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Late to the party: "Team America: World Police"
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Duck of Death
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There are some simply weird parts (wtf? at the montage in the real world), but on the whole I thought it was hillarious.
America, FUCK YEAH! is simply genius.
America, FUCK YEAH! is simply genius.
BigJonsson
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I found out last week that the montage song was used in an episode of South Park years ago!
Duck of Death
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Actually, I think it IS the same song. Its a little puzzling why they would use the exact same joke twice. . .
Team Rancid
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That montage song was brilliant. Great songs.
Americaaaa.... (softly) Fuck yeaaaaaaaaaaah
Whens that coming out on DVD? No date on Amazon
Americaaaa.... (softly) Fuck yeaaaaaaaaaaah
Whens that coming out on DVD? No date on Amazon
Patrick Klepek
furiously molesting tim burton
i didn't think the south park movie was that great, but team america had me rolling
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I thought it was pretty good. Nowhere near BLU but not much is IMO.
Drinky Crow
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The hating on Hollywood celebs is getting a bit tiresome, and it's frankly stupid: what the hell can a Hollywood celeb or even Michael Moore actually do, politically, that a rich Fortune 500 CEO can't do a hundred times over more effectively?
Targeting Michael Moore is simply cheap -- it's just hair-trigger popular iconoclasty, with the added comedic convenience that comes from Moore bein' fuckin' fat. Mocking him is just a quick way to score points with the teenboys and the shitheel cryptofascist set. "People who complain in public should shut up" isn't a rallying cry for liberty in any form; rather, it's just preying on the fantasies of the brownshirt mindset. It's also utterly hypocritical, to boot.
Going after vocal but ultimately impotent celebrities just for having opinions is just facile. If Trey and Matt want to be more than libertarian posers, go after the aspect of our consumer-minded culture that fixes the cameras on 'em in the first place. Better yet, go after the cult of entrepreneurship that lets crooked CEOs and Wall Street mavens buy political favor with so little in the way of public condemnation.
South Park the Movie was funny and well-scored take on American hypocrisy. Team America was just a random collection of potshots marketed to the frat crowd. A few funny lyrics aside, it might as well just have been Something Awful the Puppet Musical.
Targeting Michael Moore is simply cheap -- it's just hair-trigger popular iconoclasty, with the added comedic convenience that comes from Moore bein' fuckin' fat. Mocking him is just a quick way to score points with the teenboys and the shitheel cryptofascist set. "People who complain in public should shut up" isn't a rallying cry for liberty in any form; rather, it's just preying on the fantasies of the brownshirt mindset. It's also utterly hypocritical, to boot.
Going after vocal but ultimately impotent celebrities just for having opinions is just facile. If Trey and Matt want to be more than libertarian posers, go after the aspect of our consumer-minded culture that fixes the cameras on 'em in the first place. Better yet, go after the cult of entrepreneurship that lets crooked CEOs and Wall Street mavens buy political favor with so little in the way of public condemnation.
South Park the Movie was funny and well-scored take on American hypocrisy. Team America was just a random collection of potshots marketed to the frat crowd. A few funny lyrics aside, it might as well just have been Something Awful the Puppet Musical.
Fresh Prince
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Time seperates the diamonds from the coal.Willco said:
IAWTP. Seriously Matt and Trey who are you to judge either?
MrPing1000
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out next friday in the UK yay
radioheadrule83
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Ragging on them might be cheap to you, but it's sure satisfying to watch. "As actors it is our duty to read the news, then say what we read on TV, as though it's our own opinion" or something to that effect illicited a laugh. How can you not like Alec Baldwin, "the greatest actor of all time"? The way their organisation became part of the battle was fun too IMO. Susan Serandon's attempt to trick them was absolutely brilliant!
I'm all for people questioning their government and the actions of authority figures in the world-- and I'm open to the possibility that some famous people do campaign with conviction and really help their causes in doing so. But I do think some people chime in for the sake of vanity, and some desire to be seen as popularly benign. I don't see any harm in having a jab at any ego-fellating assholes like that who feel like they need to educate us on the self-righteous assumption that they're any more in the know than us. If any of the people in Team America feel hard done by, boo-fucking-hoo, they can fight back can't they? Sean Penn has already made his feelings clear. And in any case, in spite of the portrayal of these actors, it's not like Team America is conveying any kind of message. It's way past border line retarded. And intentionally so.
