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Mario 128 - Gamecube or Revolution?

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Mario 128 will apparently be revealed in video form at E3, but the real question is; what platform is it for. Gamecube or Revolution? Many people think it's for Revolution, but I am starting to think it's for the cube. Nobody knows when the Rev will be released except that it's in 2006. What if it's later half 2006? The cube need some software planned for 2006, and that could be Mario. Who knows, maybe Nintendo has another Mario planned for Rev Launch? Or maybe Mario 128 is the same game on GC and Rev, and that Nintendo has added special controls and updated graphics for the Revolution version. Like Mario 128 Revolution edition as launch.

This will be revealed at E3, so what's your PREDICTION.
 
StephaneC said:
gamecube & revolution :D because u can play gamecube games on ur revolution
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yes that's why I was thinking that the Revolution could use Mario 128 (as a special edition) as a launch game at the same time it's out on gamecube.
 
If they are only going to show a video of the game at e3, it doesn't make sense for it to be for the cube. I mean, if it's not playable, when are they going to release it? mid-late 2006? That's probably when the revolution will launch.
So my bet that it's a revolution launch title, but hey, this is Nintendo, one can never be sure what they'll do.
 
If they have any sense it will be a Revolution launch title, and the game will be tied closely with whatever innovations the console has for joypad/interface. A Mario game is the perfect game to demonstrate new controls and ideas, as Mario64 did for the N64.
 
The Abominable Snowman said:
Lets hope Gamecube, because I won't be buying a Revolution at all.
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dont lie... yes you will.. expeciall when they announce the squenix 5 and the namco 15, and the capcom -3.
 
A new Smash Bros games is definitely in development for the Revolution as a launch title. I think this would affect the decision to release Mario128 as launch title for the Revolution, my bet is on it being a GC title. A lot of R&D may be going into the titles development, so that they can create a visually stunning title on the GC. This should translate well, considering the Revolution will be backwards compatible.

Although if it is for the Revolution, the combination of Mario128 and Super Smash Bros Melee2, may have the Revolution flying off the shelves at rate that Nintendo or retailers can't handle.
 
I liked the rumor brought up a while back, that the original Mario 128 (Miyamoto's experimental baby) was pushed back to the Revolution so he really could tailor it to be more unique, while a second team took up the reigns some time back to make a "fanservice" SMB sequel akin to the new Legend of Zelda, assumingly appealing to the fans with classic designs and all sorts of retro references. (Because it seems like every Mario game designer _BUT_ EAD likes referring to the old games. Alphadream, HAL, Hudson, even Camelot...)

I'd be really happy if this was the case. While I like innovation in gaming, I sometimes wonder if Nintendo forgets what the meaning of "sequel" is. R&C 2 and 3 didn't revolutionize the gameplay styles introduced in 1, they just built upon them and enhanced them to even more enjoyable levels. Miyamoto and Co. seem quite keen on shoehorning all sorts of experimental ideas into SMB games, and while the ideas themselves might be good, they often get in the way of the game being even close to a proper sequel.
 
That got me thinking, what are the teams at nintendo working on? The only game we know of is the new legend of zelda. Are all the teams focusing on revulotion(and the ds)? I doubt they'll abandon the cube, only if the revulotion will come out in early 2006, which is unlikly considering this is nintendo after all, always late to the party...
Dammit, only one more month...
 
its probably for Revolution cause there's no reason to not just come out and confirm it for the GC if it was for the GC
 
For Nintendo I hope it's real good, and as innovative as they keep saying. I also hope, if that's the case, then it's for Revolution. Either that or they better hope to have one heck of a launch lineup, and it better not be Luigi's Mansion 2 (even though I enjoyed Luigi's Mansion).
 
I cant see Nintendo being stupid enough to release it for GC. They need something to sell Revolution and although mario isnt what it usded to be, it will stil;l sell consoles just by name.

