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excelsiorlef
Member
If it makes yall happy I won't do the comparison thing between New Japan and WWE.
But #5years... we ain't going NOWHERE. you can call this, the new world organization of wrasslegaf, brother.
TerminalDogma
Member
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for em.
FlammableD
Banned
Fucks sake, always wanted to see Candice and that's the 1 London show I'm missing all year!
Sweeney Tom
Banned
It's been confusing to see people praising UFC for being able to make stars while WWE can't, simply because it always seems to backfire harder for UFC than it ever did for WWE
Like yeah, Dwayne and Brock leaving hurt them bad when it happened, and they're still recovering from the pain of that (they don't trust anyone who legit gets into movies post-Dwayne and -Batista, and you even see that with them now, being hesitant to give the world title back to Cena since he's gotten his own show)
UFC got crushed focusing on Anderson Silva and only Anderson Silva when he finally lost, same happened with Ronda, and now Conor's about to make more (in money and attention) from one fight outside their sport than he ever made combined in there. They might be better at making stars, but they're also better at watching them fall and having no way to pick up the pieces quickly
UFC's problem seems to be that they put too much focus on one star, and don't look for another star until either a new star makes them self or their current star gets destroyed.
That being said I'm tentatively planning on getting the UFC PPV on saturday
SallyIsNow
Banned
Oh man.
Day 1
* Tetsuya Naito vs Kota Ibushi
* Zack Sabre Jr. vs Hiroshi Tanahashi
* Hirooki Goto vs Tomohiro Ishii
Day 2
* SANADA vs EVIL
* Kenny Omega vs Minoru Suzuki
Day 3
* Kota Ibushi vs Zack Sabre Jr.
Day 4
* Minoru Suzuki vs SANADA
* Kazuchika Okada vs Michael Elgin
Day 5
* Tomohiro Ishii vs Kota Ibushi
Day 6
* TORU YANO VS KENNY OMEGA
* Sanada vs Kazuchika Okada
Still not caught up on these past two days.
serenewarfare
Banned
Fucks sake, always wanted to see Candice and that's the 1 London show I'm missing all year!
Wonder if she'll drop it soon considering her inevitable WWE signing in a few months.
I don't think she drops it to Candice though.
Reneledarker
Banned
Lack of direction is something CMLL has lacked for like 20 years...
They have so much potential, but they waste it on just building once a year for the anniversary show. Just look how secondary their titles are, they do not even get defended in the anniversary show.
excelsiorlef
Member
Matches from 2017 to track down:
Any Takahashi vs Dragon Lee match
Kushida vs Takahashi (all of them)
Naito vs Elgin
Okada vs Suzuki
Ibushi vs Naito from the G1
Okada vs Elgin from the G1
Zack Sabre Jr vs Ibushi from the G1
Zack Sabre Jr vs Tanahashi from the G1
Kushida vs Ospreay from Best of Super Juniors
Omega vs Elgin from G1 Special night one
Omega vs Ishii from G1 Special night two
Every other Omega vs Ishii match from this year
Okada vs Shibata
Young Bucks vs RPG Vice from Dominion and G1 Special.
That's just a few... If you want a feel for what a regular show feels like also seek out Los Ingobernables de Japon tag matches as they are some of 9f the best 6 man tags that are on every NJPW undercard.
If you want two events in full to watch and have a ton of time watch Wrestle Kingdom 11 and Dominion.
Speaking of cataloguing failure, did the LOLTNA encyclopedia ever find a new home after taimapedia shut down?
This seems to be the most recent archive of it available. There's so much content that could be added just in the last six months
This seems to be the most recent archive of it available. There's so much content that could be added just in the last six months
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Funnily enough, Jon Jones rose up at a time when they actually had more than one star to focus on and were desperate to capitalize on his success too
But his fuck ups were entirely his own stupid fault, happened far more frequently and more publicly than any other, and were bad enough they don't trust him anymore
Brian_FETO
Banned
Not the G1 but you should track down Hiromu Takahashi vs. Dragon Lee from New Beginning In Sapporo
Unbelievable combination of athleticism and attempted murder
FlammableD
Banned
Depends how lax WWE contracts are with regard to the dreaded "co-opted" promotions
Raw Superstar Noam Dar doing ICW this weekend is worth remembering being a thing that is happening in 2017.
EDIT: Also worth noting she didn't get a name change for the Mae Young classic.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
I'm thinking Jinny if they have her drop it
serenewarfare
Banned
I guess we'll see. I expect her to be one of the top women in NXT, if not the champion, by this time next year. Maybe they'll let those titles stay on them as long as they are in NXT at least. We've seen Dunne have his and be there, but he's never been involved with anyone outside of the U.K. guys.
