Winterfang
Banned
When are they going to announce the other characters? We are only missing 2 right now right? That means Zero chance for Riptor =(
Killer Instinct coming to Xbox One
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yeah it's almost a guarantee that riptor won't be until season 2
The only difference is that DH has made it clear they want to continue to add to this game. So it will effectively never be finished until interest in the game dies.
That's my main concern right now. I was planning on going to NEC for what seemed to be the first KI tournament, but with only six characters available for that event... I don't know if I want to travel for it.
I assume nothing has been announced here yet?
This is another thing that upsets me. Gamescom is in full stride. Why haven't we gotten the announcement trailer yet? This is like the E3 announcement coming on day 3 of E3. Why are we waiting? I don't understand...
What's even worse is if the reveal is similar to the Thunder reveal at Evo. You wait three days to see a tomahawk.
Anticitizen One
Banned
The problem is that it's not just the charecters you get for $60. You also get a full story mode, the S.T.A.R. Labs side stuff, and tons of bonus content.
IOnEI Falcon
Member
Yeah...nothing...
I expect at Saturday to get a tease.
edit: This may interest some Toronto KI fans: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=658769
edit: This may interest some Toronto KI fans: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=658769
Yeah, I really don't like the way KI is being presented with Gamescom. The Info-dump at the beginning was nice I guess, but there's barely been any videos, no updates on what parts of the presented info actually MEAN, the tease / new character info is coming later than desired and has no announced time frame (which sets it up to be a disappointment, unless it's a full character reveal), and most of the vids that HAVE gotten out from the convention, have all been of sub-standard play.
I loved the Madcatz streaming from E3, I wish it was standard for the game at every appearance, really...
KI will have a story mode for the characters come the release of the first 2 included-with-base-purchase DLC characters.
It already is confirmed to have a per-character training mode, said to have something like 42 lessons per character. (I wish injustice did this, rather than it's kinda-useless tutorial mission.)
Characters will have their original themes unlockable within the game, if you "Fight against your instinct" to obtain them.
They already seem to have a host of alt colors (Seems at least 4 per character so far) where as Injustice only offered 1 color, and a varying amount of outfits per character.
Alt outfits and some kind of accessory can also be had in KI with the Ultra Pack. So if you want such, it's available in some way.
Personally, I would have quickly traded those STAR Lab missions for better per-character tutorials and / or a better distribution of costumes / unique win poses / costume colors per character. And while I loved the story mode in a "It's like a DC animation!" kind of way, the actual play within the mode was so badly handled; you were tossed to characters with no introduction to their movesets, playstyles, or anything. I would have been just as happy with them offering the "story" as a unique DC animation film on a DVD / BluRay bundled with game purchase...
I loved the Madcatz streaming from E3, I wish it was standard for the game at every appearance, really...
KI will have a story mode for the characters come the release of the first 2 included-with-base-purchase DLC characters.
It already is confirmed to have a per-character training mode, said to have something like 42 lessons per character. (I wish injustice did this, rather than it's kinda-useless tutorial mission.)
Characters will have their original themes unlockable within the game, if you "Fight against your instinct" to obtain them.
They already seem to have a host of alt colors (Seems at least 4 per character so far) where as Injustice only offered 1 color, and a varying amount of outfits per character.
Alt outfits and some kind of accessory can also be had in KI with the Ultra Pack. So if you want such, it's available in some way.
Personally, I would have quickly traded those STAR Lab missions for better per-character tutorials and / or a better distribution of costumes / unique win poses / costume colors per character. And while I loved the story mode in a "It's like a DC animation!" kind of way, the actual play within the mode was so badly handled; you were tossed to characters with no introduction to their movesets, playstyles, or anything. I would have been just as happy with them offering the "story" as a unique DC animation film on a DVD / BluRay bundled with game purchase...
BananasWithGuns
Member
I hope with season 2 of the game they sell the season pass up front and then release a new character every few weeks as opposed to making them all and throwing them all out once in the fall.