Whilst we are debating Mario 128, what do you think about Zelda's release? I thought that it would be best for Nintendo to save it until Revolution comes otu. GC isnt going to surpass Xbox in sales, there is a big gap forming between the two and Zelda wont do much to close that gap or overtake Xbox. If they waited to release it for Revolution, then they could have a great start.
 
Kulock said:
I liked the rumor brought up a while back, that the original Mario 128 (Miyamoto's experimental baby) was pushed back to the Revolution so he really could tailor it to be more unique, while a second team took up the reigns some time back to make a "fanservice" SMB sequel akin to the new Legend of Zelda, assumingly appealing to the fans with classic designs and all sorts of retro references. (Because it seems like every Mario game designer _BUT_ EAD likes referring to the old games. Alphadream, HAL, Hudson, even Camelot...)
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I'd love it if that was true, and the "fanservice" sequel was on the Cube. Leave the weird gimmicky crap for Revolution, while we get a real sequel on Gamecube, seeing as how I prolly won't buy a Revolution (if ever) until the price drops quite a bit on it.
 
i bet they will release it with GC, i think the gimmick will be a 2 cd game.

nintendo always pullet end of console life stunt when it seemed dead, donkey kong country on SNES, perfect dark on N64 etc...

If revolution come, then can relaunch it with new control mechanic and updated graphic anyway.
 
I thought about this yesterday, actually. I thought the best thing for Nintendo to do is to design the game the same way they used to do with games for Game Boy/Game Boy Color. That is, make it so the game is playable on Gamecube. But if you play it on the Revolution, you get to play it with upgraded graphics, new unlockables, exclusive levels, etc.

Too much work involved to make this even remotely possible?
 
SonicMegaDrive said:
I thought about this yesterday, actually. I thought the best thing for Nintendo to do is to design the game the same way they used to do with games for Game Boy/Game Boy Color. That is, make it so the game is playable on Gamecube. But if you play it on the Revolution, you get to play it with upgraded graphics, new unlockables, exclusive levels, etc.

Too much work involved to make this even remotely possible?
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Too many issues, I'd think. How much of that might be accessible just with a little AR hacking? People would definitely try it for the locked-off levels, and maybe even to get the upgraded graphics (which would probably chug when it came to framerate, or crash, but people would try to play it if they knew it was there).

Not to mention the storage medium. 1.5 Gig is already pretty tight for a major release, anymore, all the extra data to update the graphics (more complex polymodels, more detailed textures, which the GCN wouldn't use because of memory limitation) would cram things even tighter.

From your example, unlockables akin to the LoZ: Link's Awakening GBC (color dungeon) or the Oracle titles (Ring Shop) would be as far as I could see it going. Maybe one or two extra levels, or some extra odd powerup (akin to the e-Reader cape in SMA4) or tweak. (If the GCN version had to run locked at 30 FPS, maybe the game run on Rev could adjust for the extra power and allow for 60.) But I really don't know if they could improve graphics all that much, because if it upgrades some areas (characters polymodels, for example), but not others, the clash would be really noticeable.
 
I would bet my copy of Sunshine that this game will be for Gamecube. It's a win-win situation! :lol Kidding, I enjoyed Sunshine. I really believe that Mario 128 will be the GC's last hurrah, though. Before MP3.
 
I'm guessing that Mario 128 (or whatever it is now) will be on Gamecube and that there is another Mario game in the works for Revolution launch.

SM128 Q1/Q2 of 2006 with SMRevolution in Q4 of 2006.
 
GameCube is finished as a platform IMO.

If they have a true Mario game deep into development, it better be for the Revolution.

Time is of the essence, and the clock is ticking, we may think that Nintendo still has a lot of time, but really, the Revolution should be prepping to launch in Japan in about a year's time from now.

That is not a lot of time. If they do not have a great launch, they are totally screwed.

