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Japanese Cinema Recommendations?

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rareside

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After watching Battle Royale (again) tonight with some friends, I realized I need to watch some more Japanese movies.

Was wondering if anyone has good recommendations...

I generally don't like anime, although I can enjoy it from time to time. Other movies I've already seen are some Kurosawa flicks, and a movie I watched called Ping Pong when I was in Japan. I definitely want to check out Casshern, but other than that I have no idea what's good out there.

Also, this can extend to any other Asian cinema as well. I'm just really bored and have too much time on my hands, so I wanna watch some good [foreign] movies.
 

Matlock

Banned
Happiness of the Katakuris


Preemptive STFU to shuri, because I don't like you chasing me around with the recommendation of the Korean movie it was based off of. :-|
 

Chrono

Banned
Since this thread is about japanese/asian cinema, I might as well ask this here: How are the other Kurusawa movies in this collection compare to Seven Samurai (which is included)? That's the only kurosawa movie I've seen and I didn't like it but I'm still considering that set.

rareside said:
I definitely want to check out Casshern, but other than that I have no idea what's good out there.

If you don't like anime don't watch Casshern. Actually just don't watch (or buy :p) Casshern...
 

nitewulf

Member
recently made a list for my brother, who's in asia right now to pick up whichever DVDs off of the list he could find, i'll paste it here, i'll star the ones that i am recommending to you:

general asian:
6ixtynin9
infernal affairs*
yi yi
joint security area
old boy*
so close*
PTU
fudoh
cure
sonatine*
fireworks* (hana-bi)
high and low*
happiness of the katakuris
running out of time
john woo stuff
ong bak*
last life in the universe*

WKW movies:
chungking express*
2046*
in the mood for love*
fallen angels*
happy together*
days of being wild*

zhang yimou movies:
the road home
farewell my concubine*
shanghai triad*
ju dou
not one less*
raise the red lantern*
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Infernal Affairs, out of Hong Kong.
A story between a mole in the police department and an undercover cop. Their objectives are the same: to find out who is the mole, and who is the cop.
Watch it before Scorsese remakes it... ignore the DVD cover art too, it's absolutely out of left field and doesn't represent the film at all.
 

Dead

well not really...yet
nitewulf said:
recently made a list for my brother, who's in asia right now to pick up whichever DVDs off of the list he could find, i'll paste it here, i'll star the ones that i am recommending to you:

general asian:
6ixtynin9
infernal affairs*
yi yi
joint security area
old boy*
so close*
PTU
fudoh
cure
sonatine*
fireworks* (hana-bi)
high and low*
happiness of the katakuris
running out of time
john woo stuff
ong bak*
last life in the universe*

WKW movies:
chungking express*
2046*
in the mood for love*
fallen angels*
happy together*
days of being wild*

zhang yimou movies:
the road home
farewell my concubine*
shanghai triad*
ju dou
not one less*
raise the red lantern*

those are all great japanese movies ;)

Heres the last movie I picked up on DVD, which I definately reccomend: Kiyoshi Kurosawas Cure. Heres the amazon review:
In the hands of director Kiyoshi Kurosawa, a serial-killer movie is not merely a serial-killer movie. Cure doesn't so much scream and shout as drive the audience slowly crazy--much like Kurosawa's subsequent creepfests, Seance and Pulse (a.k.a. Kairo). Koji Yakusho, the happy-foot husband in Shall We Dance, plays a weary detective on a baffling murder case, which paradoxically becomes even more puzzling as the solution begins to emerge. Kurosawa's use of empty spaces, and his uncanny command of the soundtrack (the eerie collection of hums and drones would win David Lynch's approval) makes for a shivery experience... though not one interested in resolving itself in a conventional manner. And why should it? At some terrible point in this movie you realize that catching the bad guy isn't going to make Kurosawa's poisoned world any cleaner or safer. Stick with the director's elliptical style, and Cure will leave dread in its tainted wake

I myself have been trying to dabble in foreign flicks more and more recently. Its probably adding more expenses to my budget than I should allow, but whatever :p
 

nitewulf

Member
Chrono said:
Since this thread is about japanese/asian cinema, I might as well ask this here: How are the other Kurusawa movies in this collection compared to Seven Samurai (which is included)? That's the only kurosawa movie I've seen and I didn't like it but I'm still considering that set.
stick with the animes. give it another try when you are 20+
 

Dead

well not really...yet
guess I shouldve done more than glance at his post :lol sorry

If you follow nitewulfs Wong Kar Wai reccs, this came out some time ago:

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http://www.kino.com/video/item.php?product_id=823

and theres the fantastic criterion of in the mood for love.
 
Chrono said:
Since this thread is about japanese/asian cinema, I might as well ask this here: How are the other Kurusawa movies in this collection compared to Seven Samurai (which is included)? That's the only kurosawa movie I've seen and I didn't like it but I'm still considering that set.

Well, I think Seven Samurai is the worst of the four. Yojinbo and Sanjuro certainly are lighter and more fun to watch.
 