I think it would be a good way to capitalize on what are typically barren summers for games. I'd gladly pay $20 up front in May or June to be able to download a new character every few weeks.
Plus they could release the characters that didn't make it in season 1 sooner which would make a lot of people happy.
I think it would be a good way to capitalize on what are typically barren summers for games. I'd gladly pay $20 up front in May or June to be able to download a new character every few weeks.
Plus they could release the characters that didn't make it in season 1 sooner which would make a lot of people happy.
Winterfang
Banned
I'm not buying until I have Riptor. Jago only Free Game for me.
too much eslim
Member
My only gripe with the game is the roster size. outside of that. The game is going to be amazing to play.
Do you play any fighters currently?
Stream today in 2 1/2 hours:
http://playxbla.com/playxbla-live-s...-22nd-featuring-killer-instinct-for-xbox-one/
http://playxbla.com/playxbla-live-s...-22nd-featuring-killer-instinct-for-xbox-one/
Here's my updated guide for PAX Prime. I may add more to the Thunder section if we get new info before I head out to PAX. Otherwise, there will be a full update after PAX.
Intro: http://www.primagames.com/games/kil...r-instinct-mini-eguide-pax-prime-edition-intr
Basic Systems Part 1: http://www.primagames.com/games/kil...r-instinct-mini-eguide-pax-prime-edition-basi
Basic Systems Part 2: http://www.primagames.com/games/kil...r-instinct-mini-eguide-pax-prime-edition-bas2
Character Section: http://www.primagames.com/games/kil...r-instinct-mini-eguide-pax-prime-edition-char
Wonder which build they have. If I had to guess I'd say Evo build, but it would be great for Toronto residents if it's the Gamescom build.
Intro: http://www.primagames.com/games/kil...r-instinct-mini-eguide-pax-prime-edition-intr
Basic Systems Part 1: http://www.primagames.com/games/kil...r-instinct-mini-eguide-pax-prime-edition-basi
Basic Systems Part 2: http://www.primagames.com/games/kil...r-instinct-mini-eguide-pax-prime-edition-bas2
Character Section: http://www.primagames.com/games/kil...r-instinct-mini-eguide-pax-prime-edition-char
Wonder which build they have. If I had to guess I'd say Evo build, but it would be great for Toronto residents if it's the Gamescom build.
too much eslim
Member
No had a fire in my room and lost all my stuff this year so right now I'm just waiting to get things back in order. I also think Glacius is op based on what we've seen and think Sabre needs a buff for Glacius at least if Glacius ends up being the only zoning character. I know the Combo breakers will be toned down so it is not a worry.
Wonder if they'll reveal or tease something.
Given how few characters they're releasing at launch, they may be trying to stretch out the announcements a bit more.
too much eslim
Member
They better announce a character this week next major gameshow is TGS where they will unveil the final character before launch.
And New York Comic Con.
Frankly, I'd be kind of surprised if Microsoft announced anything big at TGS.
You know, I actually wish I could put each of these behind a "spoiler" box like on SRK; helps cut down on the text wall, ha. Oh well...
So far, not too much. I'll go over specifics:
Jago: I like the design, because it seems to have more personality behind it, than his old one. Any changes seem to fit him as a character. I kinda wish he had that lame little extra kick-off on his DP like he did in KI1, but that's not really significant.
'Wulf: Some of the Patchy-ness of his fur looks awkward to me, and I'm a bit sad that some of his tools seem to be lacking compared to others, but there seems to be time to work that out. I like the fact he pretty much has a carbon-copy of John Talbain's crouching fierce.
Thunder: Back in the day, I was pretty bummed with him not making it into KI 2, so I'm glad to see him back. I actually smile to see him do his knee-gut hits and headbutts in combo, after Triplax's, because that's the parts of his combos I remember the most. HE NEES TO SAY "PHOENIX" SOMEWHERE, THOUGH.
