Gordon Shumway
Banned
Sounds like a happy place..speedy recovery to the victim.
I'm out of shit to say.
I'm out of shit to say.
They don't shoot everyone who moves. Stop generalizing cops. It's not fair to the good ones.
Murderers
Was it Casino where some dude had a long sub sandwich in his hands and the cops thought it was a gun and mowed him down? For some reason this reminded me of that.
I think they're required to cuff him or something at that point... Regardless this is terrible judgment. No reason to assume there was a gun inside the towel.The cuffing part is just insane....I'm..I....that's just insane. That should be a clear sign that these people aren't right in the head.
They are part of a larger body that enables/encourages this abhorrent behavior aren't they? Cops need to be held at a higher standard.They don't shoot everyone who moves. Stop generalizing cops. It's not fair to the good ones.
At that point, Smith said, the man had not been searched and was considered a suspect.
They are part of a larger body that enables/encourages this abhorrent behavior aren't they? Cops need to be held at a higher standard.
As an excuse used by cops? Sure. Especially when the other person ends up dead, and they don't have the chance to say otherwise.Huh? Suicide by cop is a thing now?
Cuffing a clearly wounded, unarmed, man you just shot, is fucked up. Assholes.
Procedure. You handcuff everyone wounded or not, dead or not.
Just because it is procedure doesnt make it not fucked up or right.
It is for the safety of everyone including paramedics who sometimes have wounded people in their ambulance try and fight them. The only times the cuffs don't come on is when the head is literally missing from the body. The cuffs come off at the request of EMTs or Doctors at the hospital.
What a great policy. Handcuffing a dying person who has recently been shot...? Hmm, nope, can't think of how that could possibly go wrong.
So fucking dumb. Other countries have police forces which do not even handcuff all cofirmed suspects, and we are handcuffing dead and dying people. Yep, seems about right.
I think a much more sane solution would be to hold off on cuffing the person who was shot until he was in the ambulance and then cuff him to the gurney. I mean, arent you going to have to un-cuff him anyways to get the person on the gurney? That way, police officers aren't harming the person they just shot by cuffing him. Hell, they could then even try to stop the blood flow and put pressure on the wound they just made, but that might be too much to ask for.
Obviously, there can be some discretion.
I think we need to get on inventing phasers that are permanently set to stun.
The life of the 'offender' doesn't take priority over the life of a first responder such as a paramedic or fellow officer. The person will be cuffed, searched, and paramedics/EMTs can request the cuffs to come off.
The only First Aid police are required to give is to call an ambulance. Most police out there don't even know first aid basics like that either. Some don't even know CPR.
They thought he was armed. Why wouldn't you handcuff someone you thought was armed?
Police lives>>>Citizens lives
While that isnt news to me, it is pretty shocking that some police are either too stupid or too callous to realize that putting pressure on the wound you just made would help that person survive.
More like Everyone's lives > the offender.
If the wounded offender turns out to be a threat and hurts anyone (cop or non-cop), that cop is screwed.
More like Everyone's lives > the offender.
If the wounded offender turns out to be a threat and hurts anyone (cop or non-cop), that cop is screwed.
That person was not an offender.More like Everyone's lives > the offender.
If the wounded offender turns out to be a threat and hurts anyone (cop or non-cop), that cop is screwed.
More like Everyone's lives > the offender.
If the wounded offender turns out to be a threat and hurts anyone (cop or non-cop), that cop is screwed.
What's the procedure for becoming a cop in the USA? I assume it's slightly different in each state?
I applied for the police (Dorset Police) in the UK years ago. First of you fill in a massive long form on the website, they vet you and check you out. Then they send you another form that's like 20 pages long that you fill in on the Web or in writing - in it you have to basically write little essays.
Then after that if you get picked you have to go for a day to this place when they test you on maths, English, etc.
Then you do role-plays to check you're not violent, racist, sexist, homophobic, and don't hold any prejudice. Then you're interviewed and profiled to within an inch of your life to check some more that you're not a racist, violent nut.
Then you have fitness tests, then you might, if you're lucky and still want to, get into the first part of the training...
It's thorough and it's hard. Not saying it's perfect and we don't have any bad cops, but that gives you an idea of what you have to do in the UK to be a cop.
- It seems to me that in the USA, any unstable trigger happy idiot on a power trip can join up?
The life of the 'offender' doesn't take priority over the life of a first responder such as a paramedic or fellow officer. The person will be cuffed, searched, and paramedics/EMTs can request the cuffs to come off.
The only First Aid police are required to give is to call an ambulance. Most police out there don't even know first aid basics like that either. Some don't even know CPR.
LAPD
The guy was shot in the head and it was obvious at that point that he wasn't armed. Did you even watch the video linked in the news article? He wasn't a "wounded offender," he was a wounded, innocent, unarmed man.
That person was not an offender.
It is part of the police job to assess the level of risk an individual poses, and they failed miserably at this case.
And yes, that type of risk assessment can be dangerous, police work can be dangerous, it's part of the job.
Some police departments (I am really hoping it was just that one) in the US prefer dumber cops to smarter ones
When you blow someone's brains out they stop being a risk.The handcuffing is part of the risk assessment process. The wounded person is handcuffed and searched to confirm that he/she isn't an actual risk. The person isn't 'unarmed' until an officer actually searches the individual for weapons. Until an officer searches a person they can 'potentially' be armed. In order to be searched, the potentially armed person is handcuffed and then searched no the other way around.