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Swordian · May 18, 2005

Screens: http://www.nintendo.com/screenshotgallery?gameid=82ac8279-b138-4034-bd1b-e8712eb496bb

Info: " Discover the events prior to Lunar: Silver Star Story in this Real Time Strategy game for Nintendo DS featuring three new characters. Battle the forces of evil and transform Dark creatures into Light with the new Light and Dark system. Augment the abilities of your party via Battle Cards, and then exchange cards over wireless LAN with your friends."

SolidSnakex · May 18, 2005

What the hell?

Tsubaki · May 18, 2005

W... T... F...

Glad I wasn't expecting anything to begin with. GA whoring it results in garbage like Lunar Legend.

bobble · May 18, 2005

Ugh. I don't like that description OR those screens.

Kuroyume · May 18, 2005

What the f*ck did they do to Lunar?

SantaC · May 18, 2005

akascream · May 18, 2005

gaf - /usr/local> ./implode <cr>

BobbyRobby · May 18, 2005

Is it just me or does that game look nothing like an RTS?

Unison · May 18, 2005

What a fucking mess! This is more of a rape of the franchise than Grandia III!

djtiesto · May 18, 2005

Real Time Strategy? Cards? Ugh... I feel sorry for all the fans of the series, who waited what like 10 years for a brand new Lunar?

Takosuke · May 18, 2005

Yuk

this reminds me of Young Merlin

Drinky Crow · May 18, 2005

This is what the DS does to your series. Takes a classic design, and forces them to maul it by adding TWO SCREENS and TOUCH.

djtiesto · May 18, 2005

Drinky - I thought you'd be all over this once you saw it was cards... then I'm like, oh DUH, DS game. Never mind...

And it's a shame, too. Dual screens + touch screen would actually be useful in a traditional RPG.

DarkCloud · May 18, 2005

LMAO....an entire screen devoted to "Hi!"

themadcowtipper · May 18, 2005

DarkCloud said:
LMAO....an entire screen devoted to "Hi!"

Don't laugh fool, it took half of the ds power to render that HI!....

madara · May 18, 2005

Unison said:
What a fucking mess! This is more of a rape of the franchise than Grandia III!

WTF? I am really!!?

SolidSnakex · May 18, 2005

Unison said:
This is more of a rape of the franchise than Grandia III!

EGM92 · May 18, 2005

themadcowtipper said:
Don't laugh fool, it took half of the ds power to render that HI!....

:lol :lol

MetatronM · May 18, 2005

For fuck's sake.

I knew a new Lunar game was too good to be true. There just HAD to be a catch.

solarplexus · May 18, 2005

preorder cancelled

jarrod · May 18, 2005

Ugh, not good. At least GA themselves have another DS RPG coming down the line.

Hero · May 18, 2005

...What...the...fuck...

Ugh. I don't know if I'll get this anymore. Have to see how it plays...

callous · May 18, 2005

Real .. time ... strategy? What.

I like the graphics. Reminds me of Suikoden.

Lindsay · May 18, 2005

Well, that about wraps it up for ME.

*dies*

djtiesto · May 18, 2005

Lindsay said:
Well, that about wraps it up for ME.

*dies*

But I thought you weren't much of an RPG fan to begin with?

Lindsay · May 18, 2005

djtiesto said:
But I thought you weren't much of an RPG fan to begin with?

I already said before that Lunars gameplay sucked so yeah I still don't care for RPGs. But Lunar is (or was) bareable because the characters, music, and story were all magical.

demi · May 18, 2005

Takosuke said:
Yuk

this reminds me of Young Merlin

That's a good game, don't hate.

Amir0x · May 18, 2005

oh, for fucks sake...

Tsubaki · May 18, 2005

Lindsay said:
I already said before that Lunars gameplay sucked so yeah I still don't care for RPGs.

Just curious, why do you say that?

I found the gameplay to be its strongest quality, and it automatically made Lunar better than 80% of the RPGs out there.

Lindsay · May 18, 2005

Tsubaki said:
Just curious, why do you say that?

I found the gameplay to be its strongest quality, and it automatically made Lunar better than 80% of the RPGs out there.

It's battle system was cute I guess how you could kinda move your people around to avoid spells but that's about it... the stats & equipment/item system was never anything new. You could see enemies in dungeons but had little chance of avoiding them unlike Earthbound.... gameplay-wise there isn't much that sets it apart from other RPGs....

Tsubaki · May 19, 2005

Lindsay said:
It's battle system was cute I guess how you could kinda move your people around to avoid spells but that's about it... the stats & equipment/item system was never anything new. You could see enemies in dungeons but had little chance of avoiding them unlike Earthbound.... gameplay-wise there isn't much that sets it apart from other RPGs....

For the actual battling part, I really enjoyed the movement part... Most people didn't. I thought it made the game much more strategic as you had very good control over character positioning to avoid area of effect spells/attacks.

As far as the visible enemies, people generally miss the point about the advantages of them. Yes, you may not really be able to avoid them even when visible. but the best thing about visible enemies is that encounters are limited. That is to say that once you clear out an area of its enemies, you won't encounter any more. You are free to walk around.

This has two purposes:

1) Less tedium. Why fight endless battles?
2) Balance. Because of the limited nature of fights, the developer can easily revolve the game around that. Compare Lunar and Grandia where I never went out of my way to level and I played the game as is, vs Final Fantasy where at times I end up so severely underleveled that I have to spend a couple hours just leveling.

A limited number of battles allows for better game design, since it takes a factor of randomness out.

Ironclad · May 19, 2005

I was really excited for this too.

Oh well, moving on.

Deleted member 4784 · May 19, 2005

The guy's name is Glen... is he supposed to be Grandpa Glen from Lunar: Eternal Blue?

Anyways, all that I saw before were the mini maps of the town and world, which I actually liked the style of. After seeing these other screenshots though, I'm not altogether sure of what to think about this game. =\

I mean, just compare this...

To this...

They barely even look like the same game. I don't really mind the Alundra look of the character sprites, but the dumbed down look of the forest is really disappointing. I mean, there aren't even any tiles/textures or anything on the ground; just one or two of the same repeated rock sprite randomly scattered in there. They go from a very bright and cheery town map with lots of detail to a setting that looks like its out of Pitfall or something. I'd almost think that two different art teams were behind this.

The description is what really worries me, though: An RTS where you collect cards and change monsters from "Dark" to "Light"? This sounds more like Pokemon than Lunar to me. =\ If they were so intent on a mini-game utilizing DS functions (such as with the trading of cards), then why didn't they go with a gambling game or something where you use the touch-pad to throw dice?

I've been obsessed with this series since its debut on the SegaCD, so I really hope that UbiSoft or whoever is behind this doesn't break my heart.

...

Manabanana · May 19, 2005

Cards? Yayyyy! It sounds like cards are only used in relation to characters? It sounds fun to me. I guess I'm the only one, though.

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