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LV Road Rage Shooting More Info and Suspect Caught

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gcubed

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=992321

So as a follow up to the above thread, since it was locked. More info came out about the story, including the fact that the mother went home after the driving lesson, got her son and a gun and went out searching for the other driver. They apparently found him, no information on what happened, but they left and returned home, when they returned home he drove up to the house and shot her.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/17/us/las-vegas-road-rage-killing/

Tammy Meyers, a 44-year-old mother of four, had been giving her 15-year-old daughter a driving lesson Thursday when she had an encounter with another driver that left her scared and upset, Lt. Ray Steiber told reporters.

When she got home, Meyers told her daughter to go into the house, wake up the girl's brother and have him get in the car. Meyers' son Brandon, 22, brought a registered firearm with him.

Meyers drove back out of the neighborhood to see if she could find the man, Steiber said.

"The vehicles and persons found each other," he said. "Through the course of them finding each other, at one point Mrs. Meyers was following what we consider a suspect vehicle and then at another point they broke apart and Mrs. Meyers went home."

Shortly after Meyers arrived at her house a second time and got out of her car, a gray or silver sedan pulled into the cul-de-sac and a volley of shots was fired.

The son returned fire, Steiber said.
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Idiocy all around. Definitely doesn't justify killing a person, but she could have been alive today if she didn't try to escalate.



Also, they just caught the guy -
edit... a person of interest allegedly involved in the shooting

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-taking-las-vegas-road-rage-shooting-suspect/story?id=29082829
 
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NYCmetsfan

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sad someone died but I still don't understand what happened and feel there's got to be more to the story that what's been told so far.

It just doesn't make sense, I mean its possible for sure but a lot of it doesn't makes sense at this point.

The dropping the daughter off then going back out? Who would do that if they were scared for their safety?
 
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Syriel

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And it's likely to come down to a he-said/he-said conflict as both sides will likely claim that the other opened fire first.

Any defense attorney worth his/her salt is going to claim that after she tracked down the shooter (twice), they followed her to get her information and report her to police. They'll also likely claim that the son initiated the gunfire and that they only fired back in self-defense before fleeing.
 
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NYCmetsfan

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Syriel said:
And it's likely to come down to a he-said/he-said conflict as both sides will likely claim that the other opened fire first.

Any defense attorney worth his/her salt is going to claim that after she tracked down the shooter (twice), they followed her to get her information and report her to police. They'll also likely claim that the son initiated the gunfire and that they only fired back in self-defense before fleeing.
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I don't know how they can convict the person unless there is more here. Both claim they shot at each other, I doubt you can prove who did it first.
 
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gcubed

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APKmetsfan said:
sad someone died but I still don't understand what happened and feel there's got to be more to the story that what's been told so far.

It just doesn't make sense, I mean its possible for sure but a lot of it doesn't makes sense at this point.

The dropping the daughter off then going back out? Who would do that if they were scared for their safety?
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there is a large gap of no information between "mother and son with gun found the guy" and "guy shot mother at the house"

Either way, even if they were menacing, they left without firing any shots (i guess? since who knows at this point) and the guy went back to their house and shot her. Who the fuck knows.
 
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CrankyJay

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The whole family seems like a bunch of morons...his son grabbed a gun and his dad called him a hero, lol.

She went out looking for trouble and got killed.
 
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pj

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Wow at all the victim blaming in this thread.

She didn't have a gun, yet somehow it's her fault she got shot?
 
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CrankyJay

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pj said:
Wow at all the victim blaming in this thread.

She didn't have a gun, yet somehow it's her fault she got shot?
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GAF loves this term...

She'd be alive right now if she didn't try to go out and confront this guy...are you sure the son didn't start firing first?
 
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Stinkles

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The dad keeps saying crazy shit and you can tell the cops are frustrated by the storytelling.

Whole thing is sad and weird.
 
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pj

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CrankyJay said:
GAF loves this term...

She'd be alive right now if she didn't try to go out and confront this guy...are you sure the son didn't start firing first?
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Who says she confronted anyone? Maybe she just wanted a license plate and was scared that the guy would do something if she went out alone.

Who cares if the son fired first? Does that mean his mother deserved to die?

