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LTTP: Oldboy (2003)........I wasn't prepared for that.

(Spoilers for a 14 year old movie)

I knew absolutely nothing about Oldboy. Outside of the general premise (guy gets imprisoned in a hotel room for years and seeks revenge) and the fact that it has an American remake diected by Spike Lee, I went in completely blind to this film.

The beginning hooked me in immediately. Dae-su is a drunk businessman who just wants to get home in time to give his daughter a birthday gift.
Cue getting almost ghosted away on a rainy day and being forced to live in a tiny hotel room for FIFTEEN YEARS!
And after that, it just gets even more confusing.

Having only seen one Korean film (Train to Busan), the closest thing I could compare the mood of this movie to is a Tarantino film.
It's viseral, twisted, and doesn't pull any punches.

But as I went deeper into the abyss, the more I started to question and suspect where the movie was going.
What was Mi-Do's purpose besides being the designated love interest? How did the one behind everything set all this up and get all this money and resources? What's his endgame?

And then the fucking twist happens.
What the actual fuck? Through some contrived hypnosis and Xanatos Gambit, Joo-Weng(?) tricks Dae-su into fucking INCEST and uses it against him.
I've never seen a movie screw over its main lead so badly. I've never been so upset and shock at the antagonist getting away with their plan and seeing the main lead grovel, beg, plead, CUT OFF HIS OWN TONGUE!
And the final scene in which Dae-su tries to hypnotize the trauma away (what?) and try to live with his daughter as her lover (I assume, it's not made clear whether he still wants to be in a ...relationship with...I can't even finish the sentence. Oh God.)
I'm going to assume the hypnosis didn't work judging by Dae-su's expression shift from laughter to crying.

Fuck me, man. I left this with more questions than answers. I haven't been this mindfucked by a movie in a long time.

TL;DR: It was a crazy, surreal film that I regret not watching sooner. Contrivances aside, it was worth the watch.
 
I was told the ending was this some amazing spectacular reveal before watching the entire thing. When I finally sat down to watch it and got...THAT...ending....Yeah not for me lol
 
I....I kinda want to see more of them.

Is "I Saw The Devil" made by the same director?
No, but the actor that plays Dae-su is the villain in I Saw The Devil. It's violent and crazy and disturbing. You'll love it

The Wailing is also one to check out, for a fucked up Korean horror movie
 
Welcome to the club.

Though in hindsight...
I always found myself dissapointed in the use of hypnosis to explain a plot point and then also its use in the conclusion. Reminded me of the use of nanomachines in MGS4 if that makes any sense.
 
Welcome to the club.

Though in hindsight...
I always found myself dissapointed in the use of hypnosis to explain a plot point and then also its use in the conclusion. Reminded me of the use of nanomachines in MGS4 if that makes any sense.

Hypnosis
is notoriosly derided as a weak and lazy plot device. But the movie does drop hitnts about it from the beginning. So it's not all DEUX EX MACHINA!
 
No, it's less psychological and more visceral but still pretty fucked up and awesome.

No, but the actor that plays Dae-su is the villain in I Saw The Devil. It's violent and crazy and disturbing. You'll love it

The Wailing is also one to check out, for a fucked up Korean horror movie

Good. Now go watch the Man from nowhere.

Lady Vengeance is by the same director, and is definitely similar as well

Oldboy is part of a pseudo trilogy, you can watch those. Sympathy for Mr Vengeance and Sympathy for Lady Vengeance. Oldboy is the second one.


Well, it looks like I'm going to be thoroughly entertained and freaked out with these recommendations.
 
Go with I Saw the Devil first.
I enjoyed mr vengeance more than lady vengeance

Edit: that hallway fight scene tho in old boy
 
I can't believe I forgot to mention the hallway fight. That was such a treat going in blind.
Easily one of the best fight sequences I've seen done in a single take. That is how you do realistic fighting with weight and impact.
It puts the clumsy hallway fights in the Netflix Marvel shows to shame.

Once you finish with those watch That's Okay, It's Love for some quality romance drama.

I'm going to assume it's not an average romance drama, right? >.>
 
Get I Saw the Devil out of the way so you can watch other superior flicks :) Definitely check out Park Chan Wook's other works, like the rest of his vengeance trilogy and films like J.S.A. and the Handmaiden which came out last year.
 
Time to level up your korean movie trauma bro:
- I Saw The Devil
- Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance
- Memories Of Murder
- The Wailing
 
First reply nails it. Once you've been there you never go back. ;) What a masterpiece Oldboy is. I still get shivers when the
photo album scene
begins.

My definitive recommendations for raw and fucked up Korean movie experiences:

The Chaser
The Wailing
Save The Green Planet
 
Welcome to the world of Korean psychological thrillers

Now go watch I Saw The Devil

I enjoyed the Vengeance Trilogy, but this is one of the worst movies I have seen. It's unrelenting violence for no purpose. Shitty characters, stupid plot, bad dialogue, dumb ending... I remember the acting being good, though.

