Wickerbasket
Member
I thought you were trying to say he was a gamer just like us?
Because he's not; he's paid to spew bullshit. His opinions aren't to be trusted.
I doubt he's paid to be an asshole, but he seems to offer that service for free.
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Because he's not; he's paid to spew bullshit. His opinions aren't to be trusted.
I doubt he's paid to be an asshole, but he seems to offer that service for free.
Messofanego
Banned
You wouldn't say that if you had seen the Angry Joe interview. He comes off as a crazy person.
astroturfing
Member
yeah. it's obviously a calculated effort, and it's not like he gets to even decide what he can say. pure bullshit and some humor doesn't change anything. he would've kept lying and misleading if higher ups had told him to. i don't understand how people can even have PR jobs like his and still sleep at night, to be honest. gotta have some kind of abnormal brain activity or something, maybe. can a person who feels empathy towards others wake up every morning to mislead masses of people on purpose? how does a normal person not quit, say, a week after doing something like that?
ok i'm being a little harsh lol, truthfully i know nothing about the man. maybe he's really not very smart and actually believes what he's told to say.. sorry if that's the case. none of us are perfect.
I actually think he's paid to be one.. But anyway, what I'm saying is that he's not always that kinda guy.
I'm with you. When someone repeatedly lies to my face, especially if they get paid for it, I put them in the scummy bin and leave it at that.
Maybe other people like being lied to as long as the liar is somewhat likeable?
great post.
Ravensmash
Member
He had a bad interview, so what?
I'm not defending the MS debacle, but some of the posts aimed at him in this thread are downright ridiculous considering.
It may be a public persona, but he's often presented himself as being fairly sound and down to earth, regardless of the job he's in.
As for the topic at hand, it's at least good to see he can have a sense of humour about it. He's not the guy who implemented all of this, aiming vitriol at him seems unfair and naive - especially when people start bringing that personal shit into it.
When part of your job involves lying to millions of people in order to get their money, how do you defend that again?
This is a PR spokesperson. He job is litterally to not have a "bad interview". A PR spokespersons job is 100 % devoted to answering questions, telling corporate bullshit and be as professional as possible. How hard can it be?! He works for Microsoft!!!
katsubento
Member
Bad interview is putting it mildly.
And down to earth? Maybe online he has been...he sure didn't seem by down to earth this past week seeing him. It's possible he is a good guy...but it's also possible in my eyes that he is how he was on video this week and the online good guy stuff is the act.
He and Mattrick need to learn how to speak to people.
It doesn't even matter what you say. It's how you say it. A good PR person or leader knows how to sell a message, an order, a directive, or a product to people, their employees, their teams. MS could have avoided all of this with a better message sent during their unveiling, the E3 press conference, and all the interviews. All they sent was confusion and anger.
Does iTunes and Steam ram home the fact that they are the future, get with it, argue with you on things about your product you may not understand yet? Nope.
I do not place much faith in a company that doesn't know how to market a major product like this. Not the consumer investment side of me at least.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
So Majornelsen claims to work as a programmer on the team that builds Xbox, but in fact has nothing to do with that and solely is PR, akin to Kevin Butler? (It's really a two-part question, I don't know what his position is or what he claims his position is, I just yelled at him because of the DRM)
People on GAF rollover for psuedo celebrities all the fucking time, and this is just another example. Normally the person being taken to task atleast comments in the thread before everyone becomes a sycophant, but all the major needed to do was edit his twitter.
"Hey guys, Mj. nelson acts like a dick all during E3, fucking lies on camera straight to Angry Joe's face, but he made a funny so he is one of the boys again!"
Amazing
"Hey guys, Mj. nelson acts like a dick all during E3, fucking lies on camera straight to Angry Joe's face, but he made a funny so he is one of the boys again!"
Amazing
sure you aren't.
Messofanego
Banned
I don't think he even has a soul. Who does this unless if you're part of the Truman Show?
PedroLumpy
Member
Just because it's a guys job to lie and spew bullshit, doesn't suddenly make it okay.
Unfortunately, you seem to be completely right.
Sure it makes it ok, he's pr and that goes for any company to defend your product. What's not make ok were his actions grabbing the mic like an asshole.
Alx
Member
I don't think he even has a soul. Who does this unless if you're part of the Truman Show?
That gif shows everything I hated in the few seconds I could bear watching that video : what kind of interviewer aims his microphone more at his own face than that of his interviewee ? Ask a question, let people answer and stop talking, FFS !
I think most of those youtube people are from the beginning too narcissistic to do a decent job at journalism or anything similar. They're too focused at being at the center of a video.
Even if it's a calculated move for PR purposes?
PedroLumpy
Member
Why would I care that it's his job? He's still trying to deceive me. The fact that he gets a paycheck doesn't really make me feel much better about him lying to me.
Acheteedo
Member
Lighten up.
DigitalRicket
Member
And LeBron James is paid millions to literally not have a bad game ever. Chill, these are just people. Do you go toe to toe with the people selling you big macs and asking, "how can you sell this stuff? You're lying to me that this is real beef!"
I've actually met Major Nelson multiple times, once at E3 and another time at the end of MS's old CES keynotes and the dude is super chill. This is his job. Maybe you should picket outside his home in Seattle and tell him he's a horrible person when he's at the gym.
