StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Look retarded bud. But keep the hype coming.
Art is so friggin sick
James Sawyer Ford
Member
In terms of pricing, I wonder if Bungie could do both F2P and a paid release.
- F2P = access to 1 runner that you can progress through 1 faction, don't have access to purple or gold tier loot but can access all the weapons.
- $10 purchase to unlock additional Runners and unlock purple/gold loot. Gain access to additional faction.
- $40-50 = access to all runners, all factions, all loot.
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
James Sawyer Ford
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coachmcguirk91
Member
Way too convoluted. Bungie will sell a couple million copies at launch no matter what, imo. They have too many die hard fans that love their gunplay. The only reason Bungie would consider a F2P model is if they were genuinely concerned the playerbase would not stick around due to lack of content at launch
And after games like The Finals and X-Defiant, I doubt we see anymore F2P AAA GAAS games. The gaas industry is such a massive gamble that these studios desperately need upfront sales money to cushion the blow if the game ends up failing
Marathon hopes to be around for 10+ years, so I doubt they care too much about their launch numbers, as long as they are big enough to keep the lights on. From that perspective, Bungie would be leaving a lot of money on the table by making it F2P
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I don't think it's too convoluted, if the game is great it'll entice people to buy up
I agree though that I don't think it's necessary, but I don't think it would be leaving money on the table because it would be pretty restrictive in terms of progression and if people enjoy the game they will want to pay for the full experience
ZehDon
Gold Member
*Sneaks out of the water to attack opponent unseen*
Art is so friggin sick
*Wears giant glowing orange helmet*
*Wears outfit designed to make you stand out from your environment*
*Holds gun with sight aligned to helmet's augment vision lens instead of unobstructed eye*
Stelff
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Make it simpler.
People who pay full price for the game get two "friend slots" - Can't think of a cooler sci fi term.
Each friend slot gets 3 infil credits per week. Friend slots are able to store 5 infil credits in total. 1 credit = 1 infiltration.
That let's people try the game in an ideal scenario (with friends) but they get just a taste.
I am the friend who gets a pixie haircut and it looks awful, but you have to say it looks good.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Art is so friggin sick
wtf am I even looking at here? Looks like a malformed Lego set.
edit: I see I'm not the first person who thought there was something vaguely Lego about it, lol.
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coachmcguirk91
Member
Yeah, but then you got people complaining about P2W ect. I would actually be annoyed if I bought the game and was playing against a bunch of players with a disadvantage. That's not good for anybody
Regardless, the open beta should go a long way. But even that may be tough because it will be hard to show the mid and late gameplay loop in a beta, with presumably 1 level
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
It's Blackbird
The recon player where the visor expands, looks slick to me. The dev team was excited about the visor
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Men_In_Boxes changed his avatar after he caught his girlfriend with another dude? 
MayauMiao
Member
Art is so friggin sick
Art look like it was randomly generated with missing texture assets. Its going to be the game's downfall.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Tbf since the old skool whiners wanted it to stay true to the original(s), it seems they tried to somewhat stick to the pixelated-art from back then.
Sometimes you gotta be careful what you wish for.
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
Nope, it's distinctive and highly stylized. Clean with high performance and visual clarity. Perfect for a competitive tactical PvP game
It's going to be something that fans of the game look fondly of as the seasons progress.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Men_in_Boxes
Video goes in depth on lots of topics. Praises how intricate and organic the environments are, that have structures with real industrial purpose that feed into mission design
Speaking of missions, they are multi-tiered wild goose hunt affairs filled with Easter eggs that eventually culminate into boss battles
The game has its own lore codex with a marathon OG based hud that is apparently really well done, lore is obtained in game through extractions and read out of game in the codex
Gameplay is slower than Destiny and closer to classical halo and is not intended as a movement shooter.
One of the complaints of Destiny PvP is how unbalanced and chaotic it is. This game has tons of devs from the original Halo games who loved that series PvP and are trying to bring back that sort of competitive and balanced feel
Certain weapons are classic Halo archetypes. There's a Needler gun, there's a plasma pistol, there's a way to upgrade a basic pistol with long range to make it like Halo 1's OG pistol
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
In depth discussion of the Ship map. Guy says that it's the factor that defines Marathon and pushes the bar on what an extraction can feel like. He played the ship map a year ago and back then it blew his mind and he couldn't stop wanting to play it again. Says the concept has such massive potential and hopes it continues on in subsequent seasons
Other things we know - Bungie says the extraction success rate is 20%, and some Bungie employees haven't even been able to extract at all yet.
End game looking strong for this one, has me excited
Also, he says the various Factions are basically like a single player campaign and there's some really sick cinematics for each of them that introduces more lore
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Gudji
Member
Guess they're saving the 4th map reveal closer to launch after open beta or something (it's probably not even finished yet to be honest).
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Maybe, but if people played it two years ago, I assume it's quite far into development already.
Eesha
Member
Art is so friggin sick
*Yuck*
overbusy as hell, colors all over the place, where do you see this "friggin sick" art?
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Let's be honest, the original had abominal designs as well. At the very least, the upcoming designs aren't any worse than the original:
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Yeah, the same goes with Schedule I. If they don't get their visuals to at least look like Doom Eternal, no one is going to play it.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I definitely like hearing (and seeing) this. One of the few scenes that was memorable to me about the gameplay reveal was watching Dr Lupo jump jet around that big crate and two shotting a player with that shotgun.
It was memorable to me because I f***ing hated it. I'm not going to be a Dr Lupo type player, I'm going to be the guy bandaging up like an idiot behind a crate, lol.
I have been seeing a lot of other players gameplay and the pace is way slower than the Dr Lupo gameplay.
I'd be curious to hear from PC gamers perspectives on the following...
"Gameplay reveals should be done with controller, rather than twitchy KBM."
I feel like the spastic, overly twitchy gameplay perspective of high skill players is unappealing to most people. Are there any people who disagree?