It's over, Google Nano Banana Pro 3 is a massive leap forward

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Image gen from now going forward, is indistinguishable from real images. The ai image texture/blur is no longer there. You can no longer trust any images going forward.

Difference between Nano Banana and Nano Banana Pro







Prompt to try out on Nano Banana

Code: 
{
  "image_specifications": {
    "format": "35mm Analog Film Photography (Canon AE-1 / Pentax K1000)",
    "dimensions": "1200x1200px",
    "aesthetic": ["Raw", "Nostalgic", "Candid", "Self-Portrait Selfie"]
  },
  "subject": {
    "pose": "Arm extended holding camera at 3/4 angle, body twisted slightly, head turned to look back at lens",
    "facial_expression_mechanics": {
      "mouth_position": "lips pressed together firmly in thin line creating suppressed smile, one corner slightly raised",
      "eye_mechanics": "looking sideways up at camera with mischievous doe-eyed quality, visible gleam",
      "eyebrow_position": "one eyebrow slightly raised, creating playful asymmetry"
    },
    "skin_rendering": "Natural texture with visible pores on nose, slight flush on cheeks from being outside, freckles scattered naturally",
    "editing_constraint": "Face unaltered, authentic film capture"
  },
  "attire": {
    "top": "Oversized vintage denim jacket, slightly faded, worn on shoulders",
    "accessories": "Simple silver hoop earrings, no other jewelry",
    "hair": "Shoulder-length wavy brown hair with natural highlights, slightly windswept and imperfect"
  },
  "environment": {
    "setting": "Urban street corner at golden hour, brick building wall behind",
    "primary_prop": "Red brick wall with visible mortar lines and slight weathering",
    "background": {
      "visibility": "Soft focus with natural film bokeh",
      "bokeh": "Swirly organic bokeh from vintage lens",
      "ambient_elements": "Blurred street lamp, out-of-focus pedestrians passing, natural urban texture"
    }
  },
  "lighting": {
    "type": "Natural golden hour sunlight from side",
    "effects": [
      "Warm 3200K glow on face creating golden rim light on hair",
      "Soft shadows on one side of face, natural gradient",
      "Slight lens flare from sun creating authentic analog warmth"
    ]
  },
  "visual_style": {
    "color_palette": "Warm and slightly saturated, amber tones with lifted blacks characteristic of consumer film",
    "texture": "Pronounced organic film grain throughout, especially visible in shadows",
    "lens_characteristics": "35mm f/1.8 lens with slight vignetting, natural chromatic aberration on edges, slight softness from handheld selfie focus"
  },
  "negative_prompt": {
    "subject_blocks": "overly posed, perfect smile, dead eyes, flawless over-smoothed skin, heavy makeup, symmetrical perfection, professional model pose",
    "environment_blocks": "studio background, perfectly clean surfaces, sterile setting, obvious staging",
    "technical_blocks": "low resolution, digital perfection, no film grain, sharp modern lens, bad anatomy, distorted proportions",
    "authenticity_blocks": "no imperfections, perfect focus, professional lighting, tripod-stable composition"
  }
}
 
Steve Brule GIF by MOODMAN
 
Yeah they look much more like real photos. There are still some giveaways - like the iron maiden text not being flipped in one of the images but it no longer has an AI sheen.
 
Confused Arrested Development GIF
 
Wait what the fuck. I 100% thought this was a satire thread. I definitely did not believe that google had a service called nana banana.
 
This looks like its literally designed to spread false information 🤣

It just made influencer photos look more like real Influencers, now why would Google want that
 
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This is so, so dangerous and nothing good will come of it.

The potential for destabilising accepted truths is now probably unstoppable.
 
Dr.D00p said:
This is so, so dangerous and nothing good will come of it.

The potential for destabilising accepted truths is now probably unstoppable.
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It brings civilisation back to before photography was a thing. How do you trust news of events you do not experience yourself?
 
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Some of it is really good. When consistency between generated images is fully achieved, and you gain more control of the editing (namely through selection), we really enter a new phase.
 