Astounding assumptions and lack of empathy here
 
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Arrogant Bastard

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pj said:
Who says she confronted anyone? Maybe she just wanted a license plate and was scared that the guy would do something if she went out alone.

Who cares if the son fired first? Does that mean his mother deserved to die?

Astounding assumptions and lack of empathy here
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She was scared, that is why she went back out looking for him...right.
 
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CrankyJay

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pj said:
Who says she confronted anyone? Maybe she just wanted a license plate and was scared that the guy would do something if she went out alone.

Who cares if the son fired first? Does that mean his mother deserved to die?

Astounding assumptions and lack of empathy here
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You don't think she knew the son had a gun? lol

She could have stayed home and that would be the end of it, but she chose to get her son who she knows owns a registered handgun, and escalated the situation by going out looking for this guy.
 
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AxelFoley

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If she would have called the cops, most likely they'd have killed the guy for her, with the rash of cop shootings these days.

I'm half-joking.
 
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DizzyCaffeine

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Road rage is a terrible thing that can make an otherwise sane person do insane things.

If you ever find yourself pissed behind the wheel because someone cut you off, please dont retaliate. Only bad things will happen as a result.
 
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Syriel

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pj said:
Wow at all the victim blaming in this thread.

She didn't have a gun, yet somehow it's her fault she got shot?
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She was with her son, who she had specifically picked up with his weapon.

At this point it was the woman and her armed son and at least one other armed person who may have had a second person with him.

Both the son and the other person fired shots.

We don't know what was said or who fired first, but this is much more than just a random "Woman goes about her day, gets randomly shot at" situation as was first presented.
 
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this_guy

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So she dropped her daughter off, told the daughter to get the brother and for him to get his gun, then goes out looking for trouble and found it? Stupid all around.
 
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see5harp

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What a bunch of idiots. Even if the dude was in the wrong and did something like flash a gun, you drive home report the incident to the police. You don't go back out with your son and a gun.
 
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Random Painted HIghway

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Oh yeah, this one took a bizarre but fascinating turn. I'm almost hoping ballistics shows that the kid shot his own mom, that would probably be the topper here. If he is in the passenger seat and firing across her, it could have happened.

Pretty fucked up family. understatement.
 
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pj said:
Who says she confronted anyone? Maybe she just wanted a license plate and was scared that the guy would do something if she went out alone.

Who cares if the son fired first? Does that mean his mother deserved to die?

Astounding assumptions and lack of empathy here
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Bullshit. You don't go HOME and then decide to go hunt for the car to get the plate number. You don't bring your son along with his gun just to write down the plate number.

It's kinda one of those things where if you don't get the plate number initially you kinda just either call the cops anyway or let it go.

They went looking for a fight.
 
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Zeke

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Everyone in this story is an idiot. Who in the fuck goes back home to pick up a family member and tells then to bring their gun? She went looking for trouble and found it no sympathy here. The shooter and her son should be locked up for life.
 
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radioactivez0r

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FYI OP, the story says the man arrested is allegedly involved in the shooting but not necessarily the shooter.

Also, I haven't figured out the mindset of going out looking for a specific car in the city, like that seems crazy to me. How would you possibly find it?
 
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BobLoblaw

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Zeke said:
Everyone in this story is an idiot. Who in the fuck goes back home to pick up a family member and tells then to bring their gun? She went looking for trouble and found it no sympathy here. The shooter and her son should be locked up for life.
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This mostly. I don't know what kinda person would go home, get their kid to bring a gun, and then go hunting for someone who flipped them off and cursed them out. It's hard to have sympathy when so much stupidity was involved. Still, unless they can prove who shot first, I don't think this is as clear-cut as many think.

radioactivez0r said:
Also, I haven't figured out the mindset of going out looking for a specific car in the city, like that seems crazy to me. How would you possibly find it?
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Wouldn't be surprised if she followed him and saw where he parked. Doubt the daughter would volunteer that information.
 
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Fusebox

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"Go'n rouse yer brother and tell 'im to git his gern, we got some car-chasin to do!"

...said no responsible parent ever.
 
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RobotChant

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This is some gangsta shit. Drops off the daughter and picks up her strapped son, so they can go roll on dudes who messed with her earlier. Then gets caught slipping in front of her own house.
 
