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[Froli]

He got to the age of 80.. that's fortunate enough for the majority of most people.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

What if cancer (which kills everyone) is not the "justice" John Mccain deserves?

What if it's like he needs to survive this so he can feel the hurt he's caused many of you?

How does John Mccain dying of cancer further the cause you say he opposed?

The cancer isn't justice, it just makes for good irony. Anyone believing he'd change his tune were he to survive is lying to themselves, as is anyone believing that him getting cancer makes his participation in trying to make the lives of millions of people worse suddenly not matter.

 

[Regulus Tera]

A good thread for everyone to consider when the pieces about his outstanding service come up in the following days: https://twitter.com/eoinhiggins_/status/887836300350566400

 

[plagiarize]

I'll reiterate what I said earlier. I hope this is the source of his behavior and views of late. I hope that if he recovers, he does some deep introspection and reflection on the importance of accessible and affordable healthcare. I hope this inspires him to do good and change from stripping tens of millions of healthcare. And instead strive towards stabilization and improvement of the system.

If he does that, I'll be glad to restore my respect for him and even apologize for some of my sentiments here.

Anything short, then oh well about him.

I hope so too. Then some good may come from this. But I wouldn't count on it of course.

 

[Psychoward]

Ironic that many of those taking this as an opportunity to slam McCain most likely idolise Biden yet lack even an ounce of his grace and humility.

But you know, let the angst flow.

Biden is a politician who has stable healthcare.

 

[Hierophant]

Ironic that many of those taking this as an opportunity to slam McCain most likely idolise Biden yet lack even an ounce of his grace and humility.

But you know, let the angst flow.

"My uncle was diagnosed with an easily curable disease in any other country but I gotta pay out the asshole here and maybe can't even afford it, I am not sad about John McCain contracting an illness"

Yes, this viewpoint is angsty, definitely.

 

[Ithil]

That's terrible news. Politics are irrelevant when it comes to things like this, it's just a shitty thing to have happen to you even at an old age.

 

[HStallion]

Ironic that many of those taking this as an opportunity to slam McCain most likely idolise Biden yet lack even an ounce of his grace and humility.

But you know, let the angst flow.

People will die if the GOP gets it way. You can fuck off calling that angst like we're some teenager having a bad day.

 

[Impeccable]

I don't understand how people are still having a hard time empathizing with people who don't empathize with McCain but ok.

I am not excusing John McCain's actions in totality but what if the brain cancer is ACTUALLY impacting his logic, reason and empathy?

It isn't impossible that his behaviour, especially at that hearing was a result. It could have a wider impact.

Does empathy toward him return or is it impossible to comprehend the disease might have a reaching effect?

 

[Sparrowhawk]

This thread is about the sad news that someone has brain cancer. Something we shouldn't wish on our worst enemies, in my opinion.

If that's being the concern police then I don't give a fuck.

I agree, it's a shitty thing.

 

[jstripes]

John McCain seems like someone of integrity who is being held back by serious threats against him.

I hope he can overcome the cancer, and I hope he can overcome those threats.

 

[chadtwo]

I'll reiterate what I said earlier. I hope this is the source of his behavior and views of late. I hope that if he recovers, he does some deep introspection and reflection on the importance of accessible and affordable healthcare. I hope this inspires him to do good and change from stripping tens of millions of healthcare. And instead strive towards stabilization and improvement of the system.

If he does that, I'll be glad to restore my respect for him and even apologize for some of my sentiments here.

Anything short, then oh well about him.

You've only specified how you'll feel on the condition that he recovers. How will you feel if he doesn't?

 

[the_darkness]

This guy didn't even stand up for himself when it came to his party. So maybe he needs you, GAF concern police. Have a good night.

lol @ you attempting to rebrand not being a cunt as "concern police"

 

[Jombie]

'I like the people who don't get brain cancer'

 

[Lois_Lane]

Ironic that many of those taking this as an opportunity to slam McCain most likely idolise Biden yet lack even an ounce of his grace and humility.

But you know, let the angst flow.

Biden stood for and actively supports allowing every American to have the programs they need to experience life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. McCain was happy to plug his ears while voting hurt millions.

Don't compare them.

 

[Sanjuro]

"My uncle was diagnosed with an easily curable disease in any other country but I gotta pay out the asshole here and maybe can't even afford it, I am not sad about John McCain contracting an illness"

Yes, this viewpoint is angsty, definitely.

Based on this logic, who did the mother or uncle vote for?

 

[Psychoward]

I am not excusing John McCain's actions in totality but what if the brain cancer is ACTUALLY impacting his logic, reason and empathy?

It isn't impossible that his behaviour, especially at that hearing was a result. It could have a wider impact.

