I worded this poorly. I meant "You can win, and we can win" our conditions are not mutually exclusive (compared to a SK).
Killing us will not get you any closer to town's end goal, only scum's.
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Love Boat [Mafia] |OT| Till Death Do Us Part
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I worded this poorly. I meant "You can win, and we can win" our conditions are not mutually exclusive (compared to a SK).
Killing us will not get you any closer to town's end goal, only scum's.
Giant Panda
Member
Why did you use your ability on the town tracker? You expect us to trust you have you tried to sabotage us like that?
It's a great question. Especially when we were already out in the open.
I didn't. Kark's hit is on my head, but I didn't target him. I targeted Magnum and Batsnacks (I wanted to make Magnum talk more since he's been relying on Batsnacks a lot of the game). I'm guessing maybe a switcher moved them and Kark?
Remember the good old times, when Coppa was vehemently against the idea of a harmless neutral?
Which language did it suggest?
To be fair, our role can hurt or help. It's gotten us Ultra/BooBoo, but unfortunately Coppa's action apparently got switched onto someone helpful.
SCUMM.
Oh that's a bug in their algorithm. It's actually written in NEUTRALL. Try throwing it through that, it should return something like
El Topo did you get a message that you were chatblocked in a PM? or was there a chatblocked message in your chat room? did the chat block message specify who it was targeting, like "this chatbomb is for el topo and panda", or was it more generic like "you got chat blocked, son!".
True, but the switcher seemingly has no reason to stop what they're doing when you are still alive, why would they all of a sudden switch to them?
1) No. I'm claiming a switcher (or some other interference) made my target on batsnacks hit YOU. No switcher hit us.
2) We cannot communicate outside of this thread. The person who's claiming a switcher hit YOU and Batsnacks was ME. FLAME is the one who is sure we hit BooJay. We're both just now finding out the information from the other.
I know this has little to do with the current convosation but just putting it in as I ain't able to post as much as I'd like so wanna get my thoughts out there as and when I can.
The Batsnacks shenanigans from end of yesterday/start of today. I wasn't really buying it a whole bunch but in post 3523 he gives a reasoning for why launch may have been killed. Launch unvoting in that scenario can be seen as a pretty pro town move (after all scum would have just let the time flux vote go through) as to get more info. So killing off a player who could point to that as evidence of pro Townes and swing convosation easily (sorta like Kark is) makes some sense. I'd still like more on this.
I'm not to knowledgable in neutral roles, but would this role be kind of easy? If they get through 4 nights then they would effectively win right? (Unless the mafia chat is unable to be blocked).
The Batsnacks shenanigans from end of yesterday/start of today. I wasn't really buying it a whole bunch but in post 3523 he gives a reasoning for why launch may have been killed. Launch unvoting in that scenario can be seen as a pretty pro town move (after all scum would have just let the time flux vote go through) as to get more info. So killing off a player who could point to that as evidence of pro Townes and swing convosation easily (sorta like Kark is) makes some sense. I'd still like more on this.
I'm not to knowledgable in neutral roles, but would this role be kind of easy? If they get through 4 nights then they would effectively win right? (Unless the mafia chat is unable to be blocked).
PM and a post in our thread. There is no specification who was targeted, if that's what you mean.
In regards to the last point here, yes it is kind of easy in pure win conditions, but I believe that's why we weren't given a chat. Us not having a chat makes coordination that much harder, which makes us stick out more, which makes people more likely to lynch us.
We don't know if it hits scum chat or not. Assumedly not, as otherwise that'd be extremely powerful. Since Ultra/BooBoo never came forward with being interrupted, that leads us to assume they are scum.
We have no idea if the attempt on Ultra/BooBoo counts as a blocking of communication, since it seemingly didn't happen. We could find out tomorrow if we make it that far.
interesting
if this was just a generic chat block message in the chat room that didn't specify who was targeted
maybe when scum boojay got targeted, the whole scum chat was blocked with this generic message, and none of the scumbros could guess who was targeted, so they remained silent instead
but if it also came with a PM....which I assume goes directly to the targeted pair, then there's little reason for scum boojay to keep silent on this
I think it makes sense for scum to stay silent on this:
1) If it doesn't work on scum, obviously they would never know it happened so they'd stay quiet.
2) If it does work on scum and blocks ALL of chat, wouldn't each of them have received a PM? They might have been waiting to see if any of the other pairs mentioned it not wanting to cause conflict between them.
magnumboy20xx & batsnacks (1)
giant panda
el topo
tl21xx
coppanuva & flame_ac (8)
kyanrute
batsnacks
karkador
zippedpinhead
magnumboy20xx
camjo-z
giant panda
tl21xx
batsnacks
ty4on
dusk soldier & karu (2)
boo boo'n
ultrajay
kingkitty & hyperactivity (0)
ty4on
hobohodo & ty4on (1)
kingkitty
ultrajay & boo boo'n (2)
coppanuva
flame_ac
el topo
coppanuva & flame_ac (8)
kyanrute
karkador
zippedpinhead
magnumboy20xx
giant panda
tl21xx
batsnacks
ty4on
dusk soldier & karu (2)
boo boo'n
ultrajay
kingkitty & hyperactivity (0)
hobohodo & ty4on (1)
kingkitty
ultrajay & boo boo'n (2)
coppanuva
flame_ac
I feel like the chat bomb not working on scum would be specified in the role description. Seems like a big detail that should be mentioned. If the role description doesn't specify, then...
