It's been a year since COD4 and the maps are still not free.

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Rapping Granny

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November 5th 2007 was when COD4 released.

Activision and IW release the first and only map pack for the most popular online game this gen on April 5th 2008 consisting of 4 maps for $10.

One map is from COD2 but reskinned, one map is from the SP and the other 2 are very mediocre maps.

A year later, a new Call Of Duty game is on the shelfs and the COD4 maps are still not free.

Is Activision the new EA?

short answer: yes.
 
I would re-buy the first four maps to be given the chance to buy 4 more.

Activision doesn't seem to want my money enough to give the game more support.
 
its activision, what do you expect.

I wonder why there wasn't another map pack. I mean there was about 10 million copies of the game sold, heaven forbid they support the game somewhat.
 
speculawyer said:
Well . . . if they just always made stuff free after a period of time, people wouldn't pay for the stuff.
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I believe the Halo maps have always sold consistently well, and those have all been free after a certain period of time (with the exception of the last pack for Halo 3).
 
speculawyer said:
Well . . . if they just always made stuff free after a period of time, people wouldn't pay for the stuff.
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COD QUAD has never been anything more than mindless fun put on a pedestal by console gamers who don't know better.

It's been a year and it's time to stop regularly playing "auto-aim at people who will never see me". When fire fights are a rare occurrence you know a shooter isn't worth playing a whole year. It's fun to run up behind people with the overpowered automatic rifles/machine guns(that are mostly identical) but are you really still wanting more of it?
 
Infinity Ward is horrible at supporting their community. Every other developer manages to not only release more content (and more frequent) but also put out some free stuff too.

Even CoD3 had more map packs.
 
ActiBlizz is sadly turning into the new EA.

That's all there really is to it. Their entire strategy with Guitar Hero and Call of Duty is testament to how greedy they've become.
 
Yeah, the COD2 maps still aren't free either. COD4 following in the same path isn't a shock.

As the game ages it becomes a huge problem for new players. If a new player picks the game up and wants to get the full online experience they have to buy the maps. If you didn't do that for COD2 the basic matchmaking was dead, but years after it came out there really wasn't a good reason to pay for them due to a shrinking player base and no further developer support. If you go ahead and buy them, then you're tossed into matchmaking with the hardcore players who basically eat new blood alive. Both ways are not enjoyable for anybody getting into the game late.

Just another reason userbase splintering is a shitty problem that many developers and publishers can't seem to wrap their heads around. They'll all make their money by launching at a decent price then making them free and rolling everyone together later in the product life. Online game communities are so hard to build and keep healthy, yet companies like Activision basically seem they like want to kill them off.

Warhawk is another game that would really benefit from going free with the current boosters and bringing everyone back together.

speculawyer said:
Well . . . if they just always made stuff free after a period of time, people wouldn't pay for the stuff.
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Yes they would. Bungie did that with the Halo maps and tons of people bought them knowing they would be free in a few months. The hardcore will always shell out the cash for them asap, the casual not so much.
 
This is kind of the norm, though, isn't it? Most pay-for DLC hasn't become free over time. I dunno if we can really shake our heads at Activision for this so much as we can praise the few that actually have made the stuff free after a while.
 
Considering that the CoD4 mappack of 3 MAPS is better than ALL OF THE MAPS in CoD:WaW.. don't fucking complain. And one of the three (Creek) is terrible too.

Also the mappack didn't come out until 6+ months after the game came out so your thread title is stupid.
 
Foil said:
Yeah, the COD2 maps still aren't free either. COD4 following in the same path isn't a shock.

As the game ages it becomes a huge problem for new players. If a new player picks the game up and wants to get the full online experience they have to buy the maps. If you didn't do that for COD2 the basic matchmaking was dead, but years after it came out there really wasn't a good reason to pay for them due to a shrinking player base and no further developer support. If you go ahead and buy them, then you're tossed into matchmaking with the hardcore players who basically eat new blood alive. Both ways are not enjoyable for anybody getting into the game late.

Just another reason userbase splintering is a shitty problem that many developers and publishers can't seem to wrap their heads around. They'll all make their money by launching at a decent price then making them free and rolling everyone together later in the product life. Online game communities are so hard to build and keep healthy, yet companies like Activision basically seem they like want to kill them off.

Warhawk is another game that would really benefit from going free with the current boosters and bringing everyone back together.



Yes they would. Bungie did that with the Halo maps and tons of people bought them knowing they would be free in a few months. The hardcore will always shell out the cash for them asap, the casual not so much.
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I agree on the community splintering, but sometimes even my favorite companies will release bullshit DLC that I simply refuse to buy.
 
No Means Nomad said:
COD QUAD has never been anything more than mindless fun put on a pedestal by console gamers who don't know better.

It's been a year and it's time to stop regularly playing "auto-aim at people who will never see me". When fire fights are a rare occurrence you know a shooter isn't worth playing a whole year. It's fun to run up behind people with the overpowered automatic rifles/machine guns(that are mostly identical) but are you really still wanting more of it?
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:lol :lol :lol :lol
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
Considering that the CoD4 mappack of 3 MAPS is better than ALL OF THE MAPS in CoD:WaW.. don't fucking complain. And one of the three (Creek) is terrible too.

Also the mappack didn't come out until 6+ months after the game came out so your thread title is stupid.
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DevelopmentArrested said:
Considering that the CoD4 mappack of 3 MAPS is better than ALL OF THE MAPS in CoD:WaW.. don't fucking complain. And one of the three (Creek) is terrible too.