Glacius: actually has a unique looking body now. One of the things I hate most about western fighting games (Skullgirls is an exception) is how boring their character models often are. So Glacius here was a breath of fresh air. He looks like the "aggressive Sim" I'd have liked in early SFIV; While others were getting link timing and combos down, I felt like playing 'Sim took me totally away from using these features, and that made him feel a bit shallow in that regard. Seeing him combo from range makes me feel like he's a marriage of KoF XIII's Duo Lon + SF's Sim, and that's actually something unique enough to make me want to play the game based on that alone. (Not saying he'd be my Main, but I'm quite interested). Hail is a better projectile than his old one, though I'll miss my Rip-Off Hattori-Hanzo Style Slinky Fireball.
Future Characters: I'm a bit concerned over how their female characters will look; I think this is part of what makes or breaks character design in fighters. I've liked their modeling so far, so I hope to like Orchid when she shows up.I also think this is a good fighter to have a female that DOESN'T look like a super-model; a more muscular, or more voluptuous woman could really add something to the roster that's unique.
Gameplay: I love seeing things like Cross-ups, Tick throws, Useful Normal throws, and Command normal in KI. I like the fact that Thunder is closer to an SNK Grappler / Abel than a classic Capcom grappler. I also like the simplicity of the motions so far; I have no problem with complex moves by themselves, but I hate movesets that layer moves atop each other in dumb ways, making it easy to get the wrong moves at wrong times. These here seem to avoid that. And so great to see the Frame Data RIGHT there in the movelist.
Instinct mode: Seems like a good addition. I really like that it's character-specific: I think this will go a long way to making characters of similar archetypes worth specifically playing. It reminds me of the character-specific systems of Aquapazza, which I quite like. Could this make a character too OP? We'll have to see...
Music Stupid Good, of course. I hated how SFIV started off with such non-integrated music; SFII did it so well (Plus the danger music), that it felt like a step back. The amount of time they're spending on having the soundtrack dynamically bend to gameplay is beyond expectations.
Animations; Once they're refined, they seem to work very well. There's a view of saberwulf's body resetting awkwardly when thunder command-throws him in some vids, but that doesn't seem to exist in gameplay. I kinda hope we see more victory animations per character, and I wouldn't mind seeing "interactive" VS screens, like allowing you to hold a button to get different poses/animation during that time (mimicking the old KI's VS screen animations in this way.) This can all wait to later. But the actual tempo of the combos seems VERY KI, which is impressive, especially for 3D. I don't see any of that nasty "physics catching up with animation" stuff going on, either.
Humiliations / Ultimates / Stage Kills: If these get added back in, better be free (heck, make them earnable in story mode or something). I still think it'd be a good idea to work them into the Ultras (hold a different button at the end of ultra for a different ending animation, for example), so they could even be a natural facet of high level play, and not just something that you'll never see but in casuals.
But I'm glad they're not wasting character dev-time on them right now, and glad the character design hasn't suffered because of their inclusion (such as how MK keeps character very similar, so that fatality effects could be re-used without too much per-character modeling.)
Stages:, I hope we see some with people in the background! I'm always a fan of lively stages. But the effects of destruction have been very pronounced so far, and normally in ways that seem not to take away from the battle (I do wonder about the pieces of paper flapping in the foreground in 'Wulf's stage, that seems like a possibly bad idea.) But big YAY for character-specific stages. Each future character should come with their own stage (and music and dynamic audio effects) too, and this goes help increase the value of each download.
Character count: The amount of time it'll take them to get from 6 to 8 sounds longer than one would want. As long as "7" doesn't take to long themselves, though, I don't think it'll be horrible. As long as the characters all feel worthwhile, I can weather a lower count for a few months. (not like I don't have 100s of other games to play, or other launch games to play / buy, while waiting.)
They better feel well balanced though! I think character balance is much more significant than character count, personally. Oh, and glad there's not a non-playable CPU boss, too. They're such a waste of resources now-a-days, and always look cheap because of it.
Costumes: I think they could do good for themselves by just including these as part of the base package. (Make costumes free, fill up bundle's payspace with Killer Cuts Digital Download collection!) But having not seen them, who knows? I could see them NOT being standard with later developed character, however.
