Two kills, one target?
.-Town Ynnek blocked an NK
-Scum Ynnek blocked the SK
-Scum or SK withheld a kill to frame Ynnek's target
Two kills, one target?
.-Town Ynnek blocked an NK
-Scum Ynnek blocked the SK
-Scum or SK withheld a kill to frame Ynnek's target
Ynnek you already gave us your night actions right? Any items or other unusualness to report?
Don't you sneak out of here Absolut. You had time to throw shade you have time to claim.
I dont get it AB, you are here to make a post but dont stick around to follow up ?
Why post at all then ? I just makes you look bad mate.
And like most left I think, I'm ordinary town.
Damn this game has a lot of ordinaries.Uh, like most mornings I posted and then went to make breakfast. Sorry I was hungry? I guess?
And like most left I think, I'm ordinary town.
Damn this game has a lot of ordinaries.
Oh yeah I forgot the lovers. Still on the low side, but I guess the item giver is supposed to make up for that?I mean, I thought that too, but consider we've got lost 5 so far in a twenty person game:
Doctor - Sorian
Watcher - Kawl
Lover1 - CzarTim
Lover2 - Natiko
Item Giver / Innocent Child - Ty4on
AND we know there's a Serial Killer in the mix.
Oh yeah I forgot the lovers. Still on the low side, but I guess the item giver is supposed to make up for that?
Kyan what's your analysis on a scum lynch followed by 2 townie deaths?
While claiming this wouldn't be believed anyway, we can assume that Ty4on hit town when he handed out the bomb. They knew that a confirmed Ty would be the most likely kill, so instead of risking passing the bomb to another town, they simply tossed it to him.
No I was being lazy and wanted you to do the math for me 😃You looking for my general thoughts on the matter or do ya wanna me to RP scum POV or something?
Scum wouldn't give the bomb to TyThis seems too safe a play to me. It would have no real gain in it. Why not treat the bomb as a delayed vigishot and give da bomb to someone who you thought was scum?
But how then to explain the single kill and the bomb ending up with Ty? am confuse
No I was being lazy and wanted you to do the math for me 😃
I want to know if we can lynch scum or it has to be the SK today. I guess we're safe either way.
So is killing SK a town loss is what I wonder?
3-2-3 turns into a 3-1-3, 4-1-3 turns into a 4-0-3 for night five. In 1st case, as long as the scum kill hits, the votes are 50/50 on day six. While this does not fulfill the scum wincon, they will be able to force it via a tie. Town loss unless town has an additional ability. The same scenario happens in the second alternative.
Based on the NK targets we've seen, the SK probably has a lone survivor win conAssuming scum kill. SK kill, scum kill:
3-2-2 / 4-1-2 on n5
t,t - 1-2-2 / 2-1-2
same.t - 2-2-2 / 3-1-2
t,n - 2-1-2 / -
t,sk - 2-1-2 / 3-0-2
n,t - 2-1-2 / 3-0-2
same.n - 3-1-2 / -
n,sk - 3-0-2 / -
s,n - 3-1-1 / -
s,sk - 3-1-1 / 4-0-1
The specific scum lynch into two town deaths scenario puts us into a place where the SK's vote, in the best case, will decide if the game will continue or not. I am assuming the SK can win with scum but not with town (all threats to town etc.). Thus, they should vote with scum to lynch town. If they read the scum correctly, scum and SK win. If they don't, well, more possible scenarios.
Town cannot win without killing the remaining threats in correct order I think. Scum first, SK last. I'd go with calling this a mylo, even though that ain't technically true.
I never get why people keep thinking this will save them. If it did, Blarg would be a GAFia Master.And to all people who were like "hurr durr kyan is scum such panic"
well
this is the reason why I want to stay alive. So please, if ya want me death, make a better case than that.
I mentioned kyan, but my phone used its stupid autocorrect.juan from sweden
fuck you all
I never get why people keep thinking this will save them. If it did, Blarg would be a GAFia Master.
...so Absolut, why didn't you tell us about the item Ty gave you on N3?
It's the same order
Sophia
AB
Terra
I wanna block AB :/
Both of those posts are from day 4, the day after he passed you an itemlol found this while I was looking into *Splinter and Kyan
Yeah, Ty4on would totes be passing me an item last night.
Also you searched Ty4on posts to look into me and Kyan?lol found this while I was looking into *Splinter and Kyan
Yeah, Ty4on would totes be passing me an item last night.
Both of those posts are from day 4, the day after he passed you an item
Also you searched Ty4on posts to look into me and Kyan?
No, you searched Ty4on's posts to find the breadcrumb that led me to you.
