Kanye West says retarded thing thread #72
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Himuro said:
D'Angelo smokes rocks. That being said we have a "Why I hate Kanye West" Thread every week or so and each time it comes up to 4 pages or so. For people that hate him so much I'm confused as to why you hang on his every word. That is bizzare to me.
PhoenixDark
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Kanye is the man. College Dropout and Late Registration are great, great albums. He talks a lot of crap, but he has yet to not deliver.
As many have pointed out, he has some crazy unreleased songs. Gone is better than just about every song on Late Registration, and it'll be even better once it's clean up (production wise).
As many have pointed out, he has some crazy unreleased songs. Gone is better than just about every song on Late Registration, and it'll be even better once it's clean up (production wise).
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Seriously I do not get MF Doom- so much hype. He's like the Kanye West of the underground scene.Shaheed79 said:
Atleast Kanye keeps my interest in Hip-Hop alive by saying crazy shit every week. If anything I have more admiration for Kanye for letting the world know how he feels than for his music. Beats doing it for a computer monitor.
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I think people take this stuff too seriously. 
imo, he says it just to be a smartass.
(Partly.)
imo, he says it just to be a smartass.(Partly.)
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:lolShaheed79 said:
MF Doom = Kanye West. It's the same shit. One is for the masses and the other is minority who thinks they are 'better' than the masses.
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"Comparing rap to jazz."
What you feel about rap is irrelevant. The same thing (Rap isn't music) was said about Jazz in the early 1900s and was said about Rock and Roll in the 1950s. Usually said by close-minded uppity cockfaces.
What you feel about rap is irrelevant. The same thing (Rap isn't music) was said about Jazz in the early 1900s and was said about Rock and Roll in the 1950s. Usually said by close-minded uppity cockfaces.
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krypt0nian said:
no, people are hating on the fact he says he "Changed" music while sampling has been around for a long time..
not a verdict on sampling what-so-ever...
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Darko said:
Oh that's brilliant.
Except R'n'B and Hiphop, which I assume this is suppose to mock, are not the same thing.
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'Hip-Hop Pass'.Shaheed79 said:
Ohhhhh it burns.
It's probably a sample too, but at least he went to the motherland for that one. PEACE.
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If you respected music and musicianship you wouldn't be saying that. Cockface.Teknopathetic said:
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"If you respected music and musicianship you wouldn't be saying that. Cockface."
Defending a genre of music somehow means I don't respect music? That's brilliant.
Defending a genre of music somehow means I don't respect music? That's brilliant.
Late Stage Marxist
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Again, if you knew anything about musicianship and performance you would have a different opinion. Have you ever heard rap being performed live?Teknopathetic said:
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If I'm wrong, why does rap sound so bad when performed live?
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trippingmartian said:
Get Jay-Z's MTV Unplugged then shut your hole
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That's an exception, not the rule.Agent Icebeezy said:
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trippingmartian said:
A lot of rap sucks live, yes. But it depends of what rapper you are listening too. If you are basing your judgement on mainstream rappers such as 50 Cent, I can see how you've come to these conclusions. But still, you need to do more reseach before making such broad claims.
Real rap artists have no problem giving quality live shows. I suggest you stop making these generalizations and listen to The Roots, , Mos Def, Common, Lauryn Hill, etc. instead. Clearly you are in dire need of education on this subject.
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QFTkarasu said:
50 Cent/Nelly/The Game/etc etc etc. Those "rappers" are not good indicators of what rap is about.
there is so much that goes into making a hot beat that people are so unaware of. try making a beat that sounds good in your headphones, on the radio, in the club, in a car system, everywhere.. its not easy..
If you really enjoy music, you can repsect that there is good talent in basicly all generes. Writing off an entire genere is a little retarded.
Im not a big fan of rock and GEETARZ but there are some good songs out there for sure.
oh yeah, kanye west is good. i dont care what he says, hes probably not serious in the first place. heard em say is an awesome track when you're driving home from a club at like 4 in the morning.
If you really enjoy music, you can repsect that there is good talent in basicly all generes. Writing off an entire genere is a little retarded.
Im not a big fan of rock and GEETARZ but there are some good songs out there for sure.
oh yeah, kanye west is good. i dont care what he says, hes probably not serious in the first place. heard em say is an awesome track when you're driving home from a club at like 4 in the morning.
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pjberri said:
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What do you think the ratio of good live rap acts to bad ones is? What about the ratio in other genres? Jazz? World? Classical? The point is that you don't need musical ability to make it as a rapper. I feel the same way about hardcore metal singers and a majority of rock acts. Is it a negative thing? Not necessarily, but from the perspective of a trained jazz/world/classical musician it is often perceived that way.Shinobi said:
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Teknopathetic
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"The point is that you don't need musical ability to make it as a rapper."
Being a rapper doesn't mean you're a musician. No one's calling rappers musicians (unless they actually are a musician). We're talking about rap music, the final product. Try to keep up.
Being a rapper doesn't mean you're a musician. No one's calling rappers musicians (unless they actually are a musician). We're talking about rap music, the final product. Try to keep up.
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I never stated otherwise.Shinobi said:
Keep up? This is an argument that I started when I stated that jazz shouldn't be compared to rap. As far as live performance goes, the ratio of great live jazz bands vs. great live rap acts leads me to believe that statistically jazz is the better genre to hear live. 9 times out of 10 a rap concert consists of grown men shouting over a playback of studio material.Teknopathetic said:
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trippingmartian said:
NO, you are the ignorant one--a lot in this topic have caught you on it---.
In my experience, the amount of rap haters, and rock elitists FAR outnumber the rock haters. Its sad as hell, that every person--and elitist-- I know of, that has---or listens to--rap, has atleast tried and enjoyed some rock songs, yet, every raock elitist i have spoken to hates rap, for whatever reason.
First off:
Making beats IS NOT easy...at all. If you have a natural talent for it, then its a little easier, but still. I had a music tech class back in high school, and we did exactly that---made beats--. If you are using a program that is for newbs, it makes it less painless. If you only have a midi/keyboard/ and mic---it is a lot harder. Making a beat that sounds good to you, is pretty easy. Making one that everyone loves is ten times harder.
As for rap being compared to other musical genres: it damn well should be. I have listened to some songs, so well put together, that the artist gets classed right up there with Prince playing guitars. I have heard songs so complex, that they would make poets,philosophers, and english teachers shut the fuck up. It takes skill to be able to rap, whether your elitist minds grasps that or not.
As for performances...you must not know what the hell you are talking about. Being a musician myself, I go to concerts expecting flawless performances to justify my ticket purchases. I can't count how many times I have gone to a concert, only to catch the mistakes the musician has made, while playing the instrument. Normal folks hear it as well, but think that its part of the program. Does this mean, that because I heard some bad performances, all of the shows are terrible? Hell no! I have been blown away by some performances.
As for the content: R&B=/= hip hop as a whole. Any moron saying otherwise should not even speak on the matter. I hate the generalizations that people like to throw around when it comes to hip hop and most importantly rap music. Saying shit like all rap songs have bitch in it, and degrade women in it, is like saying rock music is full of a bunch of emotional suicidals, who can't help but whine about their sad look on life.
<B>NEWSFLASH FOR RAP HATERS!!!!!</B>
People have been making songs about sex for YEARS now. Maybe your youngasses don't remember the Isley brothers---coming from a 19 year old--.
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What did he get banned for? :lol
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