Accessories: Sounds odd, because we haven't seen anything to suggest them. I think it'd be cool if they let you do things like give Thunder his old MoHawk back, change his warpaint design, or give Wulf a more full-body fur. Or let you mix old design aspects (Jago's Lazer Sword, Thunders original Tomahawks) with the new character models (and vice-versa).
KI1 not having online: I can deal with that. Not like the original wasn't a local-only game back in the day! I do hope it gets patched in. If they REALLY want to be smart, they'd also make it a "cross buy" between XB1 and XB360, and offer a discount on the Ultra Pack, if you've already purchased it separately.
But overall, I think they're treating the property with more respect that I'd expect anyone to treat the brand, based on it's past iterations, and that makes me happy for it.
My biggest concern is "what will the game evolve into", y'know? Does the team have enough know-how to make a game that doesn't end up with 1 overly-dominant strategy, that tosses all the other work down the toilet, and just breaks it?
So far, not too much. I'll go over specifics:
Jago: I like the design, because it seems to have more personality behind it, than his old one. Any changes seem to fit him as a character. I kinda wish he had that lame little extra kick-off on his DP like he did in KI1, but that's not really significant.
'Wulf: Some of the Patchy-ness of his fur looks awkward to me, and I'm a bit sad that some of his tools seem to be lacking compared to others, but there seems to be time to work that out. I like the fact he pretty much has a carbon-copy of John Talbain's crouching fierce.
Thunder: Back in the day, I was pretty bummed with him not making it into KI 2, so I'm glad to see him back. I actually smile to see him do his knee-gut hits and headbutts in combo, after Triplax's, because that's the parts of his combos I remember the most. HE NEES TO SAY "PHOENIX" SOMEWHERE, THOUGH.
Glacius: actually has a unique looking body now. One of the things I hate most about western fighting games (Skullgirls is an exception) is how boring their character models often are. So Glacius here was a breath of fresh air. He looks like the "aggressive Sim" I'd have liked in early SFIV; While others were getting link timing and combos down, I felt like playing 'Sim took me totally away from using these features, and that made him feel a bit shallow in that regard. Seeing him combo from range makes me feel like he's a marriage of KoF XIII's Duo Lon + SF's Sim, and that's actually something unique enough to make me want to play the game based on that alone. (Not saying he'd be my Main, but I'm quite interested). Hail is a better projectile than his old one, though I'll miss my Rip-Off Hattori-Hanzo Style Slinky Fireball.
Future Characters: I'm a bit concerned over how their female characters will look; I think this is part of what makes or breaks character design in fighters. I've liked their modeling so far, so I hope to like Orchid when she shows up.I also think this is a good fighter to have a female that DOESN'T look like a super-model; a more muscular, or more voluptuous woman could really add something to the roster that's unique.
Gameplay: I love seeing things like Cross-ups, Tick throws, Useful Normal throws, and Command normal in KI. I like the fact that Thunder is closer to an SNK Grappler / Abel than a classic Capcom grappler. I also like the simplicity of the motions so far; I have no problem with complex moves by themselves, but I hate movesets that layer moves atop each other in dumb ways, making it easy to get the wrong moves at wrong times. These here seem to avoid that. And so great to see the Frame Data RIGHT there in the movelist.
Instinct mode: Seems like a good addition. I really like that it's character-specific: I think this will go a long way to making characters of similar archetypes worth specifically playing. It reminds me of the character-specific systems of Aquapazza, which I quite like. Could this make a character too OP? We'll have to see...
Music Stupid Good, of course. I hated how SFIV started off with such non-integrated music; SFII did it so well (Plus the danger music), that it felt like a step back. The amount of time they're spending on having the soundtrack dynamically bend to gameplay is beyond expectations.
Animations; Once they're refined, they seem to work very well. There's a view of saberwulf's body resetting awkwardly when thunder command-throws him in some vids, but that doesn't seem to exist in gameplay. I kinda hope we see more victory animations per character, and I wouldn't mind seeing "interactive" VS screens, like allowing you to hold a button to get different poses/animation during that time (mimicking the old KI's VS screen animations in this way.) This can all wait to later. But the actual tempo of the combos seems VERY KI, which is impressive, especially for 3D. I don't see any of that nasty "physics catching up with animation" stuff going on, either.