Care to Share? Or did I miss the post where you did?Also you searched Ty4on posts to look into me and Kyan?
No, you searched Ty4on's posts to find the breadcrumb that led me to you.
Essentially, yes. Although I wouldn't say "immediately", his scum read on you ramped up throughout day 3.So your argument is that he passed me an item, and then immediately thought I was scum afterwards?
I didn't find a specific breadcrumb, but then again I didn't even look yet. From Ty's focus throughout the day it became obvious to me where his last item went.Care to Share? Or did I miss the post where you did?
I didn't find a specific breadcrumb, but then again I didn't even look yet. From Ty's focus throughout the day it became obvious to me where his last item went.
Way to be town man...boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
VOTE: AbsolutBro
ok scum you now have the votes
hf
We start off with just a bit of "well maybe" and defense. This is to set *Splinter up as reliable to Nin, whom *Splinter had just "cleared". This clear means little if *Splinter is Scum; he knows Nin is either town or the SK (who isn't going to argue against being cleared as town). This line in particular:Nor should you (AB note: "you" refers to Nin) die in my opinion, Splinter would be the one to go for if one would want to know what you two really are. Might need to kill you both to be sure, hopefully that is not needed. While Splinter's alignment is still bit hazy, I do not really see a good reason for scum to do what he did. Thus, I feel he and you can be trusted as long as there are more convincing cases to follow.
For clarity, if you don't mind answering, was it a role cop or alignment cop?
Leaves Sophia, Absolut, myself, Ynnek, Bronx, Terra and Magnum. If I am correct with my theories for once, three scum and a very serious killer among those seven.
I read Absolut. Im not really surprised that it is he who brings me up. His past read posts have mentioned his suspicions about me. I can see concerns about my shitposting and some negative feelsTM. The suspicion now doesnt just jump out of nowhere. Im interested to see where this goes and which persons choose to go what way. Healthy suspicion or testing the waters? Well see, as the door is open until the day end.
Don't see myself voting for Absolut today, at least for now.
11. [m] *Splinter - I suck at reading *Splinter I think. This post reeks. "Kyan's post is fluffy, so I'm going to make my post equally or more difficult to read just to highlight that." Wut. OTOH, he's right. The post he's quoting is a giant "I wanted to wait until we had definitive information, so I waited until after the lynch to ask." One sentence; point *Splinter. He was the first to mention cabot being alive being strange though. If scum kept cabot alive for a reason, why be the first to mention it?
14. [m] Kyanrute - The "lol-not-scum" posts still bother me a bit. I know Kawl said it's nothing, but Kawl's dead. Kyan's back and forth with *Splinter, I frankly can't tell if it's two town bickering or two scum pretending to bicker. But it's so late in the game I really don't feel like scum would be drawing attention to each other like this. Town/Scum mix? I would put my vote on Kyan being scum before *Splinter.
I'm not claiming yet because the less trusted people should be claiming first, plus I think I already claimed ordinary so there's not much to say.
We will start with this post from Kyan. It's longer than I would like to quote, but I will bring the relevant parts out. I linked the post so you can see them in context though.
We start off with just a bit of "well maybe" and defense. This is to set *Splinter up as reliable to Nin, whom *Splinter had just "cleared". This clear means little if *Splinter is Scum; he knows Nin is either town or the SK (who isn't going to argue against being cleared as town). This line in particular:
"While Splinter's alignment is still bit hazy, I do not really see a good reason for scum to do what he did."
is telling. *Splinter's alignment at this point isn't "still bit hazy", it's completely unknown.
It's also important to note, I asked *Splinter about this clear:
He never answered.
What really caught me eye though, and I mentioned it earlier, was this:
There is nothing at this point to clear *Splinter of being the SK, but Kyan does. Why? My guess? It's a mental slip because *Splinter is one of his scum buddies.
When I call him on it? He could have just said "whoops, my bad, you're right." But no, he doubled down. First he tried to brush it off, then off handedly dismiss it with "better targets out there".
When I pressed him on it he just got more defensive.
Remember when we did my little experiment? And I commented I needed to reread Kyan because I thought it was odd no one mentioned him? Kyan's answer:
I have mentioned Kyan all of twice until the experiment. Once in a D1 read list of "why speculate on Ty4on's PR" and then this:
But apparently, that's enough to "not be surprised it's [me] who brings him up".
And so now, during a crucial day, *Splinter comes out of nowhere with "you lied to us", when Kyan's neck is on the line. He backed Kyan's call for a mass role claim after Kyan got called out for being RBed on a night with one kill. But wants you to think he's above suspicion:
I will be afk for a bit, but I will try to be on mobile.