Does empathy toward him return or is it impossible to comprehend the disease had no reaching effect?

I didn't quote you so I'm not sure where you're going with that. He was a bad person well before the hearing.

 

[Snowybreak]

Some of you just don't get it, you don't get to tell people have to feel in this situation.

Very true. Shit like this can be attacked from almost any angle, and most of them are correct. Here, I'll try two right now!

1.) I would never wish cancer on anyone. I've had more than a few people close to me die from cancer. So I hope his family is coping well, and I hope he has a speedy recovery.

2.) I hope he doesn't die from it so that he can witness the whole legacy of his party ripped down and burned in front of his eyes, all of his work utterly desecrated and dragged through the mud, his own personal legacy a stained husk.

 

[Ithil]

What if cancer (which kills everyone) is not the "justice" John Mccain deserves?

What if it's like he needs to survive this so he can feel the hurt he's caused many of you?

How does John Mccain dying of cancer further the cause you say he opposed?

I think he just got cancer because sometimes people get cancer.

 

[Hierophant]

Based on this logic, who did the mother or uncle vote for?

Doesn't matter does it, politics are irrelevant in that situation right?

 

[smokeandmirrors]

A good thread for everyone to consider when the pieces about his outstanding service come up in the following days: https://twitter.com/eoinhiggins_/status/887836300350566400

This is good. Thank you.

 

[KillLaCam]

Horrible but That actually makes sense. I wonder how long its been affecting his behavior

 

[HStallion]

You're right. He's a terrorist and fuck his grieving family! Because hoping someone who has BRAIN CANCER gets better automatically equates to me hoping his political views are successful.

If his parties health plans were to pass they would kill far more people than any terrorist organization could hope for. So not terrorists, more effective than that.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

I voted for the man back in the day. Sad to hear.

I could absolutely vote for 2000-model McCain when he was an aspiring Eisenhower. His is one of the more pathetic political declines, given where he started and what he seemed to want to be.

 

[Sanjuro]

Doesn't matter does it, politics are irrelevant in that situation right?

No, I need to know if they deserve to die?

 

[Psychoward]

lol @ you attempting to rebrand not being a cunt as "concern police"

That's cool that you feel bad for someone who wants millions of citizens to be financially ruined, eternally sick or dead and now think he's a good person because he got sick. Just don't call people who are anxious about that cunts, thanks.

 

[benicillin]

Brain cancer sucks but we don't need to whitewash a guys legacy of having shitty politics that hurt a lot of people because he got sick. Lots of good people get sick too. He made his choices, we should acknowledge them.

Like I hope he's fine but I'm not going to pretend he's a hero just because he got sick.

This happens in every celebrity illness/death thread dealing with politicians and celebrities.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

love 2 feign sorrow for spineless maverick with brain cancer trying to take away brain cancer treatment for the poors. Theres nothing apolitical about this.

Being captured by the VC doesn't fucking give you carte blanche for the rest of your life no matter what you have done. I'd show some empathy on my extremely minor and insignificant scale if his party ever does.

 

[Izuna]

I'm sorry but people low-key cheering this dude's death makes me question what world I live in.

Not that my opinions matters, but you can shun someone and refrain from wishing them well, but don't straight up be thankful for this.

 

[Tom Nook]

 

[GoldenEye 007]

You've only specified how you'll feel on the condition that he recovers. How will you feel if he doesn't?

Then he'd have died while working to take away healthcare from millions. For the past decade at least, he'd have died being part of the catalyst that accelerated the batshit insane nature of the GOP. His post 2000 regression is sad to say the least.

I would feel nothing for him. I'd probably feel similar to how I felt about Scalia. Relief. For a brief moment. Then the standard concern that is justified given he'll likely be replaced with someone even worse.

 

[Blader]

Jesus, how awful. I wish him well and good luck. That's a really tough diagnosis but Carter managed to pull through it at 10 years older, so there's some hope there.

 

[Hierophant]

No, I need to know if they deserve to die?

Nah they don't exist. Or rather they do but not in my family and across all party lines in all parts of America.

 

[Rixxan]

the GAF coward contingent out in full force itt

 

[toxicgonzo]

This is terrible news

 

[Psychoward]

I'm sorry but people low-key cheering this dude's death makes me question what world I live in.

you say low-key cheering because hardly anyone in here are cheering for his death and it's more a "I can't believe you guys are actually trying to pretend that he's a good person because now he's sick even though he's 80 by now"

 

[Surfinn]

If his parties health plans were to pass they would kill far more people than any terrorist organization could hope for. So not terrorists, more effective than that.

