H2K threw 5k in the baron pit.
League of Legends Championship Series: Season 6
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H2K threw 5k in the baron pit.
Imperfected
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I'm going to be honest, Europe is so fucking boring this split the only thing I actually care about is whether or not Forgiven can single-handedly save Greece's economy.
WaterAstro
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QG got whooped.
Mata is god.
Mata is god.
BolognaSoup
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Lucian, Thresh, Victor, Corki, Graves etc.
Every. Single. Game.
Does riot have any idea how painfully boring this is?
Every. Single. Game.
Does riot have any idea how painfully boring this is?
The meta is always going to have top picks that are pick/banned every game until they are nerfed/other champs are buffed. The bigger problem is the first 20 minutes of every game being pve. That needs to be dealt with and I'm certain riot knows this.
BolognaSoup
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I started watching since season 4 and it's been all Corki Lucian and Thresh since then and a few others. There are probably 50-60 champions I haven't seen more than once if ever.
What about Lulu that is pick or ban since worlds.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
those champs arent seen because they're garbage.
At a professional level of play, some traits are just really important to have access to (mobility, playmaking/breaking, pick potential, terrain control) and so the champs that have those things in their kit are important picks even if they aren't that strong. Contrariwise, if you don't have those things in your kit, even if you're good you won't necessarily get picked. Lee Sin is a great example of a champion that has so much mobility and playmaking that he still sees picks in season 6 LCS despite being one of the lowest win rate junglers in the game right now.
For the specific champs you mention, Corki and Lucian have very strong dashes and windows of power that differ from other ADCs (Corki has shifted around a bit, but he has always provided more midgame magic damage, and Lucian has always been the most mobile early aggro ADC). Thresh just does everything a support needs to do at least a little bit and so is a safe pick into most comps and situations. (cf. Elise jungle.)
I just watched the new episode of TSM Legends and Cloud 9 Genesis. It blows my mind the difference in the two teams right now, the comms of TSM feel like a solo Q team talking on Skype for the first time. Cloud 9's comms sounded so clean and efficient with Hai shot calling the micro and teammates communicating info to everyone. There is a clear hierarchy with Hai being clearly at the "top" of comms while others just communicate info on a lower level. It's not even like Hai is yelling and the others are whispering, there is just a clear hierarchy somehow. Then watch TSM's shotcalling and there is a clear disconnect between the players.
Cloud 9:
https://youtu.be/Lrkz4E_tOzw?t=9m25s
https://youtu.be/Lrkz4E_tOzw?t=10m20s
Game winning fight: https://youtu.be/Lrkz4E_tOzw?t=11m34s
TSM:
Vs. Dignitas: https://youtu.be/bfp47yz2WmM?t=17m27s
Cloud 9:
https://youtu.be/Lrkz4E_tOzw?t=9m25s
https://youtu.be/Lrkz4E_tOzw?t=10m20s
Game winning fight: https://youtu.be/Lrkz4E_tOzw?t=11m34s
TSM:
Vs. Dignitas: https://youtu.be/bfp47yz2WmM?t=17m27s
Imperfected
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I don't even just mean in terms of the actual games. None of the teams feel like they have an "identity" to speak of. I've watched every game this split, but if you asked me what team (insert random European player) is on, I probably couldn't tell you.
Even the EU pre-recorded spots are terrible. What was even the point of that one with Rekkles? "I used to have tons of fun with the guys last season, we'd joke and have whacky antics and... uh... the new roster, that doesn't happen anymore, really." Oh, well, thanks for the completely unsolicited depression Riot, are you not screening these segments or was this really the least sad interview you could get with the guy?
I seriously care more about Forgiven's personal problems than everything else in EU LCS at the moment, and I don't even particularly like Forgiven as a player or care about his team. It's just, well, something in this sea of bland.
