Man attempts to kill artist of the controversial Muhammad cartoons, and is arrested.
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Sir Fragula said:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," say Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promply vanishes in a puff of logic.
elrechazado
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And we see why people like in the OP are trying to kill journalists. smh dude, that's sad.Kozak said:
I'm not Christian either.
Just from a quick google search
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=images of violent jesus&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
Plenty of similar images of Jesus, don't think any caused an uproar.
Just from a quick google search
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=images of violent jesus&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
Plenty of similar images of Jesus, don't think any caused an uproar.
Who gives a shit if someone drew a picture of Muhammad with a bomb in his turban? If that offends you or affects your "faith," then maybe you need to re-evaluate the strength of your beliefs.Kozak said:
Right now, I'm drawing 10 pictures of Muhammad naked with dynamite up his ass, and there's nothing you can do about it. Take your bullshit superstition elsewhere.
Kozak said:
Actually, I highly disagree. Only by drawing/publishing the most highly offensive stuff do we prove that we have the right/ability to publish everything else. Soon as you start moving the goal lines of what "should" and "shouldn't" be drawn/published we begin losing our rights.
So I'm all for a person drawing a picture of Jesus taking a dump on the Bible. Who cares? It's not what I think. It doesn't harm me. It's not suddenly going to change the world into thinking that "OH HO HO JESUS HATED THE BIBLE!"
People just need to learn that not everybody thinks the same way, and not everybody is going to agree with you.
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Kozak said:
Have you seen the South Park episode where Jesus travels to Iraq to save Santa Claus?
Or worse, the series pilot where they violently confront one another?
Christians are taught to turn the other cheek to slights against us - it doesn't always work that way, but it's the ideal. After all, what worldly punishment can we inflict compared to the judgement of God?
The idea that you can make people respect your religious beliefs by force or by law is the biggest cultural divide between Islamic theocracies and the predominantly secular governments of the West.
Count Dookkake
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Cartoon of the Forever!
elrechazado
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No, you said these things shouldn't be published. You are the enabler who gives the extremists the idea then that because they are allowed to be outraged at the "crime" of publishing these images, that it is ok to use violence to stop their publication.Kozak said:
Stop enabling murder.
also, wtf are you talking about the KKK period?
Sho_Nuff82
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Salty said:
Yeah, when one extremist kills dozens of people by blowing themselves up in a supermarket or cuts some guys head off for making a movie, it makes them hard to ignore.
Kozak said:
So what? Religions should never ever be immune to criticism or parody. That's freedom of speech for you. If you're comfortable in your faith, you should just shrug. If you believe Allah exists, then all those non believers will burn in the fiery depths of hell.
Islam is supposedly the religion of peace but it seems muslims are incredible at turning it into the religion of hate. I can't think of any other current religion that has such a large percentage of complete and utter dickwads. The fundamentalist interpretation of the islam is the most obnoxious death cult on this world. Just look at what's going on in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia. I'm surprised muslims don't look in shame at what's going on there in the name of religion.
Sho_Nuff82
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Kozak said:
The KKK has been, by the strictest definition, a terrorist group, and it took a considerable amount of reform in this country to stop them from brazenly taking the law into their own hands.
The KKK has an understandably hard time recruiting internationally, an equally hard time gaining political power to enforce any of their ideals due to the current American stigma to being openly racist and discriminatory, and being a predominantly "christian" organization, the number of self-sacrificing martyrs is low compared to Islamist extremist groups.
SimpleDesign
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Dear JesusKozak said:
There's also a video of Jesus taking a crap on the American flag and George Bush, somehow or another Matt Stone and Trey Parker have avoided any Christian assassination attempts.
chaostrophy
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Kozak said:
I wonder if the Muslim extremists who rioted, threatened murder, etc. in response to the cartoons understood that their actions would directly lead to more people seeing the cartoons? Or was that lost on them?
Kozak said:
One man? This isn't the first attempt, and when it was first published there were violent riots. And needless to say, this isn't exactly the first time in recent memory muslims have acted out violently in the name of their religion...
It may be politically correct to state every religion has its crazioes..but in modern day reality, that's bullshit
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Let's just all be Buddhists.