He's part of a company that sells products. Entertainment products. They are not necessary items for sustaining life. Why weren't you as upset with Chris Nolan for promising you an epic conclusion to the Dark Knight trilogy? in your words, he gets paid like literally millions of dollars to not make a "bad movie" But if you went to see it, paid money for it, and then didn't get what you were expecting then he essentially was lying to you. I bet he lied to you just so you'd go see the movie, huh?
I think this thread shows how accepting people are with pure and utter bullshit that has been thrown their way.
I don't think it's filtered down to some of you but he wanted you to buy a $500 console. With all manner of restrictions in exchange for family sharing that is restrictive in of itself.
Now MS has done a 180 and taken off that feature which is very "I'm taking my ball now and going home" with the intention of having everyone blame each other for this feature being taken off the table.
If MS had publishers and developers interest at heart we would see MS trying to balance both digital and physical format gaming. What we actually see is that they had grand plans to screw consumers over in the name of developers and publishers.
If MS wanted they could allow us to sell our digital game's...but the issue is they wanted a closed eco-system and not one they have to battle with physical 2nd game's market too. That's too much work for them and they would have to compromise and actually offer the consumer good deals to compete with GS or brick and mortar stores.
MS need to start thinking less about a way to dominate a market and more about ways to get the consumer to spend money willingly. They're constantly thinking of ways to have a closed eco-system but they don't want to bend over to developers, publishers or consumers to create a viable one ala Steam or iTunes.
I don't think it's filtered down to some of you but he wanted you to buy a $500 console. With all manner of restrictions in exchange for family sharing that is restrictive in of itself.
Now MS has done a 180 and taken off that feature which is very "I'm taking my ball now and going home" with the intention of having everyone blame each other for this feature being taken off the table.
If MS had publishers and developers interest at heart we would see MS trying to balance both digital and physical format gaming. What we actually see is that they had grand plans to screw consumers over in the name of developers and publishers.
If MS wanted they could allow us to sell our digital game's...but the issue is they wanted a closed eco-system and not one they have to battle with physical 2nd game's market too. That's too much work for them and they would have to compromise and actually offer the consumer good deals to compete with GS or brick and mortar stores.
MS need to start thinking less about a way to dominate a market and more about ways to get the consumer to spend money willingly. They're constantly thinking of ways to have a closed eco-system but they don't want to bend over to developers, publishers or consumers to create a viable one ala Steam or iTunes.
BruiserBear
Banned
No, they did not have to cancel their whole online infrastructure. The people who were going to be online are still going to be online, and the people who want to be offline are still going to be offline. Basically nothing has changed on their end. I have no idea why people believe differently.
Even the Giant Bomb guys said this the other day. *facepalm*
Dictator93
Member
no, please do tell!
Who's fault is it? He doesn't have to take the money....
Joel Was Right
Member
If you read some of his tweets, he did not approve of the change.
legacyzero
Banned
#DEAD
Alx
Member
Because if nothing had changed, all the features they had planned would still be available for people buying digital, and they're not. Their change wasn't "we disabled DRM for people with discs", but "we disabled everything, we're back to the 360's system".
He says what he is told to say, because that is his job.
Almost all of us here would do the same if directed to from our employers in order to keep our job.people make it sound like lives were at stake.
Pro tip: Anyone speaking to the press from any major corporation (also Nintendo and Sony) are heavily coached from their pr departments before hand because of sites like this.One misstep and things spiral out of control (Adam Orth..)
Almost all of us here would do the same if directed to from our employers in order to keep our job.people make it sound like lives were at stake.
Pro tip: Anyone speaking to the press from any major corporation (also Nintendo and Sony) are heavily coached from their pr departments before hand because of sites like this.One misstep and things spiral out of control (Adam Orth..)
Because it invalidates 100% of what he said prior to the change, It's a admission of defeat that makes him look absolutely transparent. I think he may have believed that they could convince gamers that the policies were a good thing.
Wickerbasket
Member
Yeah, and that's all on Microsoft. They decided to cancel their digital plans because they couldn't get their way on removing customer's consumer rights.
They could have kept the system for digital purchases, but that would have benefited consumers who purchased digital.
Honestly though, I don't think they had really thought through their sharing system; it all seemed like smoke and mirrors in the first place. I think the real issue was that it never existed.
BruiserBear
Banned
Wickerbasket
Member
You can't pass on your digital purchases once either; sucks for digital buyers I guess.
Why Microsoft had to take that away is anyone's guess.
"we won't comment yet as we do not have it finalized."
No lies, no pushing anti-consumer initiatives as "great features". That was easy.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Are you on the development team? I wasn't thrilled about the way he responded to Joe at all. Rubbed me the wrong way
Alx
Member
Family plan, playing without your disc, transferring your licence to someone else, plus the deals between publishers and retailers about the used market... so everything that was new compared to the current system. So in short, yes they threw everything away and replaced it with the old system they had available. A flick of a switch, but a BIG switch.
Caayn
Member
It wasn't the most polite way to respond. But look at it this way: How would you respond if the internet is extremely negative towards you and constantly asks about the DRM? I know that I would probably make a slip up atleast once or twice.
it's the job of the PR guy to manage just that... not to dismiss the difficulty of his work (it's hard to portray bad policy in a good light) but he could have just said "stay tune for more information... or we cannot comment further on that at this moment"
He says what he is told to, period. It is not his job to improvise
Get a job, go to a trade show and I dare you to not speak the company line when speaking to potential customers