I guess I'm super excited bout all the LCS broadcasts I watch because I love the announcement crew (although I dont know all their names). The broadcasting feels so top notch
And I can easily watch older vids spoiler free via the lodEventVids link yall gave me
Granted I'm super casual. I really only watch IMT games. I only watch EU games live streams if it happens to be on. But yeah, I'm really all about IMT this season on NA side. Also interested in getting caught up on some Korean games
Lol! Yeah these pro teams cant afford to screw around apparently
I usually always hide the chat when I watch the streams live. just feels like a stream of spam to me mostly and funny pics. But interesting to read some people enjoys them a lot
And I can easily watch older vids spoiler free via the lodEventVids link yall gave me
Granted I'm super casual. I really only watch IMT games. I only watch EU games live streams if it happens to be on. But yeah, I'm really all about IMT this season on NA side. Also interested in getting caught up on some Korean games
Lol! Yeah these pro teams cant afford to screw around apparently
I usually always hide the chat when I watch the streams live. just feels like a stream of spam to me mostly and funny pics. But interesting to read some people enjoys them a lot
Cloud 9's team has been mostly the same for several years now, and although Hai has bounced around from position to position he's always been the leader and pretty much directly managed every action everybody else took in the game. There are weaknesses to a command-and-control style -- just look at them when Hai isn't playing -- but, you know, there's a reason military units are organized that way. For immediate and coordinated tactical responses, it's a pretty strong approach.
By contrast, it's not just that TSM has a mostly new team. No two players on TSM have played together before this season. It really IS a solo q team, just, you know, a solo q team with one of the best players in America at each role.
props; well thought out post there. Very true I think
Kotetsu534
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Very excited to see Echo Fox bring the fight to TSM and IMT this week. Their record looks average, but since getting Froggen and kfo in the team for the last two weeks they've gone 4-0 against Renegades, NRG, Liquid and Impulse and could well make playoffs.
Imperfected
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"C9 has the best AD carry in Sneaky..."
Wow, Phreak, you actually got that out with a straight face. Do you even believe it?
Wow, Phreak, you actually got that out with a straight face. Do you even believe it?
He is not wrong though. Sneaky is by the the best adc in NA.
Imperfected
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If you've got an impassioned argument with some power-point slides for why Sneaky is the 5th best ADC in NA, you can maybe win me over to your way of thinking.
Kotetsu534
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He went on to claim Hai was quite possibly the best shotcaller in all LoL history so I'm thinking he was in troll mode.
Feng is bad. They need to get a challenger guy tbh
Imperfected
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Is the "great cast on the day" thing like a Reddit meme or something?
Stop saying that before the last game is over.
Stop saying that before the last game is over.
Pretty good game by TSM, Froggen playing well though. I really don't think Gragas and Malphite together are a particularly good combo. Their profile is too similar except for the part where Gragas's ult prevents Malphite from ulting (and in fact I don't think we even saw a Gragas ult that game). TSM's team kind of just generally stronger at poke and teamfight, no reason to lose.
#TILTHUNI.
Imperfected
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Unbench the French!
If anybody can do it, Darshan's Fiora can.
Udyr is a potentially okay pick here if the plan is to dump on Gragas hard early and steal his entire jungle. Outfarming ReignOver is kind of a high bar though.
I'm really unconvinced by the Ezreal though. Seems like exactly the wrong power timing for the rest of the team.
They doing it. They employing the TiltHuni strat.
Okay, that's a pretty tilted Huni. Great play so far from CLG -- Aphro Barding it up to keep the jungler behind, they get the dive bottom first, and then ReignOver tries to Immortal it up by getting it back with aggression and ends up feeding another kill. Casters pointing out that Darshan's flash under the turret shows he knew there might be a gank incoming and without it he'd have died to ReignOver and probably given up the double kill.
All eyes on WildTurtle now.
edit: Wow! RO down again. The Udyr is real. This is going to be a big test of Immortals.
All eyes on WildTurtle now.
edit: Wow! RO down again. The Udyr is real. This is going to be a big test of Immortals.
It could also be because Ezreal into Lucian is a pretty dumb pick unless your plan is to wait forty minutes. But WT's solo kill there was pretty hot stuff, classic Turtle work.
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