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Just bought parts for a PC! Tell me what you think!

So, I'm venturing into the land of PC Gaming and other uses for a rig. Here's everything i bought!

Tell me what you think.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TheWorthyEdge/saved/RVQCmG

I'm going to setup a RAID on my PC as well with 2 2TB HDDs my friend's giving me so thats why there's no HDD on there.

Also, Video card wise I bought: http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814500403

Monitor: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015WCV70W/?tag=neogaf0e-20

My actual case is this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RORBQNW/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Incredibly excited to build this bad boy! Any quick tidbits and recommendations would be amazing.
 

GrizzNKev

Banned
I built almost that exact computer today for a friend. It's gonna be more than good enough do to everything except the most demanding games (Witcher 3 maxed out, etc.) at 1080p.
 
as a noobie myself i really recommend a fully modular PSU, it makes cable management so much easier. i thought mine was in my first build but it wasnt fully modular so i struggled a bit (that said my pc case didnt help much either lol)
 

Blam

Member
You could have used the free upgrade instead of buying W10 and just wiping the drive while installing.

Other than that the build is pretty good.
 

Finaika

Member
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
I haven't bought W10 yet. What's this you speak of?

He means if you have Windows 7/8, you can upgrade that to 10 to get "free" Windows 10 before the end of today-tomorrow (the 30th)'s upgrade offer window closes. This will give you a Windows 10 key to use as a clean install. BUT it also revokes your Windows 7/8 key as an actual Windows 7/8 key so no downgraded or going back if you keep that windows 10 upgrade for 30 days.

If you're building from scratch, it's probably better to just buy Windows 10 anyway and avoid the hassle of moving the upgrade key to your new hardware.
 
Hey, I use the 100R case myself! It's pretty good, the motherboard standoffs and 2 case fans come preinstalled. Very easy to build in.

As others have mentioned you got a non-overclockable processor but you're putting it into an overclock-compatible motherboard. Not a huge deal especially as you're running 1080p, but still good to be aware of that.

Edit: Holy shit, are you me? I use that monitor as well! It's pretty nice too, the colors are very vibrant because of the IPS panel.
 

aravuus

Member
Looks good to me

The day I finally bought and assembled my very own gaming PC was truly a magical day. I was 15 and my parents' terrible PC was the only one in the house before that so I doubt your experience is going to be as crazy lol, but I hope it's at least close
 
How come you went for Haswell over Skylake?

I presume you have no intentions of overclocking as you went for a non K processor, the 4790K does turbo a bit higher though to a clock-speed of 4.4GHz, it also costs more too.

I don't really see anything wrong with the build though, that's a really good set of ram you have chosen.

The motherboard is okay, and the PSU is too.
 
Yep, better to post in there instead of everyone making their own thread about their parts.

There are new threads when people buy a PS4 or Xbox One or PS Vita. What's wrong with an excited new PC gamer making a thread about the new parts they just spend hundreds of of dollars on so that they can experience gaming in a whole new way?
 

dxdy

Banned
You bought non-overclockable CPU and a Z97 motherboard, of which overclocking is the key feature. Congratulations on wasting some money.
No SSD. In 2016.
Protip: ask first, buy last. :p
 

ISee

Member
We have a dedicated pc builder thread for questions like this. Just saying.

Performance wise it's fine. But...

1) Skip Haswell and go directly for Skylake. It's not that much more expansive and you get the faster and more modern architecture, usb 3.1 support and more PCI-E lanes which can be helpful, especially for raid systems.

2) Investing into the 'high end' z97 chipset just for the ddr3 2400mhz ram is a bit of a waste. z97 boards are meant to be used with unlocked k processors for easy overclocking. So at least get a 4790k processor and bring it to 4400mhz.

3) Personally I prefer the look of your old case...

4) 500w are definitely enough

5) The 1060 is fine.


My build suggestion:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mZbTCy

Just $18 more expensive if you reuse your old case.
 

Rathorial

Member
The part list is mostly good, but I'd personally say an i7 CPU in any generation isn't that useful for gaming, and you'd be better off getting a cheaper Skylake intel i5 6600k.

Then you can use the saved $60-70, and get a gtx 1070 instead.