I don't understand how people love this movie. It didn't stir any emotions in me except disgust and boredom. One of the few movies I hate.

I really loved Sympathy for Mr Vengence.

9 Iron is also pretty cool.
FYI, it's called 3-Iron, and yeah it's pretty cool. It and Memories of Murder are my favourite films mentioned in this thread so far.

For more Korean things to watch, the Oldboy director made a movie with what is quite possibly my favorite movie title.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_a_Cyborg,_But_That's_OK
This one has a lovely soundtrack. All of his films have great soundtracks, actually. Lady Vengeance especially. It's about 1/3 Vivaldi, 1/3 original compositions in the Baroque style, and 1/3 other.

Example: Really good use of Concerto for Bassoon in E minor -III- Allegro in this scene:
https://youtu.be/acDJciBUtzw?t=2m5s
 
While not exactly like other films mentioned in this thread, I highly suggest you check out Bong Joon-ho's Mother as its a fantastic mystery film.
 
Next:
Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance
Lady Vengeance
 
Welcome to korean mind fuck/revenge thrillers. They are awesome and much better than Hollywood movies in that genre.

Others already recommended a few and I agree with pretty much all of them. "The Handmaiden", his newest film, is also really, really awesome but quite different from Oldboy.

Also, if you want something more lite, watch "The Good, The Bad, The Weird", which is a korean western. It also stars Song Kang-ho, my favorite korean actor (who also stars in many of Park Chan-wooks movies).

Edit:
Also, the octopus scene. Damn.
 
Sölf;248381075 said:
Also, if you want something more lite, watch "The Good, The Bad, The Weird", which is a korean western. It also stars Song Kang-ho, my favorite korean actor (who also stars in many of Park Chan-wooks movies).
Aye. I knew everybody (me incl) was missing something from their lists.
 
While not exactly like other films mentioned in this thread, I highly suggest you check out Bong Joon-ho's Mother as its a fantastic mystery film.

That's a good one.

OP, Oldboy is a great initiation film. It certainly got me into Korean revenge flicks. Some great ones:

A Bittersweet Life
I Saw the Devil
The Man From Nowhere

and there are some amazing non-revenge movies too, like Castaway on the Moon and Breathless, which are two of my favorite movies, period. The Wailing is a fantastic (but lengthy) horror film.

Since this is now a Korean movies thread, have their been any must-sees in the past 2 years besides The Wailing? It kinda feels like they lost a little momentum.
 
I'll also recommend Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance. Equally brutal in a lot of ways, but less complicated and contrived. I think I prefer it to Oldboy. I thought Lady Vengeance was iffy though.
 
Since this is now a Korean movies thread, have their been any must-sees in the past 2 years besides The Wailing? It kinda feels like they lost a little momentum.

The previously mentioned "The Handmaiden" is definitly a must see, if you haven't seen it yet.
 
First reply nails it. Once you've been there you never go back. ;) What a masterpiece Oldboy is. I still get shivers when the
photo album scene
begins.

Oldboy is also always my prime example of how a score can enhance the emotions of a scene, because fuck me did the score during
the photo album and later during Dae-Su's groveling
go from high tension to absolute dread.
 
Sölf;248381399 said:
The previously mentioned "The Handmaiden" is definitly a must see, if you haven't seen it yet.

What genre is it? I started watching something by that name a month or so ago and it was just some weird psuedo comedic thing. Is that the one?
 
What genre is it? I started watching something by that name a month or so ago and it was just some weird psuedo comedic thing. Is that the one?

I can't even really describe it without spoiling too much. If certainly has some bizarre comedy, but also erotic scenes, several twists and turns and for the most part takes place in a mansion.
 
C'mon gaf, almost a full page in and no Ki-Duk (unless the 9 iron guy was talking about 3 iron)?
 
Korean cinema is the best.. so many good films


Vengeance Trilogy
Train To Busan
The Age of Shadows
The Handmaiden
A Bittersweet Life
I Saw the Devil
The Man From Nowhere
J.S.A
Memories of Murder
A Dirty Carnival
The Good, The Bad, The Weird
The Host
Hansel and Gretel
Thirst
A Tale of Two Sisters
The Quiet Family
New World
The Wailing
Masquerade
Brotherhood
Mother

Probably forgetting loads... Most are in the revenge / thriller category. I know its a generalisation but pretty much very Korean film i've seen has been interesting, beautifully shot and features a great soundtrack.

Defintely don't sleep on The Quiet Family - its the first film directed my Kim Jee Woon (Bittersweet life, I Saw the Devil, Good/Bad/Weird) and its a great dark comedy later remade by Takashi Miike as "The Happiness of the Katakuris" which is also great.
 
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