Although then we'd just argue over which school was best. We should all be Theravada. No you jackass Mahayana is better. I'll kill you!!
chaostrophy said:
Part of the problem was a pair of supposed imams who basically collected a packet of these cartoons/images, many of which had absolutely nothing to do with Islam (such as a guy at a pig-snorting contest wearing a rubber pig snout who they claimed was portraying Mohammad as a pig) and then traveled around already extremist countries lying through their teeth that these were all being printed in government run newspapers in Denmark. I guess truth in advertising has never been a strong suit of many religions.
If you're really trying to suggest that there's only been one person to react violently or call for violence against this cartoonist alone, you're a fucking liar. But if that's what it takes to convince yourself that there isn't a serious problem of hate and violence in your religion...Kozak said:
Six Degrees from Al-Qaeda.Sol.. said:
Sol posts on Neogaf, which has Kozak(a Muslim member), who posts on another forum that has some Muslims, who donates to their local Mosques, one of which sends it to Yemen, one Mosque that receives the money counts a bona fide member of Al-Qaeda as one of it's members.
Yep, Sol...'s a terrorist. We're all terrorists.
Count Dookkake
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Some of you guys are old enough to remember the tears that accompanied the release of True Lies. That was awesome.
Sir Fragula said:
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Kozak said:
Why should Islam get a free pass?
Christianism is hammered on all sides by all kind of shit, but nooo, we can't offend Islam.
Screw you, if anything we need even more offensive Muhammed cartoons shoveled down muslims throats. Until they learn the lesson and stop trying to kill cartoonists.
JzeroT1437 said:
I'm surprised he didn't get a FATWA from Dr Who fans:-
"Author Salman Rushdie refers to The Mutants in his controversial book The Satanic Verses and implies that the programme's characterisation of mutations as evil just because they look different from human beings encourages racist attitudes. He thereby completely misses the point of the story, which in fact has an anti-racist message."
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Metal B said:
And then man goes on to prove that black is white, and gets run over at the nearest zebra crossing.
Jean-Claude Picard
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Let's face it: Western society and Islam are irreconcilable. Why further delay the consequences?
Islam will never be seen, sadly, as a religion of peace by the mainstream world as long as there is thoaw micro-groups of total assholes who uses it today and twist the original words to gain power and control weak-minded fools like the man in the original post for their own personal gains.
All religion had growing pains, Christianity had a horrible history of that, but they have now cleaned their act, well the biggest majority of it. You still get extremists movements every now and then..
Perhaps it is time for the islamic community to finally 'step up' and get rid of those extremists who, under the guise of being religious groups, plan out attacks and so on. I think it is incredibly sad when the medias report that a terrorist cell get linked to their local mosque, because it was their recruiting ground, or meeting area. It looks terribly bad for the entire community, as for the mainstream people, they see this as 'See? Islams breed terrorists and all those guys plan out their stuff in their own mosques! We cant trust them'
I believe and know that this is not the case and many men of the islamic faith are fighting hard everyday to remove that image, and also remove the rotten apples from their local communities.
i think it is time that the whole movement throws out the bad apples.
All religion had growing pains, Christianity had a horrible history of that, but they have now cleaned their act, well the biggest majority of it. You still get extremists movements every now and then..
Perhaps it is time for the islamic community to finally 'step up' and get rid of those extremists who, under the guise of being religious groups, plan out attacks and so on. I think it is incredibly sad when the medias report that a terrorist cell get linked to their local mosque, because it was their recruiting ground, or meeting area. It looks terribly bad for the entire community, as for the mainstream people, they see this as 'See? Islams breed terrorists and all those guys plan out their stuff in their own mosques! We cant trust them'
I believe and know that this is not the case and many men of the islamic faith are fighting hard everyday to remove that image, and also remove the rotten apples from their local communities.
i think it is time that the whole movement throws out the bad apples.
I wonder why there hasn't been a "Draw Muhammad Contest" or www.we-draw-muhammad.com yet in response to this uproar...
Bitmap Frogs
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lshuri said:
That won't happen as long as the wahhabis rule over the Kaaba.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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canova said:
You are now tasked with creating it.
Jean-Claude Picard
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shuri said:
Only they are not seen as extremists but as the spearhead of the religion. So the reaction of the majority is probably more along the lines of "Why am I not as actively involved?"
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