Just my recommendation.
 
Would it not make more sense to go with a Skylake CPU for a better upgrade path? And I'd just buy an i5 for gaming and if you're not planning on overclocking I'd get like a H170 motherboard.

No point buying an aftermarket cpu cooler if it's not a K series and you're not going to overclocking it.
Depends, I bought an aftermarket cooler just keep the noise down. On my previous rig I had to buy an aftermarket cooler cause AMDs old stock cooler is shite and the fan sounded like a jet engine when playing intense games.
 
Sorry if this is considered derailing, but I thought it was relevant to the discussion because it wouldn't just be useful for myself, but also for the OP and others.

I'm currently trying to decide on a custom 8GB RX 480 (like the Sapphire Nitro which seems to be the best of that category) or a custom Nvidia GTX 1060 (one with good silent cooling, like can anyone vouch for say MSI's Armor or Gaming series of custom cards?).

There are a number of factors that I've spent hours and hours deliberating over now. It's honestly been taking so much of my thoughts and distracting me so much that I worry it is going to negatively affect my grades in the summer Linear Algebra course I'm taking. :p

1. Is 6GB and a reduced memory bandwith on the 1060 going to bottleneck that card compared to the 480's 8GB and higher bandwith? Does anyone think that 2GB and a little less speed will become a concern in the next 3, 4 or 5 years with texture size increases and the growing rise of 1440p and 4k?

2. It appears that the majority of DX12 and Vulkan supporting games perform better on the RX 480 in those modes than on the 1060, apparently because the 480 has better/more asynchronous processors and perhaps better drivers for those two APIs? Does it seem like the 1060 can "catch up" with the 480 with better software support, or will the 480 keep it's lead in these two APIs due to unchangeable hardware advantages?

3. I have heard that the Kepler series has performed worse over time (there was a thread on it that I think used DOOM as an example?) and that this may be due to Nvidia being more focused on supporting only the latest and greatest GPUs, while failing to give as much software attention to slightly older cards as soon as they are maybe 2 years old and out of the public eye. Is this true? Is the 1060 likely to start performing worse than it "should" because of a decreased software support over time?

4. The AMD RX 470 and 460 are coming up in August. Is it likely that the 470 will reach an even lower average dollar-to-frame level than the 1060 and 480? I wasn't planning to upgrade until I decided Deus Ex Mankind Divided deserves to be played on PC, so I am torn between paying just enough to run that well next month, and future-proofing my computer for a few more years before probably building an entirely new one. The 470 is therefore something I'm keeping my eyes on, but it seems like it might be just a bit too weak, 10% would be an acceptable power difference from the 480 IMO.

5. I've heard that PCI-E 3.0 cards runs almost exactly the same on PCI-E 2.0. I have an Asus motherboard with support for Sandy and Ivy Bridge (I have an Intel i5 2500k, so Sandy), and it apparently supports PCI 3.0 if I had an Ivy processor. I'd rather not upgrade since that would be a large expenditure and the 2500k still seems to be an excellent CPU. Will it be fine to use either of these new cards with a CPU that only supports PCI 2.0?

6. Am I right to assume AMD FreeSync is only a tiny bit worse than G-Sync and the price differential between the two options is definitely worth opting for FreeSync because it is nearly as good but much cheaper? Isn't FreeSync an open standard, that Nvidia just refuses to even support their own cards to use, simply because they want to sell their own monitors equipped with the G-Sync module and locking their cards into that achieves that goal? Are TVs (as opposed to computer monitors) going to support either standard anytime soon? I game using a wireless mouse and keyboard with my computer plugged into the family TV, so I thought I'd ask if there is any indication of TV manufacturers adopting this standard. If not, what is the biggest PC monitor that would for a reasonable price?

7. Lastly, and this is kind of a smaller question, is a graphics card backplate necessary? It seems like some say it is important to have in order to protect the PCB from dust and potential scrapes and cuffs, and while that may be true, wouldn't dusting the top of the exposed PCB also be fine? Would the PCB be so vulnerable that dusting with a feather duster or blowing air into the computer would carry the risk of damaging the card? Does dust collecting onto an exposed PCB damage a card over time? Some also say it is important to prevent graphics card "sag", while others would say that isn't really something to be concerned about or it doesn't happen anyways.

