Man in tears after catching his girl without a weave for the first time

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Mesousa said:
Some heat has been applied to that hair. Look at the ends.
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Yeah, there was heat to make that style, but a much safer level of heat than what black women have to do to get stick straight hair. It looks like she just blow-dried it while the hair was in twists, and then pulled the twists apart.

Here's some examples of black hair styled without heat:

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And with the exception of maybe the first girl, most of these styles would be seen as inappropriate for the average corporate workplace.
 
royalan said:
Yeah, there was heat to make that style, but a much safer level of heat than what black women have to do to get stick straight hair. It looks like she just blow-dried it while the hair was in twists, and then pulled the twists apart.

Here's some examples of black hair styled without heat:



And with the exception of maybe the first girl, most of these styles would be seen as inappropriate for the average corporate workplace.
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Yep, these are great as well, it's a shame it's not "acceptable."
 
royalan said:
Yeah, there was heat to make that style, but a much safer level of heat than what black women have to do to get stick straight hair. It looks like she just blow-dried it while the hair was in twists, and then pulled the twists apart.

Here's some examples of black hair styled without heat:



And with the exception of maybe the first girl, most of these styles would be seen as inappropriate for the average corporate workplace.
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Beautiful hairstyles!
 
Watching my mom and sister deal with hair growing up, really made me glad I was born a dude. Just seems expensive, time consuming and irritating. All to match bullshit societal expectations of beauty. Just rough all around, and you can't be fucking ignorant of it either. Not if you want to be treated seriously by a large segment of people in the professional space. Seen my sister spend so much money, and just straight up destroy her hair in the past, trying to keep her hair manageable. While I can just get away with a 20 dollar line and shape, at irregular intervals.
 
royalan said:
Yeah, there was heat to make that style, but a much safer level of heat than what black women have to do to get stick straight hair. It looks like she just blow-dried it while the hair was in twists, and then pulled the twists apart.

Here's some examples of black hair styled without heat:



And with the exception of maybe the first girl, most of these styles would be seen as inappropriate for the average corporate workplace.
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Inappropriate? These are gorgeous! I've worked as a lawyer in multiple white collar environments and I can't imagine those would be an issue in any of them.
 
royalan said:
Yeah, there was heat to make that style, but a much safer level of heat than what black women have to do to get stick straight hair. It looks like she just blow-dried it while the hair was in twists, and then pulled the twists apart.

Here's some examples of black hair styled without heat:



And with the exception of maybe the first girl, most of these styles would be seen as inappropriate for the average corporate workplace.
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Bruh. Goddamn I love black women.
 
Trident said:
Inappropriate? These are gorgeous! I've worked as a lawyer in multiple white collar environments and I can't imagine those would be an issue in any of them.
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Can you confirm that? Like, in these white collar environments how many black women did you see with natural hair? Because it's a huge issue with the black community and has been for a while.

We recently won a small battle at my office with the boss finally letting black folks wear kinky afros.
 
royalan said:
Yeah, there was heat to make that style, but a much safer level of heat than what black women have to do to get stick straight hair. It looks like she just blow-dried it while the hair was in twists, and then pulled the twists apart.

Here's some examples of black hair styled without heat:



And with the exception of maybe the first girl, most of these styles would be seen as inappropriate for the average corporate workplace.
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This is why I'm having such a tough time convincing my girlfriend to just style her hair the way she wants and to fuck what 'Professional" America wants (she has been natural for a little over two years).
 
royalan said:
Yeah, there was heat to make that style, but a much safer level of heat than what black women have to do to get stick straight hair. It looks like she just blow-dried it while the hair was in twists, and then pulled the twists apart.

Here's some examples of black hair styled without heat:



And with the exception of maybe the first girl, most of these styles would be seen as inappropriate for the average corporate workplace.
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What? Do you know what you're talking about? Not every african american has rough hair like that. Not that that kind of style is bad but i'm just saying it varyies. And that picture you quoted doesn't need any "heat" to be straight. I wouldn't call that straight anyway.

A few of my female family members all have soft straight hair.
 
On Demand said:
What? Do you know what you're talking about? Not every african american has rough hair like that. Not that that kind of style is bad but i'm just saying it varyies. And that picture you quoted doesn't need any "heat" to be straight. I wouldn't call that straight anyway.

A few of my female family members all have soft straight hair.
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Ummm...yeah I know what I'm talking about.

And who said anything about her hair being rough (or ANYBODY'S hair being rough)? But her hair has clearly been styled with heat. As Mesousa pointed out, look at the edges.

That's not a criticism, her hair is gorgeous, and it still has enough of its natural texture that I would still consider it a natural style. But it HAS been stretched with heat.
 
royalan said:
Ummm...yeah I know what I'm talking about.