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CrankyJay

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Mammoth Jones said:
Bullshit. You don't go HOME and then decide to go hunt for the car to get the plate number. You don't bring your son along with his gun just to write down the plate number.

It's kinda one of those things where if you don't get the plate number initially you kinda just either call the cops anyway or let it go.

They went looking for a fight.
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Hey now, don't let facts get in the way of a good chance to blurt out "victim blaming!"
 
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gcubed

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radioactivez0r said:
FYI OP, the story says the man arrested is allegedly involved in the shooting but not necessarily the shooter.

Also, I haven't figured out the mindset of going out looking for a specific car in the city, like that seems crazy to me. How would you possibly find it?
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ah, as i was posting this they were surrounding the guy trying to take him into custody, will update
 
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Frog-fu

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pj said:
Wow at all the victim blaming in this thread.

She didn't have a gun, yet somehow it's her fault she got shot?
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This phrase has gotten real fucking stupid. Does your brain not account for personal responsibility anymore? The woman was killed, therefore she is entirely blameless of any events leading up to that?
 
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CrankyJay

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Frog-fu said:
This phrase has gotten real fucking stupid. Does your brain not account for personal responsibility anymore? The woman was killed, therefore she is entirely blameless of any events leading up to that?
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It's gotten pretty bad here lately on GAF using it in every thread. It's the new sriracha.
 
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hipbabboom

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Talk about inviting death to your doorsteps. Scary stuff reminds you that you should just let some things go; its not worth it.
 
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Syriel

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According to this CNN headline, the woman and shooter knew each other:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/us/las-vegas-road-rage-killing/

CNN said:
Meyers' husband said Thursday the suspect knew where to find the family.

"We know this boy. I couldn't tell you this before," Robert Meyers told reporters. "He knew where I lived. We knew how bad he was, but we didn't know it was this bad. That he'd gotten to this point, and his friends."

Police declined to give an age for the suspect, but said he is older than 18.
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CNN said:
As the standoff unfolded, the victim's husband approached reporters who had gathered in the neighborhood.

"Are you all happy? You made my wife look like an animal ... and my son. There's the animal, a block away. Are you happy?" Robert Meyers screamed.
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CNN said:
"These guys will get away with murder now. No one gets it -- these people came to my home ... my son never shot until then. If it was the way media is pitching it, then why did son not shoot when they turned corner if he was looking to shoot (when) he had his chance?"

Las Vegas detectives two days ago had given a slightly different version of events, saying the mother drove home to pick up her armed son and went back out to look for the suspect and his car.
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norm9

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What a baffling case.

So the husband knew all along there was some guy out to get them but never mentioned it? And why's he mad at the cops?
 
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MJPIA

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This whole case is weird.
Meyers' husband said Thursday the suspect knew where to find the family.

"We know this boy. I couldn't tell you this before," Robert Meyers told reporters. "He knew where I lived. We knew how bad he was, but we didn't know it was this bad. That he'd gotten to this point, and his friends."
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Robert Meyers also spoke with HLN's Nancy Grace and told her the man threatened to kill his wife and daughter. So Tammy Meyers raced home, dropped her daughter off and summoned her son, Robert Meyers told Grace.

The son, who was armed, got into the car with his mother and they left the house. Robert Meyers said his son and wife were trying to move the car away from the family home. They didn't want the car to be recognized in front of their home.

But the other car, described as a grey or silver sedan, saw them, according to Robert Meyers.

Robert Meyers texted: "My wife and son drove away from home, bad guys following. She lost them and upon coming home turned on street, bad guys are right in front.

"After that, bad guys open fire different location. My wife got home, told her son to take cover and after he saw his mom shot he opened fire three times maybe four.
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If they knew each other and he knew where they lived why would they move the car to prevent them from finding where they lived?
And how did they get shot at in a different place and the shooters managed to beat them home to attack again?
If someone shot at me I wouldn't drive back home, I'd call anyone at home and tell them to lock down the house and call the police if anyone did anything suspicious and make a beeline to the nearest police station as fast as I can.

I imagine the son should be able to tell the police the location of the first shooting and they'd be able to investigate which could possible confirm or deny his version of the event.
Those bullets from that first shooting would've ended up somewhere.
 
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