Me hoping for his swift recovery from brain cancer doesn't change my political views one bit.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

Biden stood for and actively supports allowing every American to have the programs they need to experience life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. McCain was happy to plug his ears while voting hurt millions.

Don't compare them.

He's pointing out that Biden was able to be friends with McCain and wish him well following the revelation of this diagnosis despite their political differences, similar to how Ginsberg and Scalia were best friends despite being polar opposites politically.

I am curious if the relatively recent "politics is the most important thing" shift in how Americans adjudicate people's personal characters and value is a long-term one, or mostly contingent on having an unhinged crazy in the White House.

 

[minor effort]

It's unfortunate for him and his family.

But would John McCain care about you if you were diagnosed with brain cancer and had your health insurance stripped away?

I'm sorry if I can't separate my feelings about the current GOP agenda and the man himself. They're intertwined. These people mean to make Americans' lives worse off. It's really difficult not to keep this in mind when thinking of John McCain tonight.

I want to be clear that I'm not "cheering" this news, and it brings me no joy. It's just that my thoughts on this are irrevocably complicated.

 

[the_darkness]

Biden stood for and actively supports allowing every American to have the programs they need to experience life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. McCain was happy to plug his ears while voting hurt millions.

Don't compare them.

Yet Biden somehow found the restraint to edit "but fuck McCain forreal tho" from the first draft of his statement.

 

[Lois_Lane]

I'm sorry but people low-key cheering this dude's death makes me question what world I live in.

A world where a man can happily allow his constituents to needlessly suffer or die just so the rich can get a small tax cut.

 

[Nasbin]

Look at who is our fucking President and maybe reexamine your perspective if you're openly celebrating this as if John McCain were Roger fucking Ailes. The absurd, dehumanizing polarization evident in this thread is an insult to McCain's legacy of bipartisanship. That he became less rebelliousness in his old age, under the possible influence of a brain tumor, doesn't discount the entirety of a man's 30 year senate career.

 

[Game-Biz]

I'm sorry but people low-key cheering this dude's death makes me question what world I live in.

Yep, some seriously pathetic and disgusting comments in this thread.

 

[Rmagnus]

I'm sorry but people low-key cheering this dude's death makes me question what world I live in.

A world where trump is the President of united states where this dude was trying to take away health care for millions of Americans.

 

[plagiarize]

People will die if the GOP gets it way. You can fuck off calling that angst like we're some teenager having a bad day.

We can (and should) keep fighting against the gop's shitty efforts to kill healthcare. We shouldn't miss a fucking step...

For all the people with cancer and every other goddamn disease. I hope John McCain lives into his 90s. I hope he lives to see healthcare get cheaper and become accessible for every American. I hope everyone in this thread does. Whether they want it or not. I hope they can get something I think everyone should have.

I want John McCain to get better asap. That might not be possible but I still want it. I want universal healthcare to happen in the USA. I think those two wants are much more in keeping with each other than what a few are expressing.

Lots of people who will die if the GOP get their way are shitty people. Racists. People who voted in the same people who want to dismantle the ACA. I still don't want them to die because they get sick and can't afford treatment.

 

[HStallion]

I'm sorry but people low-key cheering this dude's death makes me question what world I live in.

Not that my opinions matters, but you can shun someone and refrain from wishing them well, but don't straight up be thankful for this.

I am thankful that he hopefully never returns to politics to further ruin people's lives

 

[smokeandmirrors]

I'm sorry but people low-key cheering this dude's death makes me question what world I live in.

Maybe you should question the world in which people are okay with a person voting to strip health insurance from people, especially those with brain cancer.

 

[Aaronology]

Well, obviously, because he's famous. What a strange point to make.

Why are you referring to me in the third person?

You point fingers at posters in this thread for being "silly" and your rejoinder is a bunch of intellectually dishonest nonsense.
"Obviously, it's because he's famous." Gee, thanks. Now, why is he famous, Chadtwo? What is he famous for?

A: John McCain is a politician. We are discussing his illness because he is a notable politician. His politics cannot be divorced from a large discussion about his health because the only reason we care about his health is because we know of him through his politics. Demanding others ignore that aspect of his life when it directly impacts so many of us is as "silly" as the comments you've complained about.

 

[Negator]

I'm sorry but people low-key cheering this dude's death makes me question what world I live in.

For some of them, it may be a factor for them or someone in their family not dying.

I'd be pretty happy to not have to worry about dying.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

A good thread for everyone to consider when the pieces about his outstanding service come up in the following days: https://twitter.com/eoinhiggins_/status/887836300350566400

Man, a lot of the angry responses to this twitter thread are like carbon copies of some posts here. Also a lot of other bad stuff I wasn't aware of previously