Panajev2001a said:
It brings civilisation back to before photography was a thing. How do you trust news of events you do not experience yourself?
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Trusted print sources, community, or you just hung people based on vibes.

Thinking about it, news was news then because it could travel around withstanding truth checks of many receivers along the way. If the news made it to you, it probably made it because it's true.

Now, we have the short circuit situation, so it will play out a bit chaotically. I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hara-Kiri Rock. I need scissors! 61!
 
Majima Everywhere System said:
Thinking about it, news was news then because it could travel around withstanding truth checks of many receivers along the way. If the news made it to you, it probably made it because it's true.
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Mate, people were absolutely, positively sure about gods living on small mountains, dragons and ghosts haunting the forest near the village, and Mother Mary appearing in grottos just outside town until yesterday.
I mean, news that Earth is flat made it to me quite a few times, and it's still probably not true.
 
I'm honestly unimpressed by Nano Banana because the results seems to be just overfitting and data rescuing with collaging:



The base pictures probably exist somewhere on the web, but they will never publish their data set.
 
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Draugoth said:
I'm honestly unimpressed by Nano Banana because the results seems to be just overfitting and data rescuing with collaging:



The base pictures probably exist somewhere on the web, but they will never publish their data set.
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Because that's not how LLM's generally work.

In this case there's a really good chance that user is full of shit and they actually asked the AI to show a zoomed out view of that location while uploading the photo.
 
Draugoth said:
I'm honestly unimpressed by Nano Banana because the results seems to be just overfitting and data rescuing with collaging:



The base pictures probably exist somewhere on the web, but they will never publish their data set.
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People looking the wrong way lmao

It still looks fake, but much better than older models
 
Panajev2001a said:
It brings civilisation back to before photography was a thing. How do you trust news of events you do not experience yourself?
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Agree. You cannot trust audio, video or photography now.
I imagine that various verified account systems will be tried so that news providers can attempt to share guaranteed authentic posts and so on. The whole thing collapses if hacked.

It's never occurred to me before, but imagine a future where physical newspapers return in a big way because the scale of print production would make creating a fake newspaper difficult. I don't think it's likely, but could a return to physicality work?

In direct response to your question, I suspect that plenty of people will just let their prejudices decide what is true and what's not, as already happens now.
 
Mr Reasonable said:
Agree. You cannot trust audio, video or photography now.
I imagine that various verified account systems will be tried so that news providers can attempt to share guaranteed authentic posts and so on. The whole thing collapses if hacked.

It's never occurred to me before, but imagine a future where physical newspapers return in a big way because the scale of print production would make creating a fake newspaper difficult. I don't think it's likely, but could a return to physicality work?

In direct response to your question, I suspect that plenty of people will just let their prejudices decide what is true and what's not, as already happens now.
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I don't think physical print will come back because how do you know the photos in the print are not ai?

I do think, "Not AI/Not Made With AI" is going to be a big, big thing soon, with references and direct links to the original sources.
 
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IlGialloMondadori said:
I don't think physical print will come back because how do you know the photos in the print are not ai?

I do think, "Not AI/Not Made With AI" is going to be a big, big thing soon, with references and direct links to the original sources.
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I don't think it'd come back either, but the biggest problem with AI is that it'll give non-news sources the ability to create things that look more like news than ever before.

Previously if you wanted to claim that presidential/prime ministerial candidate X wanted to melt down babies to heat the swimming pools of the elites then you'd struggle to create 100% convincing footage of it.

This isn't something that NBC or the BBC or even Fox* would want to do.

Essentially the news consumer will have to put their faith in a broadcaster/publisher's process for gathering and verifying news.

But, in the future it'll be possible to create entire shows that look identical to the output of those stations with the agenda bad actors may want to promote.

So, the delivery platform will become the thing which could defeat AI fake news. As long as you can trust the publisher/broadcaster. Essentially all 3rd party digital news systems are possibly problematic. Even the news channel's website could be hacked. Which is why I mused that a newspaper - the most analogue of news delivery methods, difficult to produce at scale, and practically impossible to eclipse every other copy of the paper in circulation, and impossible to hack (once printed) - could be a reliable source.