Sorry for the huge load of questions, I just have been thinking about these concerns on my own for hours now and I thought GAF could help me out! One other concern for me in regards to upgrading my graphics card is that Newegg has a coupon going on for $25 off from a $200+ purchase and that expires on (or just before?) August 1st, so I'm eager to jump onto one of the two approaching trains.

(I hope people don't mind if I also post this on the 1060 and 480 review threads.)

Edit:

One last question, the power cords/ports for GPUs haven't changed or anything since 2011, right? I built my computer back then but don't have the money to make any upgrades on really anything but the GPU, so I'm just checking that as long as I have the GPU power cords necessary for an AMD 6950 (what I got back then), there will be no problem using those on whatever GPU I upgrade to.

Thank you!
 

wiggleb0t

Banned
Depends, I bought an aftermarket cooler just keep the noise down. On my previous rig I had to buy an aftermarket cooler cause AMDs old stock cooler is shite and the fan sounded like a jet engine when playing intense games.

If you are using it for a studio recording then that would make sense. In most cases though the stock heat sink is fine.
 

Redrum_82

Member
Be careful with the Win10 license.

The OEM ones are cheaper, but they will be linked to the hardware and will stop working if you do major upgrades in the future.

Retail licenses cost a little more, but you can move them from one PC to another without issues (of course they will only work on one PC at a time).

Given the fact that supposedly there will never be a successor to Win10, a retail license might be a wise investment in the long run.
 

7suna

Neo Member
Definitely a SSD and no RAID0.
I'm not found of RAID0, especially with bigs HDD like those. You'll probably put data on them and loosing everything with few chance to be able to recover anything just because one disk failed....
It's better to have a SSD as system and use those 2 HDD with RAID1 for data to have some protection (or no RAID if you want to keep the full size of both of them)
 
If you are using it for a studio recording then that would make sense. In most cases though the stock heat sink is fine.

Well that depends on what your tolerance for noise is. My old rig was noisy as hell so I built my current one with noise reduction in mind.
 
enormous post

The GTX 1060 and RX 480 are both good choices for 1080p gaming, but the 1060 is a bit more powerful in non-DX12 titles (read: most games available at the moment) and a nice EVGA SuperClocked 1060 can be had for only $250, as opposed to something like the Sapphire Nitro which costs $270 and has had noise issues from the reviews I've seen.

A graphics card backplate is not necessary in the least, but it is nice to have.

The power cords for GPUs have not changed.

G-Sync is a bit better than Free-Sync, but Free-Sync monitors are cheaper to compensate.

I don't think you will be bottlenecked by 6 GB of VRAM as long as you stick to playing at 1080p. The RX 460 and 470 aren't designed to play games like Deus Ex: Mankind Divided on high settings, the 1060 and 480 are.

Don't worry about PCI 3.0 vs. 2.0. It's a non-issue.

If you buy a 1060 or 480, you will be able to play games smoothly at 1080p for the next 2 years or so. The 460 and 470 can't play some current games smoothly, so I really would not recommend them for your purposes.
 

thenameDS

Member
I think you should have asked for advice before buying. IMO definitely not how you should have spent that money.

If you didn't want to overclock better options:
i5-6500
Gigabyte H170
Corsair 16GB DDR4-3000
-$90

i7-6700
Gigabyte H170
Corsair 16GB DDR4-3000
+$15

One thing that you can change now is the idea of going RAID 0, it's far too risky. Just buy yourself a SSD..
it's 2016
 

petran79

Banned
One thing that you can change now is the idea of going RAID 0, it's far too risky. Just buy yourself a SSD..
it's 2016

SSDs are not that safe either if there are system resets, power surge failures, system hangs etc

Still use a normal WD Black HDD with SATAIII
 

kami_sama

Member
Doesn't need to be a k processor. Ocing is not for everyone.

Also, I would have gone for a Cryorig H7, although it's a lot more expensive.
And no GPU? Are you going to buy one later?
 