And the name change stuff is whatever it is. None of the CWs did last year (besides Metalik) and most of them ended up signed.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Brother Seph, Jones or Cormier? It's time to draw the WrassleGaf line.
#TeamCormier
#AJAll
serenewarfare
Banned
If we see Dunne get in a feud with someone not in the UK division in NXT while still holding the Progress title, then I'll believe more in their cross-pollination.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
To be honest, I kind of hope if Toni Storm gets signed she doesn't languish in NXT too long. I know they do it to build #brand but her and Asuka are desperately need in the main roster picture.
Yeah, Nia and Alexa need more women to beat.
Please "languish", it's the only way they stay watchable.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't understand why the Mae Young Classic stuff is being held until super late August. They can't possibly believe it's going to somehow run into SummerSlam, can they?
serenewarfare
Banned
FWIW, Meltzer did confirm last night that Dijak and Cole will be in NXT shortly. As for War Machine, they have a WWE offer on the table and are deciding what they want to do. I think they'd be pushed big time. Especially Hanson.
I could see them keeping her there for at least a little while given her age and what they are going through with Paige.
Paige is the reason that basically no one under 21 gets signed anymore.
I could see them keeping her there for at least a little while given her age and what they are going through with Paige.
Paige is the reason that basically no one under 21 gets signed anymore.
Brian_FETO
Banned
"Look, neither of us care about this shit until our next big PPV, come back in August"
Would love to see War Machine in WWE for the 3 months before they get broken up
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Asuka needs to be called up after Brooklyn.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Toni Storm is 21, they're probably fine with throwing her straight into NXT.
serenewarfare
Banned
They are trying to make SS a WM type show, so they don't want the MYC to be overshadowed. They want to be able to hype it independently of everything else. That's why they are doing bracketology immediately after Summerslam. They want it to benefit from coming in the nothing weeks after SS.
Totally. I could just see them keeping her there for a year or year and a half just to make sure she's ready for it. Of course they did that with Paige too, so I guess you can never really know.
Can't wait for the Asuka this is your life segment or askua in a multi man tag team everyday.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Well, we're like Netflix. But better!
Brian_FETO
Banned
excelsiorlef
Member
Ugh War Machine might be the guys I want least in WWE. The appeal is their ring work... their character work drives me nuts and that's mainly what WWE is all about.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
She's Australian. But yeah, at 21 there's no chance she gets hot-shotted unless Vince falls in love with her for whatever reason.
serenewarfare
Banned
I mean the alternative is dead as fuck Full Sail crowd, so there's really nothing they can do. Hosting it in front a main roster crowd means more in terms of what they think of it IMO.
Because you need her to get that first loss?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Sure there is. Put it on the NXT PPV in Houston. Let the girls do some promo/ring work in NXT to build the match up. Same thing they did for the Dusty tag tournament.
serenewarfare
Banned
The timing doesn't work. The next NXT PPV after Brooklyn isn't until November.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Nia went about 4 months before losing clean (tapping to Becky at Survivor Series)
Absolute Best Fucking Case for Asuka is she gets an extra month before that first L
Or put it on raw or sd or it on a ppv or a NXT . There is a ton of places they could have done it at.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I'd rather Asuka vacated the belt by saying there's no more competition for her to beat and brought herself up to the main roster.
But Asuka's first loss being to Ember has been a thing known for nearly a year.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
I wish NXT tapings would leave Full Sail
Brian_FETO
Banned
I wish Asuka would be the last major "win streak" character for a while but I'm sure she won't be
Only makes it more obnoxious and predictable
Would be cool if they'd do that sort of thing for a little while but then have the person randomly lose and use that to start their first feud.
I'm a fan of Asuka and Charlotte but the streaks were pretty much meaningless at a certain point (worse for Asuka because it likely won't be carried over to the main roster)
Only makes it more obnoxious and predictable
Would be cool if they'd do that sort of thing for a little while but then have the person randomly lose and use that to start their first feud.
I'm a fan of Asuka and Charlotte but the streaks were pretty much meaningless at a certain point (worse for Asuka because it likely won't be carried over to the main roster)
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's true but you can just do some promo/in-ring work to hype it on NXT.
serenewarfare
Banned
Another reason putting the MYC finals on an NXT PPV is not such a great idea is that you immediately define the tournament down. Unless you put the finals as the main event. It getting its own finals show allows it to be the one and only attraction.
That's like two and a half months. Too long IMO.
That's like two and a half months. Too long IMO.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They can't. NXT tapings aren't THAT popular right now. They do some limited tapings at UCF, but I think they'd be worried about having to paper it.
I also think its a better option to just tape it for SmackDown itself to try and sell the network.