMDB page and that was all I needed to know lol.

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I will just stick to anime instead.
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I think the lady in the left corner is the girl from the Seinfeld episode where she plays an offended Native American. I don't think I've seen her in anything else.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
Interesting that the guy has no fear, really wonder how that will play out against IT, would be funny if he's just walking kryptonite for him.
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I'm not going to be shocked if pretty much everyone dies except people connected to known future stories. Certainly no obligation for a happy ending every cycle.
 
Trilobit said:
Based on some comments here it sounds like my gut feeling about the show was right. I'm so tired of the endless shows and movies about American racism.


I think the lady in the left corner is the girl from the Seinfeld episode where she plays an offended Native American. I don't think I've seen her in anything else.
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That's how the book is though, it's fine to not want to watch it but it's funny how this is labeled DEI just because it delves into racism

Racism was a thing in the 60s, Pennywise is just using that to get fear out of some of his victims

And yes Pennywise has gone after adults but that's rare and usually when he does go after adults is it's when they escape him when they are kids, they know about him or they are planning on trying to kill him

The only reason why he doesn't usually attack adults is due to adults being able to rationalize the hallucinations and can fight back while with kids they are usually easier to pick on for him

Since this show is going into Derry's history which is what I wanted the two movies to go into, so I'm happy with this show so far. This season does cumulate into something monstrous that happens at the end of this segement of Derry's history. The book has three to four major events that strengthens Pennywise. It's been awhile since I read the book, which was 2017 (I don't do rereads) so my memory is a bit fuzzy on certain things. I remember loving when King went into the history of Derry. The book is different in the way they portray it where they are more historical vignettes about Derry's past so I'm happy we are getting an exploration of those parts in the show. Pennywise wakes up every 27 years to feed and I think we will get three to four seasons with each season going backwards in time whenever Pennywise wakes up

My only issue with the show is the focus on the military since I don't remember them showing up in the book

But if it's not your thing, it's not your thing

I love both movies but when it comes to the scary parts in the show, they are much more scarier and gorier than the movies which is a good surprise
 
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Not watched the recent movies but a mate came round so we put this on. Just found it very uninteresting. The horror scenes are way too long and quickly lose any sense of fright and just become scenes of gore. The CG is off putting, it's bad, but I wouldn't care about it if it fit the vibe, but it doesn't.

Racism in this time period makes sense, but this is 2025 racism and it's so damn tired. It does the characters and story a disservice as it gets in the way, with almost every scene featuring a black person has to have some sort of racial thread. The wife of the army guy moving in felt like a perfect character to see what it was like as an outsider coming in to Derry, but they scuffed it by throwing in the race thing rather than stick to the outsider thing. I feel bad for these actors playing these roles.

There's a few characters I've liked and a few moments, but I'm happy to bow out here and won't be back for episode 3.
 
analog_future said:
"How dare the show further tackle themes that the book centered around"
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I'm just exhausted by the modern American masturbation of racial issues in media. At this point I'm envisaging in a future US visit bending down to tie my shoelace and someone pops up and says "the Black people have had to bend down to the white people for a long time" and I'm like "okay, yeah that's bad". And then I order a burger and sit down to eat and someone pops up and tells me that "the white man has devoured the spirit of Black people just like I'm wolfing down that burger" and I'm like "uhh, okay". And then I go to an icecream place and sit down to enjoy some sundae and someone pops up to tell me that "the hopes and dreams of Black people have melted away like my icecream is melting away in my tall glass" and I'm like "...".

It's just relentless at this point and there's no end in sight, just and endless march towards keeping old wounds open to make as much money on it as possible from bad actors.
 
At least it's not as bad as Lovecraft Country. That just made any white person watching feel bad for existing. Gave up after 2 episodes.

But at least they're acknowledging that racism was an issue back then. So many shows these days that go back to the mid 20th century either by setting or time travel just cast black actors in roles without thinking about it. I watch some shows and think "Well I guess racism and homophobia wasn't an issue back then after all".

As for the whole military angle, as far as I remember, they weren't in the novel at all so this is all new. Bringing the guy from The Shining into this and linking the world of Stephen King risks making this Castle Rock 2.0
 
CastorSoze said:
At least it's not as bad as Lovecraft Country. That just made any white person watching feel bad for existing. Gave up after 2 episodes.
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But that was the POINT of LC. The book (written by a white guy) was explicitly tied to racial attitudes of the 50's and used Lovecrafts distain for miscengenation as a plot hook. Never got past ep1 of the show but the book did a good job with it.

CastorSoze said:
But at least they're acknowledging that racism was an issue back then. So many shows these days that go back to the mid 20th century either by setting or time travel just cast black actors in roles without thinking about it. I watch some shows and think "Well I guess racism and homophobia wasn't an issue back then after all".
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My issue with IT isnt that they deal with Yankee racism, but rather that the world they constructed doesnt seem to support the rampant, but very casual, racism they depict, AND its getting in the way of the actual plot of the show (or at least the plot i wanna see) with the IT creature. It'll this show wants to be about racism with a sprinkle of psychological terror, im not interested.

CastorSoze said:
As for the whole military angle, as far as I remember, they weren't in the novel at all so this is all new. Bringing the guy from The Shining into this and linking the world of Stephen King risks making this Castle Rock 2.0
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He did this in the books though, always referring to his other characters. While Lovecraft himself didn't actually do this much, the cabal of writers around and after him certainly did.
 
Didn't even know about this until my son told me. 1 episode per week is just killer. We both agreed we will wait and watch 2 episodes instead of just 1.
 