And who said anything about her hair being rough (or ANYBODY'S hair being rough)? But her hair has clearly been styled with heat. As Mesousa pointed out, look at the edges.

That's not a criticism, her hair is gorgeous, and it still has enough of its natural texture that I would still consider it a natural style. But it HAS been stretched with heat.
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You said-

there was heat to make that style, but a much safer level of heat than what black women have to do to get stick straight hair
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Which is just wrong. Black women, african americans in general, don't need to do anything to keep their hair straight. It can be styled yes, that's the beautiful thing about about black hair, but most just have to comb it and that's it. I have plenty of females in my family that prove this.

And i'm not saying what you said was criticism. I just don't think what you said is correct.
 
On Demand said:
You said-



Which is just wrong. Black women, african americans in general, don't need to do anything to keep their hair straight. It can be styled yes, that's the beautiful thing about about black hair, but most just have to comb it and that's it. I have plenty of females in my family that prove this.

And i'm not saying what you said was criticism. I just don't think what you said is correct.
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Well I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You're flat wrong. And this statement here:

Black women, african americans in general, don't need to do anything to keep their hair straight.
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Makes me wonder if you pay attention to the women around you and how they style their hair, or you come from a family with a very soft texture of hair. Because that statement is not at all accurate for most black people with kinky texture hair.

Because on a lot of black women, especially women with type 4 hair (which this girl has) a comb-out does not equal feathery straight and falling down her shoulders. For a girl with that texture a comb-out usually means a fro.

Also, if her hair was just combed (and only combed), her natural curl pattern would be a lot more visible and consistent.

I mean, you're right that black hair comes in many different textures, but THIS girl and this particular style? No. You're completely wrong. It has been styled.
 
royalan said:
Well I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You're flat wrong. And this statement here:



Makes me wonder if you pay attention to the women around you and how they style their hair, or you come from a family with a very soft texture of her.

Because on a lot of black women, especially women with type 4 hair (which this girl has) a comb-out does not equal feathery straight and falling down her shoulders. For a girl with that texture a comb-out usually means a fro.

Also, if her hair was just combed (and only combed), her natural curl pattern would be a lot more visible and consistent.

I mean, you're right that black hair comes in many different textures, but THIS girl and this particular style? No. You're completely wrong. It has been styled.
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You see this is the problem. You're assuming all black girls have hair quality like the pictures you posted. They don't. That was my point. Again, none of the girls in my family have hair like that. Your post comes off as showing what every single black girls hair looks like and what they have to do to get it a certain way.


That's wrong

I'm guessing you think my sister walks around the E.R. at work with a curly fro?
 
On Demand said:
You see this is the problem. You're assuming all black girls have hair quality like the pictures you posted. They don't. That was my point. Again, none of the girls in my family have hair like that. Your post comes off as showing what every single black girls hair looks like and what they have to do to get it a certain way.


That's wrong
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I'm doing no such thing. If anything, you're making general statements about all of black hair because of the women in your specific family. I'm just talking about this particular girl in this particular photo. Nobody else. HER hair has been styled. This is not a statement about all black hair. And this is certainly not a statement about the women in your family. I already said that I know that black hair comes in many different textures.
 
royalan said:
I'm doing no such thing. If anything, you're making general statements about all of black hair because of the women in your specific family. I'm just talking about this particular girl in this particular photo. Nobody else. HER hair has been styled. This is not a statement about all black hair. And this is certainly not a statement about the women in your family. I already said that I know that black hair comes in many different textures.
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I'm responding to your original post. Read it again. It clearly reads like a general statement. I did no such thing. I even pointed out african american hair comes in different types.
 
On Demand said:
I'm responding to your original post. Read it again. It clearly reads like a general statement. I did no such thing. I even pointed out african american hair comes in different types.
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This is a silly argument. You're taking that one sentence in that post as me literally saying "Every black woman everywhere ever." When this whole time I've made it clear in posts before that and subsequent posts that I'm really talking about black women with kinky hair textures, and black women like the one in the quoted photo.

And yes, some black women have naturally straight hair textures. But a LOT of black women (in fact I'd say the majority of black women) have a kinky hair texture. And no, that hair does not stay straight on its own. And this woman, in this photo, with that style, her hair has been styled with a little heat. The women in your family have straight hair? That's great.
 
royalan said:
This is a silly argument. You're taking that one sentence in that post as me literally saying "Every black woman everywhere ever." When this whole time I've made it clear in posts before that and subsequent posts that I'm really talking about black women with kinky hair textures, and black women like the one in the quoted photo.