Part of the reason it was successful for me was because it didn't take itself as seriously as some of the vocabulary used in this thread so far. It wasn't particularly good satire. It just took the World Police theme, which you could see as a representation of America perhaps, and they rampaged around the world combating terrorists, blowing up monuments and generally pissing people off. The rest is just deliberately bad use of the marionettes, elaborate models of cities being blown up, a pastiche of cheesy action movies & love stories, potty humor and an absolutely rediculous story line.
As a visual comedy it was awesome, and it scored with that kind of absurd humor that Matt & Trey pull off in South Park so much. It mightn't be a thinking man's comedy, but I think a lot of people will welcome it's light hearted approach in a time when everyone and their dog wants to force their opinion on you.
I'm all for people questioning their government and the actions of authority figures in the world-- and I'm open to the possibility that some famous people do campaign with conviction and really help their causes in doing so. But I do think some people chime in for the sake of vanity, and some desire to be seen as popularly benign. I don't see any harm in having a jab at any ego-fellating assholes like that who feel like they need to educate us on the self-righteous assumption that they're any more in the know than us. If any of the people in Team America feel hard done by, boo-fucking-hoo, they can fight back can't they? Sean Penn has already made his feelings clear. And in any case, in spite of the portrayal of these actors, it's not like Team America is conveying any kind of message. It's way past border line retarded. And intentionally so.
Part of the reason it was successful for me was because it didn't take itself as seriously as some of the vocabulary used in this thread so far. It wasn't particularly good satire. It just took the World Police theme, which you could see as a representation of America perhaps, and they rampaged around the world combating terrorists, blowing up monuments and generally pissing people off. The rest is just deliberately bad use of the marionettes, elaborate models of cities being blown up, a pastiche of cheesy action movies & love stories, potty humor and an absolutely rediculous story line.
As a visual comedy it was awesome, and it scored with that kind of absurd humor that Matt & Trey pull off in South Park so much. It mightn't be a thinking man's comedy, but I think a lot of people will welcome it's light hearted approach in a time when everyone and their dog wants to force their opinion on you.
Warm Machine
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People get pissed off at celebrities when they talk politics but hail them when they donate millions to help people.
Fresh Prince
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The point is if anybody was approached by a newspaper to do a vox pop, most people would make their opinion known- and strongly as well. Celebrities are the same- fans are the people who get it twisted thinking a celebrities view of the world is better than a knowledgable joe off the street.
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That's pretty damn ignorant. You have no idea why they did that do you? You have acted out emotionaly and didn't do your homework. (Just like Mr.Moore) Let's go back a couple years to Michael Moore's "bowling for columbine" when coincidentally the two were a part of that movie. If you have seen the documnetary you would know that Matt Stone attended columbine and was interviewed and gave his two cents. Well later on in the movie you will now recall a part that consisted of a cartoon that surprisingly looked just like southpark characters. Originally, Michael Moore had asked Matt and Trey to create this scene, however, when they declined stating it would have been distastful, Michael had his men create characters as though Matt and Trey "created" this cartoon. This piece of shit, Michael Moore, carryed on as though they did create and never spoke that they didn't. Matt, Trey and Michael had one last conversation.. <you fill in the blanks>..... and well, the rest is history.
Now I think that's a great reason to blow his fat ass up. He deserved it.
Foreign Jackass
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I haven't even bothered paying to see that. It looked dumb as hell, and Roger Ebert panned it for the same exact reason Drinky Crow mentioned. I might rent it when there's no movie left for me to see, in 1300 years or so.
UtadaBarkley
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fart said:
lol! This thread = 8/10.
Drinky Crow
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Does the AUDIENCE have this context? They simply went for the easy gag, history or no, knowing that their fratboy audience will eat it up: know-it-all liberal gasbags get murdered in effigy for daring to have anti-war views. Pointing out that Michael Moore is a fatty is like putting the tweak on a really cheap trick. Given the current disrespect among many Americans for any hint of dissidence or antiwar sentiment, it was pretty fucking irresponsible of them -- especially when they've gone to such pains in the past to educate us all on their little pseudo-libertarian ethos and their contempt for popular institutions.
What did Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, and Janeane Garofalo do to them? Outside of being educated on the current issues and cashing their Hollywood capital in for a little public moralizing in a heavily divisive climate, that is?
Trey and Matt are simply the same sort of overwrought, hyperbolic opinion-mongers they accuse folks like Barbra Streisand of being. Sure, they couch it in a rebellious, pottymouthed attitude, but at the end of the day, they want the same thing Sean Penn does: extra airtime for being famous.
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