Of course newspapers get it wrong, or even are sued for bad practice. But, I don't think you don't see distortions and falsehoods that are at the extreme end of what's online and believed by too many people.

Just a musing, not setting up for a bit debate or argument about it, you understand.

*Probably
 
efyu_lemonardo said:
But surely the benefits of AI outweigh the risks, amirite?
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Depends who you are. If you stand to gain from more centralisation of power, money, influence it's incredible.

For everyone else, you get to tell a computer to make funny cartoons for you, destroy the environment and maybe lose your job.

So, I guess it depends.
 
Mr Reasonable said:
It's never occurred to me before, but imagine a future where physical newspapers return in a big way because the scale of print production would make creating a fake newspaper difficult. I don't think it's likely, but could a return to physicality work?
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No, for a number of reasons.
Literacy levels have plummeted.
People are less used to reading in general.
A picture is worth a thousand words, and a video is worth millions.
The current level of written articles online is abysmal right now. Almost everything is badly-written propaganda, and there's zero incentive to even strive to make it better.
News outlets are too polarized. The priority is to express an opinion, sell a narrative, and demonize your opponents. Accountability is dead. There is nothing to gain from standing for a truth that will be rewritten shortly anyway, and that most people will forget in a week at best. Most people have already forgotten a lot of details about COVID, supposedly the most significant and impactful event of their lives.
The world is too complex anyway. Things change constantly, and uncertainty is inevitable. Even the most reliable outlet is constantly a step away from a spectacular blunder that will make it lose all credibility.
Lastly, even if everyone was literate and all the press was reliable, the written word is not sufficient anymore to get enough information on any issue. No written article will ever be complete without audio and video references. And those will be more and more contaminated by AI.
 
Mr Reasonable said:
Agree. You cannot trust audio, video or photography now.
I imagine that various verified account systems will be tried so that news providers can attempt to share guaranteed authentic posts and so on. The whole thing collapses if hacked.

It's never occurred to me before, but imagine a future where physical newspapers return in a big way because the scale of print production would make creating a fake newspaper difficult. I don't think it's likely, but could a return to physicality work?

In direct response to your question, I suspect that plenty of people will just let their prejudices decide what is true and what's not, as already happens now.
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If newspapers came back why would printing AI written content be impossible?
 
Mr Reasonable said:
Depends who you are. If you stand to gain from more centralisation of power, money, influence it's incredible.

For everyone else, you get to tell a computer to make funny cartoons for you, destroy the environment and maybe lose your job.

So, I guess it depends.
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AI companies "AI will take your job, it's crazy scary and I'm so scared, maybe it'll kill us all. Everyone, sign up for it"

It's insane people even listen to this garbage. Fuck these companies and fuck AI.
 
I took some lower res videogame screenshot and told it to turn it to real life and it would change some things for the better like the hand and face but left other things like low res texture, texture stretching, and sharp polygons in place. Told it to create new icons to match an icon set and it didn't keep the look and feel.

Not really impressed in my short tests and for what I would use it for which is to augment something I already have. It's great at conjuring new things and modifying within that context, however.
 
Despite things getting much better quickly and being extremely impressive, I still expected it to take til the end of the decade for that last few percent in mimicking reality to be achieved consistently and with ease, to the point there'd no telling.

But with Nano Banana 3 I think it's probably <2yrs away, just a few more model iterations.

It'd be quite apt given the first photo was taken nearly 200yrs, you had a good run 'photo evidence'...


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~ Photo Evidence ~
1827 - 2027

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I expect though that video will still take quite some time to be effectively perfect as temporal stability and consistency are hard; and even harder is mimicking lots of small things we pick up on instinctively in motion.
 
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New rule for all news/politics/sports/everything

Unless you were physically there watching with your own eyes, it didn't happen.
 
GymWolf said:
You need a wall of text of uber detailed promt to generate 2 pics of a chick?

Yeah i'm never gonna use this thing :lollipop_grinning_sweat:
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I'm not sure if you're serious but you only need a line. But some people want to control stuff in the background, foreground, lighting and artificial cinematography, posture, face, body, clothing, etc. so the prompts end up long.
 
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