Chrono

Banned
SpoonyBard said:
Well, I think Seven Samurai is the worst of the four. Yojinbo and Sanjuro centainly are lighter and more fun to watch.

Thanks. I'm getting the Kurosawa set and the Wong Kar Wai one Dead posted.
 

Jim Bowie

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quadriplegicjon said:
i just saw twilight samurai tonight.. and it was great.

Word.

Go see Ju-On.

Also, see Fireworks, Dolls, and Kikujiro, since you liked BR. Remember the teacher, Kitano? He's the director of the aforementioned three.

Also, see everything you FUCKING can directed by Takashi Miike. Ichi the Killer, Happiness of the Katakuris, Gozu, Audition, just to name a few.

And, I can't stress it enough, people. Shark Skin Man and Peach Hip Girl! It's one of my favorite Japanese films- awesome acting, dialogue, story, and soundtrack. It's really good, and you could probably get it at your local Blockbuster.
 

nitewulf

Member
point of note, most of the kurosawa and WKW movies could be rented from your local blockbuster. i see no point in blindly buying boxsets if you're unsure.
 

bjork

Member
Dunno if they're japanese or chinese, but:

Fighter in the Wind

Love on a Diet

Anna in Kung-Fu Land

Magic Kitchen

Only the first is really good, the rest are so bad that they're great.
 

Jim Bowie

Member
nitewulf said:
point of note, most of the kurosawa and WKW movies could be rented from your local blockbuster. i see no point in blindly buying boxsets if you're unsure.

I pretty much thought that was a given for the Kurosawa masterpieces. A shitty version of Ran is practically a video store staple. The WKW movies, I'm not so sure about... WKW is a little more obscure, don't you think? To those not in the know, anyhow.
 

nitewulf

Member
Jim Bowie said:
I pretty much thought that was a given for the Kurosawa masterpieces. A shitty version of Ran is practically a video store staple. The WKW movies, I'm not so sure about... WKW is a little more obscure, don't you think? To those not in the know, anyhow.
:lol , actually i dont rent from blockbuster so i wouldnt know. but few times i did rent from there i noticed the kurosawa movies, and since chungking express sort of became a pop-culture trademark i assume it'd be widely available as well.
still i cant recommend anyone who didnt like 7 samurai to actually buy a kurosawa box set. sure sanjuro and yojimbo are accessible and funny, but they stand far apart from 7 samurai in quality. only rashomon tops it.
 

Dead

well not really...yet
Man I havent rented a movie in years @_@. I blind buy A LOT, and have rarely let myself down heh
 

karasu

Member
For strictly Japanese films, I'd recommend getting everything by Sabu.

Monday
Unlucky Monkey
Hard Luck hero
Drive
etc etc

Also try these ones by Toshiaki Toyoda:

Blue Spring (Aoi Haru)
Pornostar

random :

Gohatto
Kikujiro no natsu
Messengers
Versus
Azumi
Jam Films
Casshern
Ping Pong
Stereo Future
Laundry

P.S - Save for Audition, I hate Miike.
 

Stele

Holds a little red book
Dan said:
ignore the DVD cover art too, it's absolutely out of left field and doesn't represent the film at all.
Probably would have made the movie more entertaining if it did.
 

Prince

Member
Go (fast drama/comedy/romance)
Blue Spring (very good high school drama with excellent rock soundtrack)
Twilight Samurai (slow paced but good samurai movie)
Ping Pong (from the anime)
Kikujiro (comedy/drama)
Mibu Gishi Den (aka When the Last Sword Is Drawn) - epic samurai movie
Kakuto (hip comedy)
All About Lily Chou-Chou (strange but beautifully shot movie)
Versus (very funny and actionpacked zombie movie)


those are all pretty recent Japanese movies that it tought were good.
 

speedpop

Has problems recognising girls
Again, definitely everything by Wong Kar Wai.

And I second Hana-Bi by Takeshi Kitano.

Also if you can track it down, this Korean flick; Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring again. Might not appeal to everyone's tastes but the cinematography in it is beautiful.
 

Draff

Member
I enjoy Takeshi Kitano movies as well.
The most recent movie I saw of his was Zatoichi which was pretty good.
 

speedpop

Has problems recognising girls
Draff said:
The most recent movie I saw of his was Zatoichi which was pretty good.
Yeah I watched Zatoichi only a few weeks ago and I must say it was good seeing his take on the legendary "blind" samurai. Took a bit of time to adjust to viewing it in that timeline as well as the missing Joe Hisaishi score (not that I minded one bit, but Kitano-Hisaishi love just gotta stay there :lol). The most enjoyable thing that I liked was even though it was trying to be traditional, there was still trademark Kitano humour that is in all his films. Can't really define his humour because it is somewhat silly but very funny.
 

Jim Bowie

Member
Draff said:
The most recent movie I saw of his was Zatoichi which was pretty good.