1) burb didnt include it for one reason or another
2) burb forgot to include this bit
3) chat bomb can fuck scum up, as well as town
4) y'all lying
i want to believe number 3
1) burb didnt include it for one reason or another
2) burb forgot to include this bit
3) chat bomb can fuck scum up, as well as town
4) y'all lying
i want to believe number 3
A switcher wouldn't be scum, because a switcher would have no interest in switching me with another person (it wouldn't affect our result, which is the part you'd want to stop from us).
So you're hinging on a town switcher existing, and frankly, I think it would be in Town's best interest to confirm or deny your story right now.
So you're hinging on a town switcher existing, and frankly, I think it would be in Town's best interest to confirm or deny your story right now.
Dusk Soldier
Member
VOTE: Flame_AC
Blarg/Kawl tried to play off their weird role as town, when it was clearly scum.
Also, the chat bombing power has to be a scum power because the scum pairs don't have a lover's chat so they can't be chat bombed.
Running with KingKitty's point, Coppa and I don't know if it effects scum or not. We can always go for Ultra/BooBoo again tonight and then see if they remain without getting a message.
Think about the huge upside, if our power does effect scum, we've completely devastated them right now, we could, theoretically, do that again. Assuming it works on scum and doesn't just serve as a scum finder as it seemingly might right now.
A lot of people are voting with horrible reasons and inching closer to just hammering Coppa and I.
Doesn't scum have a chat? Of course they do, you're hitting semantics between a pair chat which Lovers have and then whatever scum has. The point still remains that we stop conversations from happening.
We completely devastated scum when we figured you out and put you in a corner, and now this janky claim surfaces.
The truth is, we can lynch you right now, and even if we're wrong - by your own logic, we simply lynch boojay tomorrow and stay safe from lylo. Furthermore, we reduce the risk of you guys subjecting another town player to a chat bomb. It's a win-win.
...Weird role? They were trackers. Scum trackers, but trackers. Is Kark's role weird to you now too?
Dusk Soldier
Member
Their are only 2 types of teams: LOVE and LOVELESS.
You can't be neutral because that doesn't make sense. What would your alignment be?
You just admitted to being loveless.
the alignment would be neutral
Why doesn't neutral make sense? Win conditions have never called out neutrals. Sure, sometimes it's implied, and we make a game of reading in to them, but this game has even suggested that neutrals may exist. Why do you think they can't?
Dusk Soldier
Member
I'm talking about when they admitted to being best friends and tried to play that off like they were still on the LOVERS teams.
Best friends are not lovers, they are loveless.
You realize people could very easily lie about their team names right? The fact we're being open and giving you our own team name should give you a clue that it's not loveless.
On the one hand, if Coppa/Flame really are neutrals looking to help town, leaving them alive could be a huge boon. Their power is essentially to toss a bomb at somebody and see if they claim the hit the next day to confirm themselves as town, and the fabled hero doc of N1 can keep maf guessing as to whether they should attempt to hit them or Kark/Zipped, or someone else entirely.
On the other hand... if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
VOTE: Coppanuva
On the other hand... if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
VOTE: Coppanuva
I remember when I was neutral and gave my "real" role name.
magnumboy20xx & batsnacks (1)
giant panda
el topo
tl21xx
coppanuva & flame_ac (10)
kyanrute
batsnacks
karkador
zippedpinhead
magnumboy20xx
camjo-z
giant panda
tl21xx
batsnacks
ty4on
dusk soldier
camjo-z
dusk soldier & karu (2)
boo boo'n
ultrajay
kingkitty & hyperactivity (0)
ty4on
hobohodo & ty4on (1)
kingkitty
ultrajay & boo boo'n (2)
coppanuva
flame_ac
11 Votes for majority
el topo
coppanuva & flame_ac (10)
kyanrute
karkador
zippedpinhead
magnumboy20xx
giant panda
tl21xx
batsnacks
ty4on
dusk soldier
camjo-z
dusk soldier & karu (2)
boo boo'n
ultrajay
kingkitty & hyperactivity (0)
hobohodo & ty4on (1)
kingkitty
ultrajay & boo boo'n (2)
coppanuva
flame_ac
11 Votes for majority
vote: ultrajay
I want to believe. I'm sure hyperactivity would've supported this move.
Of course, giving the neutrals (assuming they are neutrals) another possibility to block someone might be extra annoying, but at least it's not death. And if things go well for them, they should be out of our hairs tomorrow....or they'll stick around and inevitably die on Day 5.
Where is ultraboo? I want to hear their thoughts before this day gets turboed.
I want to believe. I'm sure hyperactivity would've supported this move.
Of course, giving the neutrals (assuming they are neutrals) another possibility to block someone might be extra annoying, but at least it's not death. And if things go well for them, they should be out of our hairs tomorrow....or they'll stick around and inevitably die on Day 5.
Where is ultraboo? I want to hear their thoughts before this day gets turboed.
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