Even many ardent Nintendo faithful will jump on the XBox 360 or PS3 bandwagons if this is another "lukewarm" launch scenario ala Luigi's Mansion/Pikmin.
 
If SM128 releases, and it's on Revolution, then it tells me Nintendo hasn't changed one damn bit. It'd be there for security reasons, and security reasons only. Ensuring that they'll have at least one game to show off the new features and that they'll profit insanely off of it too. If Nintendo really REALLY wants to be that "And" company, then they'll have an original game by EAD, many third party launch titles, no mascot titles, and perhaps a Retro game that's completely original and unNintendo as well. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Fire Emblem, and the others can wait in the distance. They'll manage to rake in some dough, always have. The first few months need to ensure that the system is different but likeable, not only from competing systems, but from Nintendo systems prior.
 
Why not just follow the SNES launch philosophy?

They did launch with a new Mario game, but also had new franchises like Pilotwings and F-Zero and a game like Sim City which could appeal (at the time) perhaps to an older/"brainier" audience.

I always thought that was a great launch. Why Nintendo ever got away from that is beyond me.
 
Revolution, I hope. Furthermore, it should be a sterling exemplar for proper/compelling usage of the functionality Nintendo is building into Revolution.
 
If it was for some of you...generations would only last two months. It seems like if you loved spending 300 bucks on a system that will have less games, less support when you haven't even played a 10% of current gen games.
 
ourumov said:
If it was for some of you...generations would only last two months. It seems like if you loved spending 300 bucks on a system that will have less games, less support when you haven't even played a 10% of current gen games.
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All I'm going to say is if Revolution does not have a spectacular launch, they might as well just can the project now.

Only the most loyal Nintendo fans will give them the benefit of the doubt if they launch weak again. Even a good launch wouldn't be sufficent. They need to have a spectacular launch.

Nintendo has some tough decisions to make. I think they made some mistakes in keeping Perfect Dark and Conker's Bad Fur Day on the N64.

They've supported the GameCube for four years ... and its a platform clearly going nowhere but downhill. A new Mario is not going to change that.
 
Nintendo is Nintendo and you are you. You are a gamer and you SHOULD care about you and not about them. You bought a GC and you have the RIGHT to have games for it. If Nintendo makes or doesn't make money with it it's a completelly different matter.
Do you think that Mario128 would benefit a lot from new tech ? I simply don't see it. I just want a fun platfformer, something decent and well-made. I think that Nintendo can pull something better for let's say January 2k6-GC than December 2k6-Rev.


Mario 128 for the GC won't make the GC sell tons of systems, win the PS2 and kill Osama Bin Ladden...but it can easily make a 1M-2M sales across all regions and make GC users believe that Revolution can be an interesting matter.

Mario 126 for the revolution has all the numbers to be a flop sales wise and tech wise.
 
ourumov said:
Nintendo is Nintendo and you are you. You are a gamer and you SHOULD care about you and not about them. You bought a GC and you have the RIGHT to have games for it. If Nintendo makes or doesn't make money with it it's a completelly different matter.
Do you think that Mario128 would benefit a lot from new tech ? I simply don't see it. I just want a fun platfformer, something decent and well-made. I think that Nintendo can pull something better for let's say January 2k6-GC than December 2k6-Rev.


Mario 128 for the GC won't make the GC sell tons of systems, win the PS2 and kill Osama Bin Ladden...but it can easily make a 1M-2M sales across all regions and make GC users believe that Revolution can be an interesting matter.

Mario 126 for the revolution has all the numbers to be a flop sales wise and tech wise.
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? What the... why not for revolution? Nintendo will need a killer app and well, it's already so late; it might as well as be on Revolution. Otherwise, a GC release is a bit of a waste
 
If Mario 128 wouldn't be a better game on the Revolution, then what's the point of Nintendo even making new hardware?

Unless Mario 128 is like 95% complete on the GameCube as of right now, I say forget it.

Move the project to the Revolution.
 
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