Ah! I forgot completely about Zatoichi! It was very, very good, and full of good imagery. A solid Takeshi Kitano film.
 

sykoex

Lost all credibility.
I could understand how people like Versus, but I was so disapointed when it was like 2/3 into the movie and they were still in that forest.
 

Amneziak

aka The Hound
Some good slice-of-life, smaller movies:

Tampopo (aka Dandelion)
Shall We Dance? (dear god NOT the Richard Gere/JLo remake)

These two are Chinese, but you should see them nonetheless:
Shower
Happy Times

As for Kurosawa, I think Yojimbo makes an excellent introduction to his films.
 

shuri

Banned
Matlock said:
Happiness of the Katakuris


Preemptive STFU to shuri, because I don't like you chasing me around with the recommendation of the Korean movie it was based off of. :-|

I recommend A Quiet Family, the movie that Hapiness was based on. It's a much more coherent movie.
 

rareside

Member
Thanks for all the recommendations... ordered a few DVD's from your lists from Amazon. (happiness of the katakuris, sonatine, and zatoichi). Gonna check out Blockbuster as well... I wish it wasn't such an expensive hobby. Each DVD is about $25!

Are there any well-known stores that usually carry a good selection of foreign movies? I realize it won't be any cheaper, but I visited a Tower records the other day and they had a [weak] foreign selection. I'm guessing my best bet will be the internet though.

Wanted to pick up Old Boy from Amazon, but they didn't have it :(
 

nitewulf

Member
rareside said:
Thanks for all the recommendations... ordered a few DVD's from your lists from Amazon. (happiness of the katakuris, sonatine, and zatoichi). Gonna check out Blockbuster as well... I wish it wasn't such an expensive hobby. Each DVD is about $25!

Are there any well-known stores that usually carry a good selection of foreign movies? I realize it won't be any cheaper, but I visited a Tower records the other day and they had a [weak] foreign selection. I'm guessing my best bet will be the internet though.

Wanted to pick up Old Boy from Amazon, but they didn't have it :(
i believe overstock.com is a bit cheaper than amazon. hkflix.com has a great selection of all the asian movies, but if you order from them, make sure it is for the correct region.
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
If you're at all interested in foreign film, Asian or otherwise, forego a couple of purchases and get yourself a region-free DVD player that does proper PAL conversion. There's simply no reason to be shackled solely to US-released discs when the entire world can be available to you. Overseas DVDs are often better quality, have more extras, are released earlier (this also applies to US-made films, in many cases), and there are hundreds upon hundreds of worthwhile titles that'll never see the light of day here.

Also if you can track it down, this Korean flick; Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring again. Might not appeal to everyone's tastes but the cinematography in it is beautiful.

I'll second this. It's a very meditative experience, with very little dialogue, long stretches of near inactivity and a strong moral that ties it all together. Really an exquisitely beautiful film, and despite that it may sound dull in description, I'd almost guarantee you'll be sucked in soon enough.

Spring's director, Ki-duk Kim, has a newer movie that came out recently called Bin-jip (3-Iron). It's a similarly paced story, but I thought this one was a bit more engaging from the get go. A young man spends his time breaking into homes while their owners are out, sleeping in their beds, eating the food and whatnot, but he always "repays" them by fixing broken appliances, cleaning, etc. He finds an abused woman in one home, and she latches onto him, eventually accompanying him on these break-ins. The last half hour takes on an increasingly unusual tone, leading up to a truly wonderful conclusion.

I should probably mention, too, that neither of the two main characters speak at all during the entire film, save for a single line at the very end. No explanation is ever given as to why this is, but I found myself thinking less about this and simply wanting more to see where the plot would lead. Highly recommended.

Kiyoshi Kurosawa's stuff is generally very good: Pulse/Kairo, Cure, Charisma, and Doppleganger (this last one is quite a style shift). I'd like to see Bright Future, but haven't gotten a chance yet.

Definitely look into some of "Beat" Takeshi Kitano's movies if the yakuza genre interests you, but be prepared for more focus on the... in-between time instead of shootouts, although there are plenty of violent flashes. Sonatine's my favorite, but unfortunately the only good DVD out there is stuck in a two-pack with his so-so Zatoichi movie.

Outside of Audition, Miike's stuff is waaay too freak-out bizarre for my tastes; Zhang Yimou and Wong Kar-Wai are almost always amazing (was disappointed with 2046, though); Oldboy and Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance are, IMO, essential, and on the wildly opposite end of the spectrum, All About Lily Chou-Chou should be a must-see. Um, what else... Three Extremes was pretty good, but I didn't care for Park's short; "Dumplings" was crazy good, tho, and I'm going to have to pick up the extended DVD sometime.

Originally Posted by nitewulf:
6ixtynin9

Just watched that last night! Really enjoyed it, flaws, low budget and all. Now I'm quite psyched for Last Life in the Universe to come out in a few weeks. Commentary w/ Christopher Doyle = fuck yes.
 

shuri

Banned
order your dvds from yesasia.com. They are much cheaper. And Matlock, did you know that Happiness was a remake of a korean movie named The Quiet family?
 
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