And yes, some black women have naturally straight hair textures. But a LOT of black women (in fact I'd say the majority of black women) have a kinky hair texture. And no, that hair does not stay straight on its own. And this woman, in this photo, with that style, her hair has been styled with a little heat. The women in your family have straight hair? That's great.
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Alot have that hair type? I don't think so. You're assuming things again. Please show me proof of this majority. Maby in you're experience and the black girls you've seen. There is no weighted result. There's just many different types of hair. That's it.
 
On Demand said:
Alot have that hair type? I don't think so. You're assuming things again. Please show me proof of this majority. Maby in you're experience and the black girls you've seen. There is no weighted result. There's just many different types of hair. That's it.
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Wait. You really think most Black women don't have kinky hair?
 
On Demand said:
Alot have that hair type? I don't think so. You're assuming things again. Please show me proof of this majority. Maby in you're experience and the black girls you've seen. There is no weighted result. There's just many different types of hair. That's it.
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I'm assuming things? The claim I'm making isn't even a crazy one. The vast majority of Diasporic Africans had kinky hair. This includes Africans brought to the US via the Atlantic Slave Trade. The majority of African American lineage can be traced back to these people. So then, even accounting for interracial relationships and conception, it's not crazy to think that the majority of African Americans have a hair texture with some type of kink in it.

There's even a widely accepted chart of the different types of natural hair textures. Notice that of the 9 established hair types, only the first two can really be described as possessing no kink.

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You're also making the mistake of thinking that all the girls I posted have the same hair type. They don't. There's levels to kink, and yes, while there isn't a definitive survey of the hair types of black women in the United States, it's fair to say that the majority of black people have a hair texture with SOME kink to it.

Meanwhile, you're making a completely out-of-pocket claim (that African American women "don't have do anything" to have straight hair) and your sole basis for this claim is some of the girls in your family.
 
Trident said:
Inappropriate? These are gorgeous! I've worked as a lawyer in multiple white collar environments and I can't imagine those would be an issue in any of them.
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which white collar environments? Because I can tell you with 100% certainty that as of a few years ago it would have been totally unacceptable at IBM, for example.
 
I'm a black woman. I have very kinky hair. As do all the women in my family. As do all the men in my family. Even my son, whose father is white, has very kinky hair.

Usually, but not always, black women with less kinky hair /tend/ to have a fairer skin complexion and other features that indicate more European ancestry, but this is not always the case.

But, in summary, if most black women did not have kinky or kinkier hair, the hair straightening industry would not be a billion dollar enterprise.
 
royalan said:
I'm assuming things? The claim I'm making isn't even a crazy one. The vast majority of Diasporic Africans had kinky hair. This includes Africans brought to the US via the Atlantic Slave Trade. The majority of African American lineage can be traced back to these people. So then, even accounting for interracial relationships and conception, it's not crazy to think that the majority of African Americans have a hair texture with some type of kink in it.

There's even a widely accepted chart of the different types of natural hair textures. Notice that of the 9 established hair types, only the first two can really be described as possessing no kink.

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You're also making the mistake of thinking that all the girls I posted have the same hair type. They don't. There's levels to kink, and yes, while there isn't a definitive survey of the hair types of black women in the United States, it's fair to say that the majority of black people have a hair texture with SOME kink to it.

Meanwhile, you're making a completely out-of-pocket claim (that African American women "don't have do anything" to have straight hair) and your sole basis for this claim is some of the girls in your family.
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There is no majority. I don't know what else to tell you. But your claims are wrong.



Meanwhile, you're making a completely out-of-pocket claim (that African American women "don't have do anything" to have straight hair) and your sole basis for this claim is some of the girls in your family.
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You're the one with out of pocket claims about black hair using a few pictures as proof to show what black hair looks like. I wasn't using my family the same way you used those pictures. I brought them up to show that not ALL black girls hair are like that. That's my main point of all this.


Is their kinky hair? Yes? Soft hair? Yes. More than one another? No. There's too many different hair typs for anyone to say one is dominant over another.
 
Thread clearly needs more pictures of my imaginary wife and one of my favorite artists.

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Put her picture next to the Oxford Dictionary definition. Such a beautiful spirit. And of course that hair...every one of those styles makes me weak in the knees.
 
On Demand said:
Is their kinky hair? Yes? Soft hair? Yes. More than one another? No. There's too many different hair typs for anyone to say one is dominant over another.
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Look at that chart again. While there are indeed many different types of black hair, MOST of them have a level of kink to them. Sorry, but this is just irrefutable at this point. "Kinky" is not a hardline description that exists on a island of it's own. There are less kinky hair textures, and more kinky hair textures.

And yes, I used those photos to give people in this thread an idea of what natural black hair is like, but in no way did I intend for those few photos I posted to represent the full gamut of black hair types. I would have had to flood this thread with dozens of photos to even attempt to do that. But guess what? Had I done that, most of the photos I posted with have been of hair with some level of kink present in the texture.
 
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