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[Memles]

Okay, so I was searching through a giant bin of bargain games at Wal-Mart one day and stumbled upon a copy of Astro Boy: Omega Factor, and thought that I had done well. Of course, I then proceeded to be searching through a similar bin at another store, and deep down I found a copy of Fire Emblem I picked up immediately.

I'm really enjoying it thus far; I've just finished the first ten chapters and am entering the second part of the game. As a fan of Advance Wars, I'm still grasping the concept of permadeath. In the tenth chapter, I lost Dorcas and Sain due to an idiotic mistake on my part. While it seems as if they won't be re-entering the story right off the bat, I still believe that saving it was a mistake for some reason. I just really am not too big on redoing an entire huge battle like that one, and made the decision to just save it after it was clear it wouldn't affect me right off the bat.

Then, I read a FAQ...and Dorcas is in the next chapter? I'm assuming Sain ends up playing a part later, so I can't help but feel I screwed myself over. I still have the other save slot, just in case I should go back, but my basic question is whether or not I should fight the battle over again, or is the loss of Dorcas and Sain not a big deal for the future?

 

[cubicle47b]

There are two parts to the game. The first, where the main character is always the girl. In the second, you choose between playing as Eliwood or Hector (trying to remember these names correctly...). If a character dies in the first part, they're out until the second part. After that, they're out for good.

edit: All characters besides the three heroes and the kid and his sister are disposeable.

 

[Aurora]

Well I tend to go for perfection and had all characters at the end of the game.
You will not really suffer from the loss but you might regret it later.

 

[Silkworm]

Be prepaired to play battles over and over if you really want to keep all your troops. Oftentimes in the middle of a battle, enemies will suddenly attack from your flank and if you are not properly prepaired, you'll lose some of your men/women. It's a little bit like trial and error but I enjoyed it. Perhaps if I had been familar with the FE series I would have made better tactics and would not have gotten my men/women killed but in some cases I doubt it. It's all about finding the right strategy which on some of the maps takes several tries. I eventually finished the game without losing anyone which was pretty satisfying (though I don't think I recruited everyone I could have since you need to fulfill certain objectives in some of the maps to gain a member to your party). Still, I had to do trial and error with Advance Wars so it's not that different from FE (other than the penalty for losing a troop member is permanent).

 

[GaimeGuy]

Be prepaired to play battles over and over if you really want to keep all your troops. Oftentimes in the middle of a battle, enemies will suddenly attack from your flank and if you are not properly prepaired, you'll lose some of your men/women. It's a little bit like trial and error but I enjoyed it. Perhaps if I had been familar with the FE series I would have made better tactics and would not have gotten my men/women killed but in some cases I doubt it. It's all about finding the right strategy which on some of the maps takes several tries. I eventually finished the game without losing anyone which was pretty satisfying (though I don't think I recruited everyone I could have since you need to fulfill certain objectives in some of the maps to gain a member to your party). Still, I had to do trial and error with Advance Wars so it's not that different from FE (other than the penalty for losing a troop member is permanent).

It's impossible to recruit everyone on one playthrough, my friend.

 

[Ranger X]

I have a question about Fire Emblem. I have the second one and there's some battles where you can't see enemies, they are in some fog and until my characters are near them, i can't see those ennemies so i can't really plan a strategy ahead.
This battle lead me to loosing some characters and by some very cheap death of "ennemies getting out of the fog". Since i don't want my characters do die, those battles took me many tries and i ended up clearing the map with my strongest characters (that are almost invincible) but it's precious experience points wasted for my weaker characters that i would want to raise. This whole thing gives me an unbalanced feeling and it's the main flaw of the game imo.
Was there any battles like this in Fire Emblem??

 

[Aurora]

I have a question about Fire Emblem. I have the second one and there's some battles where you can't see enemies, they are in some fog and until my characters are near them, i can't see those ennemies so i can't really plan a strategy ahead.
This battle lead me to loosing some characters and by some very cheap death of "ennemies getting out of the fog". Since i don't want my characters do die, those battles took me many tries and i ended up clearing the map with my strongest characters (that are almost invincible) but it's precious experience points wasted for my weaker characters that i would want to raise. This whole thing gives me an unbalanced feeling and it's the main flaw of the game imo.
Was there any battles like this in Fire Emblem??

There are two ways to prevent, or at least prepare for such things.

1) Bring Torches and use them in battle. This will increase your field of vision and allow you to see past some fog.

2) Bring a Thief. This will stop you from having to use Torches as Thieves have a sort of "auto-torch". Basically they are not affected by the fog and can see past it.

 

[Ranger X]

There are two ways to prevent, or at least prepare for such things.

1) Bring Torches and use them in battle. This will increase your field of vision and allow you to see past some fog.

2) Bring a Thief. This will stop you from having to use Torches as Thieves have a sort of "auto-torch". Basically they are not affected by the fog and can see past it.

tks. I did notice my thief was having a larger view around him. I didn't know that was the use of torches though. I though i would encounter some dark maps or something lol
Well, it's gonna help but i doubt i will change my mind in calling this gameplay "the flaw of Fire Emblem 2". Otherwise, the game is total awesomeness.
And you do you know if there was battles like this in the first Fire Emblem?

 

[Aurora]

If in the first FE you mean the first GBA one (FE7) then yes there were battles like this.

I wouldn't call them a flaw, I found them to be a nice challenge and a welcome change to the usual 'see all' battles.
The key is to stick together and not allow the enemies to slip into gaps you have created and pick off on single units. Stay close, move steadily, bring Thief/Torches and you will be fine.

 

[Ranger X]

If in the first FE you mean the first GBA one (FE7) then yes there were battles like this.

ok tks. Anyway it's not like i hate that. It's just the thing i like the less about this OMGWTF-awesome title.

 

[Memles]

Well I tend to go for perfection and had all characters at the end of the game.
You will not really suffer from the loss but you might regret it later.

I expect as such...but I was simply wondering whether or not characters lost in the first part of the game come back in the second. It seems like there's a whole new set of characters in the second section. Am I wrong on this?

Fog of War is a real bitch, and something that also constantly bothered me in Advance Wars...and here, despite not being a huge problem for me personally yet, it's even more worrisome since you lose people forever.

 

[GaimeGuy]

I expect as such...but I was simply wondering whether or not characters lost in the first part of the game come back in the second. It seems like there's a whole new set of characters in the second section. Am I wrong on this?

Fog of War is a real bitch, and something that also constantly bothered me in Advance Wars...and here, despite not being a huge problem for me personally yet, it's even more worrisome since you lose people forever.

The first part is meant to be a tutorial. Nintendo was planning on introducing FE to North America with FE7 from the start, so they turned Lyn's story into somewhat of a tutorial.

Don't worry. Everyone returns in the main quest.

 

[Memles]

Don't worry. Everyone returns in the main quest.

Oh snap...seriously? Great news, then, thanks. I was wondering why it appeared as some sort of ending, rather than just a natural progression. This bodes well.