Keru_Shiri
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I haven't been following Modern closely, but last I looked, Zoo and Tron were the DTB.
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I haven't been following Modern closely, but last I looked, Zoo and Tron were the DTB.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Pretty sure it's always been that way.
But man I really, really hated that time period where Coldsnap, Time Spiral, Planar Chaos, Future Sight, 10th Edition, Lorwyn, Morningtide, Shadowmoor, Eventide composed of the legal sets in Standard.
Dude that shit sounds brutal
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yeah, it was back when set sizes were also about 130% larger, so it was a really insane card pool.
I hated that time because Faeries was a deck and crushing everything. Loved the deck itself but hated that it was so much better than everything. Really boring standard format.
Larger card pool for each set/block would be nice. I'm pretty sure I read that MaRo said they were doing away with "small sets" in blocks from now on, though, and just doing 3 large sets in one block rather than 2 large and 1 small. That, I like.
But man, I really wish I didn't quit during original Mirrodin. Would have loved to have played original Ravnica and Lorwyn during their time.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I really really wish they would do limited print runs of older sets for the express purpose of Limited. Missing out on those sets because I didn't play Limited at the time is a huge regret of mine.
Not to mention how much it would help formats like Legacy and Modern thrive. Fuck collectors and their multi hundred dollar cards, that shit is so stupid.
So what is everyone thinking of brewing up/adding to existing decks once M13 hits? I know we still have something like 40 cards left to spoil, but its never too early to get the juices flowing.
I'll be adding to my green deck, and probably taking all the red out of it to make it monocolored (at least while Dungrove Elder is still in standard).
I also have a fun Goblin deck worked up on paper in anticipation of Krenko. Hopefully a few more goblins get spoiled in the next week, too. Spikeshot Elder and Ring of Valkas? Yes please!
I'll be adding to my green deck, and probably taking all the red out of it to make it monocolored (at least while Dungrove Elder is still in standard).
I also have a fun Goblin deck worked up on paper in anticipation of Krenko. Hopefully a few more goblins get spoiled in the next week, too. Spikeshot Elder and Ring of Valkas? Yes please!
For cards that I'll actually play there isn't a ton.
- Vampire Nighthawks for sure, my favorite vampires.
- Odric seems a lock, I'll whip up some gross token decks with him.
- That green guy that leaves a 3/3 when he leaves the battlefield is going to be in every green list you'll see.
- Vampire Nighthawks for sure, my favorite vampires.
- Odric seems a lock, I'll whip up some gross token decks with him.
- That green guy that leaves a 3/3 when he leaves the battlefield is going to be in every green list you'll see.
Keru_Shiri
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I'm drawing up ideas for a Krenko Commander deck, personally.
EDIT: I should point out that I'm starting from a list I've found on MTGSalvation and making changes to make the list my own: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=423086
What I've got so far...
EDIT: I should point out that I'm starting from a list I've found on MTGSalvation and making changes to make the list my own: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=423086
zerokoolpsx
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Oldric is good with a bunch of creatures and/or tokens. Pretty much control the battle phase once he attacks. Wish Raise Alarm was reprinted. 2 tokens at instant speed? Yes please.
Crusader of Oldric is the cheapest cmc for a creature that scales with creatures you control?
They need more vampires than just Vampire Nighthawk and Nocturnus.
Gonna have to pick up a playset of Odric eventually.
Crusader of Oldric is the cheapest cmc for a creature that scales with creatures you control?
They need more vampires than just Vampire Nighthawk and Nocturnus.
Gonna have to pick up a playset of Odric eventually.
Basically my whole plan is to use weenie red whites that don't know the fuck they're doing (with Silver Inlaid Dagger) until Odric shows up and tells them to man up.
Oh yeah, humans.
That's sexy. I'll also take Shaman man for some sick firebreathing.
STONEWRIGHT
om nom nom, say what, double strike is nasty? you don't say!
As someone with a stacked legacy collection (full set of duals, fetches, 8 Forces, basically everything besides niche stuff like some reanimator targets, Loyal Retainers, and Imperial Recruiter) that would take a huge monetary hit, I completely agree. The health of a format should far supercede anything else, especially collectors.
Same. Christ that format was boring, faeries matchups everywhere. It got better later on a bit, with stuff like 5c control (which was loads of fun to play) and Jund, but really, fuck faeries.
Keru_Shiri
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The reserve list keeps a lot of Legacy staples from being reprinted. It would take a fundamental shift in policy before Wizards will go back on that. I suspect Modern was their attempt at an eternal format where they could freely reprint singles (i.e. the heavily rumored Shocklands to appear RtR).
Then again, who knows? I remember when Wizards' policy was that Portal and it's off-shoots would never be tournament legal, but that has since changed.
Then again, who knows? I remember when Wizards' policy was that Portal and it's off-shoots would never be tournament legal, but that has since changed.
Modern will eventually replace Legacy. Legacy's time is limited due to the game's growth as there simply aren't enough cards to support the current playerbase. It's like a club good- to buy in, you have to buy someone else out.
Modern doesn't have that problem because they can reprint anything.
Keru_Shiri
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I didn't think of that. It seems like if you can untap with Krenko with any number of gobbos on the table with this in hand, you've won the game. He fits nicely behind Burn on the mana curve, at least.
Not to mention Goblin Grenade will have been used at least once by the time the Krenko/Burn at the Stake would come online. Seems like a pretty aggressive strategy.
On MTGO that's what I'm primarily seeing it in. Mono red goblin/burn decks. Krenko is just going to make those better.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I feel as if I gained a level by putting together my first stab at RDW, using Vigilante Justice and Shrine of Burning Rage.