Also the mappack didn't come out until 6+ months after the game came out so your thread title is stupid.
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Aren't there 4 maps in the map pack? And we shouldn't complain that we still have to pay for the maps when one of them is terrible? Great logic.
 
DarkJC said:
Aren't there 4 maps in the map pack? And we shouldn't complain that we still have to pay for the maps when one of them is terrible? Great logic.
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Is there? I've had them since launch and have only played three......... I thought I paid for four of them.
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
Considering that the CoD4 mappack of 3 MAPS is better than ALL OF THE MAPS in CoD:WaW.. don't fucking complain. And one of the three (Creek) is terrible too.

Also the mappack didn't come out until 6+ months after the game came out so your thread title is stupid.
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Yeah right... the map pack consisted of 2 terrible maps, one decent map (Broadcast) and one big room with some random crap thrown into it and made into a FFA map.

WaW maps are well designed, the only one that even remotely resembles a MW map is Dome. I loved MW, put over 20 days of play time into it, but most of those maps are essentially one map with different skins. Too many choke points, forces too much action and allows for too little strategy. WaW = complete opposite.
 
OldJadedGamer said:
Is there? I've had them since launch and have only played three......... I thought I paid for four of them.
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Not sure, I'm assuming 4 because thats what I remember from back when they were released, and thats what other people (such as the OP) are saying in this thread.
 
Bumblebeetuna said:
Yeah right... the map pack consisted of 2 terrible maps, one decent map (Broadcast) and one big room with some random crap thrown into it and made into a FFA map.

WaW maps are well designed, the only one that even remotely resembles a MW map is Dome. I loved MW, put over 20 days of play time into it, but most of those maps are essentially one map with different skins. Too many choke points, forces too much action and allows for too little strategy. WaW = complete opposite.
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Yeah because playing Seelow or Outskirts 4 on 4 is really great design. Also, spawning WITH the opposite team is a lot of fun too isn't it? Chinatown may be reskinned, but it's still better than any map in World at War.
But hey, if you enjoy camping in a far off room with Bettys stashed at the bottom and seeing 3 enemies a game.. I guess WaW's maps are perfect for you.
 
I said the maps are well designed. The spawn points are obviously not.

And yeah, Outskirts beats just about any of MW's generic maps. I will admit MW has more really, really awesome maps, but WaW has much more variety.
 
Bumblebeetuna said:
And yeah, Outskirts beats just about any of MW's generic maps.
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:lol :lol

I feel like I got ripped off with CoD: WaW's maps. The only way I continue to play that game is if they release DLC maps soon. Hopefully by January.
 
You expected them to be free? It's been clear for about 2 years now that Activision shows no signs of good faith. They will rarely attempt to make you like them with free surprises. They might continue to support games they create, but you can expect to pay for anything more you get.

On the plus side, they haven't closed down Westwood.
 
Being more of a PC Gamer (when it comes to FPS, Strategy games), I just don't believe in paying for extra maps, guns, or any of that garbage. So it doesn't affect me much. It still kinda sucks that they won't throw the millions of people that bought their game a bone.

Tell you the truth though, I don't know who I'm more irritated by. The developers or the people that actually buy the stuff.
 
Rapping Granny said:
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This. x1000. I buy my maps, but it is only when they become free that I can finally play them with randoms. So it is always good for DLC content to go free over time.
 
But if they made those maps free, then everyone would just wait until all the other map packs they made were....

Oh, right.

I don't get the love Infinity Ward is still given in all the CoD:WaW threads - their support for CoD4 was fucking abysmal. At least patch out some of the cheats!
 
Rapping Granny said:
Is Activision the new EA?
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Activision has been the new EA ever since they dropped everything in production that couldn't be "exploited annually" (their words). Seriously, there should be no surprises at their greed. Avoid them where possible.

EA on the other hand are now awesome.
 
This is a weird attitude. A lot of effort was made to keep the DLC maps from being required in playlists. They're optional. You don't have to have them.

The only thing you'll miss out on if you don't have them, is... you won't play on those maps.
 
You pay 60 fucking bucks for a damn game.....the extra maps better be free.

DLC should be part of the budget of the game development, not set aside from it.
 
Rapping Granny said:
November 5th 2007 was when COD4 released.

Activision and IW release the first and only map pack for the most popular online game this gen on April 5th 2008 consisting of 4 maps for $10.

One map is from COD2 but reskinned, one map is from the SP and the other 2 are very mediocre maps.

A year later, a new Call Of Duty game is on the shelfs and the COD4 maps are still not free.

Is Activision the new EA?

short answer: yes.
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None of the previous CoDs on console have had their maps free. Get used to it. :/
 
Firestorm said:
Activision has been horrible for a while now while EA has been awesome for a few months now.
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Not EA sports though....

Weren't the COD4 maps on sale at one point?
 
I thought MS had the last say. That's why the Portal expansion cost money though it's free on PC and that's also why L4D extras may cost you money on 360. Newell could be wrong, but he certainly made it seem like MS has final say on content price. Just saying that Activision may have little to do with it.
 
Linkup said:
I thought MS had the last say. That's why the Portal expansion cost money though it's free on PC and that's also why L4D extras may cost you money on 360. Newell could be wrong, but he certainly made it seem like MS has final say on content price. Just saying that Activision may have little to do with it.
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People always blame Microsoft when another publisher charges for DLC, but it's never Microsoft behind it when they put stuff out for free...
 
OldJadedGamer said:
Is there? I've had them since launch and have only played three......... I thought I paid for four of them.
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Not sure if you're joking but...

China Town
Creek
Broadcast

and.....

KILLHOUSE (best 1 vs. 1 map)
 
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