Humiliations / Ultimates / Stage Kills: If these get added back in, better be free (heck, make them earnable in story mode or something). I still think it'd be a good idea to work them into the Ultras (hold a different button at the end of ultra for a different ending animation, for example), so they could even be a natural facet of high level play, and not just something that you'll never see but in casuals.
But I'm glad they're not wasting character dev-time on them right now, and glad the character design hasn't suffered because of their inclusion (such as how MK keeps character very similar, so that fatality effects could be re-used without too much per-character modeling.)
Stages:, I hope we see some with people in the background! I'm always a fan of lively stages. But the effects of destruction have been very pronounced so far, and normally in ways that seem not to take away from the battle (I do wonder about the pieces of paper flapping in the foreground in 'Wulf's stage, that seems like a possibly bad idea.) But big YAY for character-specific stages. Each future character should come with their own stage (and music and dynamic audio effects) too, and this goes help increase the value of each download.
Character count: The amount of time it'll take them to get from 6 to 8 sounds longer than one would want. As long as "7" doesn't take to long themselves, though, I don't think it'll be horrible. As long as the characters all feel worthwhile, I can weather a lower count for a few months. (not like I don't have 100s of other games to play, or other launch games to play / buy, while waiting.)
They better feel well balanced though! I think character balance is much more significant than character count, personally. Oh, and glad there's not a non-playable CPU boss, too. They're such a waste of resources now-a-days, and always look cheap because of it.
Costumes: I think they could do good for themselves by just including these as part of the base package. (Make costumes free, fill up bundle's payspace with Killer Cuts Digital Download collection!) But having not seen them, who knows? I could see them NOT being standard with later developed character, however.
Accessories: Sounds odd, because we haven't seen anything to suggest them. I think it'd be cool if they let you do things like give Thunder his old MoHawk back, change his warpaint design, or give Wulf a more full-body fur. Or let you mix old design aspects (Jago's Lazer Sword, Thunders original Tomahawks) with the new character models (and vice-versa).
KI1 not having online: I can deal with that. Not like the original wasn't a local-only game back in the day! I do hope it gets patched in. If they REALLY want to be smart, they'd also make it a "cross buy" between XB1 and XB360, and offer a discount on the Ultra Pack, if you've already purchased it separately.
But overall, I think they're treating the property with more respect that I'd expect anyone to treat the brand, based on it's past iterations, and that makes me happy for it.
My biggest concern is "what will the game evolve into", y'know? Does the team have enough know-how to make a game that doesn't end up with 1 overly-dominant strategy, that tosses all the other work down the toilet, and just breaks it?
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Do we know who the next reveal is yet?
too much eslim
Member
right now we just waiting for a reveal
IOnEI Falcon
Member
The stream with Adam Isgreen and MS KI producer Torin should be on in 10 or so minutes:
http://www.twitch.tv/microsoftstudios
It's on now!!!
http://www.twitch.tv/microsoftstudios
It's on now!!!
Slamtastic
Member
Damn this game is pretty.
Next gen fighters Kreygasm
Next gen fighters Kreygasm
CassidyIzABeast
Member
uuuuuuuuullllltraaaaaaaaa cooooooooommmbboooooooo
so good
so good
GuitarAtomik
Member
FOXWULF! Thunder looks so good.
Made thread for stream:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=77798689
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=77798689
So heavy linkers are performed by holding down either the light or medium button.
Edit: but they have not 100% decided that holding the button should be the input for heavy linkers.
Also it looks like the white health acts more like recoverable health when a combo is dropped/ender isn't used.
Edit: but they have not 100% decided that holding the button should be the input for heavy linkers.
Also it looks like the white health acts more like recoverable health when a combo is dropped/ender isn't used.
GuitarAtomik
Member
You sure about that?
He's maybe a little more ripped but the majority of that extra "weight" comes from the fact that he no longer has such a cartoony waist and lower body.