Definitely a SSD and no RAID0.
I'm not found of RAID0, especially with bigs HDD like those. You'll probably put data on them and loosing everything with few chance to be able to recover anything just because one disk failed....
It's better to have a SSD as system and use those 2 HDD with RAID1 for data to have some protection (or no RAID if you want to keep the full size of both of them)
Yeah this is my thinking too. RAIDing purely for performance isn't worth the hassle. Even getting a cheap SSD will net you greater benefits than RAIDing two HDDs.
SSDs are not that safe either if there are system resets, power surge failures, system hangs etc

Still use a normal WD Black HDD with SATAIII
Well to be fair, those things can kill ANY part of your PC, if anything, the SSD would be more resilient than most other components in the build
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Granted you could always spend more, but it makes more sense to get something like a Z170 chipset and an i7K processor. it would have been about $80 more, but it would be worth it.

OR you could have gone with an i5K CPU and gone with a Z170 chipset for cheaper actually.

Other than that, the system is fine.
 
Looks great to me. I definitely gotta side with the majority of the thread and say definitely should've gotten a K processor or saved a bit on the gpu cooler and motherboard. Those are definitely designed for overclocking
 

ghibli99

Member
Enjoy it. :) It's hard to make "bad" picks with PC parts these days. Building a PC is fun and fulfilling. Do take your time with the cable management, especially if the case is smaller (not sure how big that Corsair actually is comparatively).

Personally, I think the CPU cooler is fine. Fans will likely be quieter than stock, and their orientation will move air better towards the back/exhaust side of your case.
 
Solid build. A few minor missteps with the non 'K' CPU matched with an overclocking focused MB and an unnecessary 3rd party cooler for your stock processor. No biggie though. You'll be very pleased with your new rig. Congrats!
 

RMI

Banned
going to echo the SSD suggestions. 500GB minimum, 1TB if you have the extra money. It's a game changer.
 
The GTX 1060 and RX 480 are both good choices for 1080p gaming, but the 1060 is a bit more powerful in non-DX12 titles (read: most games available at the moment) and a nice EVGA SuperClocked 1060 can be had for only $250, as opposed to something like the Sapphire Nitro which costs $270 and has had noise issues from the reviews I've seen.

A graphics card backplate is not necessary in the least, but it is nice to have.

The power cords for GPUs have not changed.

G-Sync is a bit better than Free-Sync, but Free-Sync monitors are cheaper to compensate.

I don't think you will be bottlenecked by 6 GB of VRAM as long as you stick to playing at 1080p. The RX 460 and 470 aren't designed to play games like Deus Ex: Mankind Divided on high settings, the 1060 and 480 are.

Don't worry about PCI 3.0 vs. 2.0. It's a non-issue.

If you buy a 1060 or 480, you will be able to play games smoothly at 1080p for the next 2 years or so. The 460 and 470 can't play some current games smoothly, so I really would not recommend them for your purposes.

Thank you for the reply! These answers help me out a lot. I hope you don't mind if I ask some followup questions.

But before I do that, there is one question that isn't a followup.

Are AMD features proprietary like Nvidia ones are? As in, if a game uses TressFX or RealHair or whatever the feature is called (I think it is at least supported by AMD), will that feature work on an Nvidia card?

Does the EVGA SC really run cooler and quieter than the Nitro? That would be surprising given it has only one fan compared to two. I thought the Nitro was reviewing well. By "noise issues" do you mean it actually gets loud, or is it more like it isn't quite as completely silent as expected. Like is it above the sound of say, a normal PS4 under stress, or is it just "loud" comparative to other super silent options?

Would you say that 4GB could end up being a bottleneck then?

Are there any custom cards (480 or 1060) that you would recommend? Obviously besides the EVGA SC which you already have recommended. It seems to be a very good option, but it also seems a little bit barebones to me, maybe I'm wrong though.

Lastly, do you think Vulkan and DX12 will supplant DX11 in the near future, or is buying a card aimed at those two APIs in 2016 a little premature, since the cards that are really built for it will come out in the next few years and they might compete with PS5 and similar consoles and not say the PS NEO or Scorpio. Speaking of, are the 480 or 1060 likely to match the Scorpio in power?
 
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