Makoto-Yuki
Banned
no shit.
did anyone really expect Intel to just swan in and compete with Nvidia/AMD?
it will take them a few years to go up against AMD nevermind Nvidia.
did anyone really expect Intel to just swan in and compete with Nvidia/AMD?
it will take them a few years to go up against AMD nevermind Nvidia.
Elektro Demon
Banned
Well, yeah. I thought that this was common knowledge.
You can't all of a sudden make a high end gpu and expect to compete with the companies that have been in that specific niche for years and years and have invested countless billions in rnd through out the years.
You can't all of a sudden make a high end gpu and expect to compete with the companies that have been in that specific niche for years and years and have invested countless billions in rnd through out the years.
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GamingKaiju
Member
Intel have never had luck in the gaming gpu market so it makes sense for them to concentrate on compute cards that will work in tandem with their servers but they'll be years behind Nvida and AMD on that scene too.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Aside from Leonidas who is expecting anything remotely good from Intel right now?
alabtrosMyster
Member
There's a metric ton of good hardware YouTubers out there, why jayz 2 cents?
But yeah, he's not wrong on this one.
But yeah, he's not wrong on this one.
alabtrosMyster
Member
For me all I want is their igpu to be good enough to run complex shader based CRT filters in emulators, so I don't have to put a very low end card in everything for no other reason (i.e. GeForce 1030 or some old 1 or 2 gb Radeon card that I can't be bothered to remember the number).
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
great channel, hater
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LordOfChaos
Member
I think few were expecting the first two efforts to set the gaming world on fire, among reasonable people.
It is first and foremost an effort to grab more of the silicon compute BoM, Swan has been clear on this. It just so happens that if you make a good GPU for exascale compute, you also have an architecture that can be applied to gaming. It'll take some time, I expect, for both the architecture and drivers to evolve to be truly good at it in the dedicated GPU space, but if Intel sets itself to it and doesn't give up, I have no reason to think they won't have a suitable product eventually.
It is first and foremost an effort to grab more of the silicon compute BoM, Swan has been clear on this. It just so happens that if you make a good GPU for exascale compute, you also have an architecture that can be applied to gaming. It'll take some time, I expect, for both the architecture and drivers to evolve to be truly good at it in the dedicated GPU space, but if Intel sets itself to it and doesn't give up, I have no reason to think they won't have a suitable product eventually.
LordOfChaos
Member
The story of Raja and Vega will maybe never be known, but this possibility is worth considering, that 2/3rds of his Vega team were taken for Navi, leaving him fuming and taking blame for a shitty product.
Rumour suggests AMD redirected 2/3 of Raja's Vega engineering team to Navi for Sony's PS5
There are fresh rumours flying around today suggesting that AMD deliberately sacrificed the RX Vega cards as two thirds of the GPU engineering team responsible was allegedly diverted to Navi and the console-based semi-custom unit... against Raja Koduri's wishes.So, did those bloody games consoles ru
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Ellery
Member
The story of Raja and Vega will maybe never be known, but this possibility is worth considering, that 2/3rds of his Vega team were taken for Navi, leaving him fuming and taking blame for a shitty product.
Rumour suggests AMD redirected 2/3 of Raja's Vega engineering team to Navi for Sony's PS5
There are fresh rumours flying around today suggesting that AMD deliberately sacrificed the RX Vega cards as two thirds of the GPU engineering team responsible was allegedly diverted to Navi and the console-based semi-custom unit... against Raja Koduri's wishes.So, did those bloody games consoles ru
True. I am not completely familar with his story and obviously impossible to tell what happened actually (as an outsider), but I will judge it based on how well Intel GPUs (for gaming) are doing in the next 3 years and how well AMD GPUs are doing in the next 3 years compared to the 5-6 years before Navi.
Being honest I don't expect too much of Intel. Even when the news first came out that Intel is working on dedicated GPUs I never thought of them as real challengers to Nvidia.
LordOfChaos
Member
Yeah, how Intel GPUs shape up in the next few years will probably be his biggest tell in the eyes of people. It's worth keeping in mind he was behind some good products before Vega though, so I think it's maybe unfair for so many gamers to single handedly blame him for Vega, if it is true that he was severely underresourced.
alabtrosMyster
Member
Very much so, I disconnected when I watched his video about AIO placement... He has no method to his madness and he is mean to his audience, not only that, but he is wrong in the way he measures heat output.
Just go to gamersnexus for that kind of testing, among others, Jesus himself runs the test there.