IOnEI Falcon
Member
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
How long is Gamescom again?
IOnEI Falcon
Member
Ends Sunday I believe.
ACH1LL3US
Member
From what I understand, Double Helix checks out this forum.
I would like to make a suggestion for the Killer Instinct original Arcade game that is included in the $40 version of the game, PLEASE have an option for scanlines akin to what Capcom did with Marvel origins, SF3 3rd strike and Darkstalkers.
Thank you for your time
I would like to make a suggestion for the Killer Instinct original Arcade game that is included in the $40 version of the game, PLEASE have an option for scanlines akin to what Capcom did with Marvel origins, SF3 3rd strike and Darkstalkers.
Thank you for your time
dcx4610
Member
I like pretty much of all the new character looks besides Jago. I'm definitely excicted to see what the old skins look like.
As far as colors...dat pink Glacius. Awesome.
Double Helix, please give us lots of color choices like the original KI by pressing Up and Down on the select screen. It's nothing major but felt cool to have some different looks from time to time. Especially when there were radically different colors like the magma and blue Cinder.
As far as colors...dat pink Glacius. Awesome.
Double Helix, please give us lots of color choices like the original KI by pressing Up and Down on the select screen. It's nothing major but felt cool to have some different looks from time to time. Especially when there were radically different colors like the magma and blue Cinder.
IOnEI Falcon
Member
A couple of different recaps from the stream yesterday for people you haven't been in the other thread:
http://www.killerinstinctcentral.com/breakdown-of-the-killer-instinct-livestream-with-adam-isgreen-and-torin/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdNxtwZFZYY
Oh and you can hear a snippet of Thunder's theme here:
http://instagram.com/p/dVmrsCJqBQ/#
http://www.killerinstinctcentral.com/breakdown-of-the-killer-instinct-livestream-with-adam-isgreen-and-torin/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdNxtwZFZYY
Oh and you can hear a snippet of Thunder's theme here:
http://instagram.com/p/dVmrsCJqBQ/#
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Here's a suggestion, why don't they let you choose ONE character to play with for free instead of just giving everyone Jago? I think something as simple as that could go a long way with this pay model because of the limited roster at launch. Fans would love it IMO.
I think they hinted at something like that in the stream yesterday, we will see. Would be much better for sure. Let me use the character in the training room, and then let me decide which one I want for free.
Because everyone would just choose a main and not buy the game? F2p is still a model where the dev expects to make money.
IOnEI Falcon
Member
Newest character was received very, very well apparently
https://twitter.com/JustCallMeBau/status/370934649507160064
https://twitter.com/JustCallMeBau/status/370934649507160064
Jago for free in All modes, All characters playable in training, with either a selection of their tutorials, or all of it available for each one. Keep this up for all newly-released characters, so people can test-drive them as they release (something I really wish Injustice would let you do.)
Jago lets you test out the features. If you want more than that with a specific character, then you have to pony up some money.
Is 5 bucks really that different than "free", in this case? You get to keep a character for less than the cost of a magazine. And since you're buying someone other than Jago, that 5 bucks would technically get you 2 full-use characters.
If they are to rotate characters, however, they should probably limit what you can do with them. Like limit non-Jago freebies to offline only, or something like that.
And for those worried about the "Jago army online"... why? Isn't this just where you make friends with other players, and use them to give you the desired variety? It's great fighting randoms, but better to fight with some people you know, or a mix of friends and randoms.
Jago lets you test out the features. If you want more than that with a specific character, then you have to pony up some money.
Is 5 bucks really that different than "free", in this case? You get to keep a character for less than the cost of a magazine. And since you're buying someone other than Jago, that 5 bucks would technically get you 2 full-use characters.
If they are to rotate characters, however, they should probably limit what you can do with them. Like limit non-Jago freebies to offline only, or something like that.
And for those worried about the "Jago army online"... why? Isn't this just where you make friends with other players, and use them to give you the desired variety? It's great fighting randoms, but better to fight with some people you know, or a mix of friends and randoms.
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