Everyone complaining about race issues in the show never read the novel 100%

Its set in the 60's proper as the movies decided to take an easy step and go into the 80's and then the present. Maybe they wanted to build off of stranger things success which also took IT'S vibe for its show.

But this series is really using the books materials so far. I don't know if the military angle will pay off. As the theme for its shows/movies has always been a poor ending (it episode 1 had a very good climax/ending). And this may be our poor ending yet again.

But one things certain, race tensions were very much felt in the north and the entire country in the 60s the chosen actors even tbe kids are all doing a great/good job. And lastly the military is not going to win this war with Mr. Bob Grey that's for sure.
 
CastorSoze said:
At least it's not as bad as Lovecraft Country. That just made any white person watching feel bad for existing. Gave up after 2 episodes.
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I finished all of Lovecraft Country and hated it. Back than I used to have a higher tolerance to that stuff but if I watched that show now, I would have dropped it after the first episode or just quit halfway through the first episode

Welcome To Derry is nothing like Lovecraft Country

CastorSoze said:
But at least they're acknowledging that racism was an issue back then. So many shows these days that go back to the mid 20th century either by setting or time travel just cast black actors in roles without thinking about it. I watch some shows and think "Well I guess racism and homophobia wasn't an issue back then after all".
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That's hard to avoid due to being set in the 60s

IT is Top Three KIng for me in regard to his books so I'm extremely happy the show is staying lot more faithful in regards to themes

CastorSoze said:
As for the whole military angle, as far as I remember, they weren't in the novel at all so this is all new. Bringing the guy from The Shining into this and linking the world of Stephen King risks making this Castle Rock 2.0
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I love Castle Rock especially the second season despite it's flaws. Still a bit salty it got cancelled but at least it was more of an anthology series

I shall see how I feel about the show overall once all the episodes are released. I find the military segements to be interesting and I noticed as you said that one of the soldiers shows up in one of King's books The Shining
 
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NickFire said:
On a related but different note, holy shit. The show is making the movies look pg 13.
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This. I have some issues with the show (acting-wise and themes), but i got admit they're not holding back when it comes to the horror. And, at the end of the day, that's what i'm here for.
 
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Well damn, the beginning of the first episode is something else. Not sure yet how
I feel about the creature. This is Pennywise's origins story, isn't it? So the flying creature is IT, and his "parents, brother and sister" in the car are basically creatures/monsters then too?
Interesting start, wouldn't mind if we learn more about this.

Didn't find it creepy yet, but that
ending definitely was something I didn't see coming. IT just slaughtering the children as if it's nothing, yeesh.
Nobody safe. But I'm here for it.
 
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Stafford said:
Well damn, the beginning of the first episode is something else. Not sure yet how
I feel about the creature. This is Pennywise's origins story, isn't it? So the flying creature is IT, and his "parents, brother and sister" in the car are basically creatures/monsters then too?
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Not really, pennywise is older than the earth itself, and has been in Derry for centuries, this is just one of his many 27 year hibernation/awakening cycles.
 
This shit is great. I just watched the giligan sci fi show right before this and enjoying this a lot more.
 
Watched the pilot episode earlier and I just found it to be extremely mediocre, assembly line modern Horror "content". It even did the cut music, monster screeching and bass drop thing during the finale that's in ever modern Horror trailer. The CG and lack of any discernible visual style or interesting cinematography is very 2025 and it also has that ultra-processed, digital look I associate with streaming "content" at this point. I'm just personally highly turned off by all this.

I also had a hard time with the dialog and acting. Nothing about any of it sells the time period for me. A show like Dark, which must've had a fraction of this budget, felt much more immersive to me for example.

I know I'm jaded and just don't really get into modern Horror so I'm sure it's fine for most viewers though. I'll give E2 a shot because well...it's there and I've got nothing better to do! Maybe I'll flip.
 
TerribleAtThisGame said:
Watched the pilot episode earlier and I just found it to be extremely mediocre, assembly line modern Horror "content". It even did the cut music, monster screeching and bass drop thing during the finale that's in ever modern Horror trailer. The CG and lack of any discernible visual style or interesting cinematography is very 2025 and it also has that ultra-processed, digital look I associate with streaming "content" at this point. I'm just personally highly turned off by all this.

I also had a hard time with the dialog and acting. Nothing about any of it sells the time period for me. A show like Dark, which must've had a fraction of this budget, felt much more immersive to me for example.

I know I'm jaded and just don't really get into modern Horror so I'm sure it's fine for most viewers though. I'll give E2 a shot because well...it's there and I've got nothing better to do! Maybe I'll flip.
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Out of curiosity, what horror do you enjoy?
 
analog_future said:
Out of curiosity, what horror do you enjoy?
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Anything good from the silent era up to late 80s tends to be my shit. Not the biggest schlock/ultra-B gore fan but I'll do the occasional Italian giallo etc. for the style. Actually just rewatched the original Candyman the other day and appreciated it more than ever. I like a moody visual style and I love black & white.

But depends, there's plenty of newer stuff I also really like. Most recently I thought Talk To Me was cool.
 
I really want to watch this, but I hate waiting week-after-week for new episodes to drop. 😩
 
reinking said:
Episode 3 was awesome. I'm all in now.
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adamsapple said:
Yep, great episode. Halloran is a much more central character than I thought after the first episode and I'm happy for that!
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I thought it was the worst episode. Felt like a Goosebumps book and the CGI was insanely awful throughout.


Still digging the show and the larger story is definitely interesting though. Hopefully that's the worst episode of the season.
 
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