Voldemort killed his parents.Fuzzy said:Why do you hate you-know-who so much?
Voldemort killed his parents.Fuzzy said:Why do you hate you-know-who so much?
Speevy said::lol at Microsoft ahead of Sony in Japan.
Dalthien said:Sony PS3:
Hardware = 238,007 - through Dec 10/06 (MC)
Microsoft X360:
Hardware = 213,412 - through Dec 10/06 (MC)
_leech_ said:Huh?
Forgotten Ancient said:PS3: 280,977
Wii: 2,250,172
Holy effing dung.
Mithos Yggdrasill said:Oh man...a 1:10 difference is too much for the PS3. Sony has to produce more PS3 first, then low this damn price and finally ship some Killer-App.
Forgotten Ancient said:PS3: 280,977
Wii: 2,250,172
Holy effing dung.
Well, it's obviously missing some games - Amored Core 4 for example..Forgotten Ancient said:PS3: 280,977
Wii: 2,250,172
Holy effing dung.
dirtmonkey37 said:Where's LP?
Both games released the same week. AC4(PS3) was #26 and Lost Planet (X360) was #28 on Media Create that week. Unfortunately, MC only provides data for the Top 10, and Famitsu, which does provide data for the Top 30, only did a Top 20 chart for two weeks during the holidays, and only did a Top 30 for that 2-week period combined during that time because of the holidays. Neither game made the either or the Top 20 charts or the Top 30 combined chart for that 2-week period. So I don't have any accurate data for either game.u_neek said:Well, it's obviously missing some games - Amored Core 4 for example..
Dalthien said:Charts updated again for this past week.
dirtmonkey37 said:How come you didn't update the 360 one? And why didn't you update the PS3's tie ratio. I think it's higher by now
Dalthien said:I'm not about to start updating the chart with random guesses for each game. The purpose of this chart is to present the latest Famitsu/Media Create data that I have available to me.
This is old and boring. We all know that you represent one of the factions in the war on how best to count sales, but really at this point, you and everyone else who feels the need to state thier opinion on how best to count sales are beating a rotting horse carcass. We get it already. You think your way is best and can't help but to blather on about it whenever someone shows a differing opinion. Now shut up about it and get on with your life.ioi said:No, because that would be silly.
It's better to put Genji sales at 9k because you know "exactly" (according to one estimate from one tracking firm) how much it sold that week rather than put it at the more realistic figure of 60k which it is likely to have sold by now, and not even bother with sales of Armored Core, Motorstorm etc and try to paint a more complete and realistic picture.
PS3 total software sales are more like 580k for a tie ratio of just under 1.
This thread is misleading.
bmf said:This is old and boring. We all know that you represent one of the factions in the war on how best to count sales, but really at this point, you and everyone else who feels the need to state thier opinion on how best to count sales are beating a rotting horse carcass. We get it already. You think your way is best and can't help but to blather on about it whenever someone shows a differing opinion. Now shut up about it and get on with your life.
cvxfreak said:Then make your own thread.
Yeah - it would be silly. As you quoted yourself, the purpose of these charts is to keep a compilation of the latest Famitsu/Media Create data that we come across. Nothing more - nothing less. Filling them up with guesses and estimates sort of defeats that purpose, because then it is no longer a compilation of Famitsu/Media Create data.ioi said:No, because that would be silly.
ioi said:I give up trying to have a reasonable conversation with you people
So you're obviously all happy with the data as it is then? In your honest opinion, this is the best possible list that could be made of how well X360 / Wii / PS3 title have sold in Japan? You obviously think it's flawless and perfectly representitive.
soundwave05 said:Whoever takes Japan will get a lot of support from Japanese 3rd parties, and almost by default, a good number of worthwhile titles in those said genres.
DarkRage said:Looking at the numbers we can see that the impact of Japanese market is not that big for those games that have good acceptance in Western countries. Yes, it is another factor, but it is not the most relevant. Figures in Europe and of course in USA are mucho more relevant for gaining support, even from japanese companies.
the girl next door said:so 2/5 of PS3 owners didn't get a game with it? what are they using it for? the internet??? *is baffled*
i agree. japanese development is still very important, and as capcom has shown a japanese developer can make a product predominatly for a non-japanese market, whereas i can't think of any non-japanese developers who have done the reverse.soundwave05 said:Every system that has won Japan has gotten a lion's share of Japanese 3rd party support. I don't see this changing any time soon either, especailly with the Japanese market on the rebound.
i doubt br is that big a factor, besides we're talking about really bad sw sales. ps3's total sw sales in japan are nothing short of terrible. ps3 cannot become a machine for only major games, it needs to be able to shift a decent amount of units for a whole range of third party sw. sony has a lot of work ahead of them.theBishop said:when PS2 launched, there were all kinds of reports that Japanese consoles were being used as DVD players.
Blu-Ray FTW?
Blu-Ray FTW?
It's better to put Genji sales at 9k because you know "exactly" (according to one estimate from one tracking firm) how much it sold that week rather than put it at the more realistic figure of 60k which it is likely to have sold by now
There is no doubt in my mind that both formats will fail. Maybe one (most likely bluray) will become the next laser disc with a cult following, but none will be a mainstream success.DCharlie said:you'd need stores to be actually bothering to stock Bluray disks for that to happen - two or three are and it's an incredibly token effort. Baring a total relaunch of Bluray and HDDVD , both formats are pretty much dead in Japan.
... joke post... ?
The problem with Blu-Ray and HD-DVD (and even the PS3 to an extent) is in Japan, HDTV penetration also is not that big.
116,000 Mobile Suit Gundam: Target in Sight (Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire) (Bandai) (11/11/06) rounded off through Jan 14/07 (MC)
my feelings exactly. the best they can do is laser disc levels, but there's nothing wrong with that. laserdisc was a decent success with a good library of titles that satisfied the AV enthusiast market until something came along that satisfied everyone.Blimblim said:There is no doubt in my mind that both formats will fail. Maybe one (most likely bluray) will become the next laser disc with a cult following, but none will be a mainstream success.
ioi said:The figures in this thread are massively incomplete
I don't want to be part of "the argument", but VGCharts data isn't Famitsu data, or Media Create data, or data from anywhere else in particular; it's a collection of estimations based on those sources, others, and patterns.oldie-newbie said:I think that this link (providing Famitsu numbers) until 07 january 2007 could help a lot
http://www.vgcharts.org/japweekly.php?date=39089
clashfan said:Blue Dragon at around 120K is pretty good. I wonder if it can reach the MS goal of 200K? I know Sakaguchi was hoping to sell 100K.
9,543 Genji: Kamui Souran (Genji: Days of the Blade) (Sony) (11/11/06) - through Nov 12/06gconsole said:Okamoto am die.