When Krenko comes out, I'm going to make a full on Goblin deck too. I think I like building decks more than playing them sometimes.
When Krenko comes out, I'm going to make a full on Goblin deck too. I think I like building decks more than playing them sometimes.
I'm the same way. I've always been that way with both Magic, and Pokemon. Any time a game requires some sort of building strategy, I tend to enjoy the strategic conceptualizing over the actual following through with the product.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Man, I don't even get that far. I spend more time enjoying reading articles about Magic then I do building decks or playing with them.
I can't wait for Timely Reinforcements to go away.
echoshifting
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I'm with you guys. Putting together decks is why I play. Well, that and compulsively opening little foil packages.
When it comes to actually playing the game, I always have more fun in limited than constructed.
When it comes to actually playing the game, I always have more fun in limited than constructed.
I love opening foil packagesssssssss!!!!!!!
But I would love playing with you guys than some random dudes, I think. We would encourage wacky ass decks and our own "metagame" of no rules except broken ass shit can do without.
Would be awesome.
that's why i'm here. i don't even play anymore since i moved away from my playing buddies, around the time isd came out. but i still follow the new releases and reading about the cards.
i feel i should try some m13 draft events though
I'm going to attend the M13 prerelease with my new GF. She's interested and I think it will be fun for the both of us.
We should try to organize GAF Cockatrice Nights or something, once a week. Maybe post challenges for optional deck styles or card inclusions just for fun.
A GAF mtg meta would be awesome.
I'm so glad I took a break from magic right after Future Sight. I didn't come back till Zendikar.
I played a few drafts and stuff for Lorwyn and Shadowmoor's pre-release but I kept hearing people go on about Faeries and Tarmogoyfs I just didn't want to get invovled. And Alara... As much as I like multi-color sets I hate big ass jumbled multicolor sets. I tend to stay in colored pairs rather than three colors or 5 color green. Maybe I'm just stuffy on that front but I hate bleed and just jamming the best for whatever situation so I stick to colored pairs. It's a limitation on me and I get that, but its just something I can't ever budge on. I mean I'll play three color decks, I still rock a fun Bant Venser deck for Modern (originally built for standard) but I could just take the green out if I wasn't too lazy to pick up the U/W I would need to let it survive without acidic slime. I just love that card too much is the problem. It's the perfect swiss army knife.
Exactly. I've seen a lot of bawwing of BoW being reprinted and honestly its just a Rare slot and you need sets where you have "what the fuck" cards for new players. All kinds of cards need to exist in Magic. Underpowered, overpowered, niche, staples, bad cards and "oh wow you can do this in the game?" cards are what make up magic; and lots of people, including me, tend to forget this is a game about fun and not min/maxing for wins.
There was a time when big dumb, vanilla rares were considered awe inspiring. Granted that was more than 16 years ago, but its important for the game to have that. If every card was Kezzerdrix or Goliath Sphinx then yes it would be a very boring game, but sometimes you need those cards to either showcase something (vanilla rares aren't really that good) or realize that some people just really like big, dumb creatures (shudder).
I'd be surprised if MaRo said that, considering they've slashed the card pools considerably. Prior to Alara, initial sets were roughly 300+ cards and 165 for smaller sets and from Alara on they've been roughly 250 cards with 150 for smaller sets. (which also include basic land in the smaller sets for even smaller pools, usually 2 arts for each land making 10 total basic land cards). The reasoning behind it was that collecting sets were very hard to do with larger card pools, filler becoming more prominent and having less cards means tighter design.
For them to throw that out the window and just do a 250 card set every 3 months, well that's 1000 new cards every year not including new "One Ofs" they like to do in stuff like Planechase and Commander.
I can't possibly see them do that, but if they did as an experiment that would put creedence in the idea of the "Chasing Nicol Bolas across the multiverse" block I've been hearing rumors about. Which is still something I don't think they will do, not that they can't do that. But that's way, way too many cards even for them.
Card pools the way they are are fine, you still have many diverse decks and strategies, its not like going rogue on a deck building spree is impossible, its just the lack of diversity in tournaments stems from our desire to win. It's better to test a metagame and hedge your bets by win percentages than to 100 percent rogue it and try to come up with something that will beat everyone if all you care about is winning. You can't possibly test and number crunch a rogue deck as much as all the man-hours crunched into the current popular deck.
In paper magic, probably not. Printing and distributing is time and money. Now in MODO, well, thats already a thing
But I recall that you aren't a fan of it. Still they fire up tons of old school queues every week and they are still a blast to draft. Hee hee, yes, welcome to the Johnny club. Deck building is always, always much more fun than winning. Its when you can string wins together with your deck is when the curse happens and then it all collapses into a downward spiral of gnashing and wailing of teeth and hits of heroin directly to the nutsack to chase that first high ;D
I'd be down with it. Or MODO if most of us have that already.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Jesus Raichu.
Do you have to kill a Pikachu to get one?
Sorry, I word vomit.
Which store? The MTGO store? WAT? Yes please. I only collect paper magic for my roomate. I could use some more MODO stuff.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I did? you mean the werewolf one? This one is funnier. I made it like 10 years ago when someone asked me what Moe was.
Oh boo....
You know I wish there was more interaction between MODO and Paper Magic. Sorta like in how in the WoW TCG you could get scratch off codes for WoW.
Imagine what you could do with Paper Magic and Modo
They're intentionally segregated (and overpriced online) in order to protect the paper game.
Screw the paper game. This is Web 2.0.
Actually don't screw it, its fine being separate plus paper cuts suck.
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