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Mario Kart 8 |OT3| You fuck THIS GAME! Let the salt flow
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Jesus Christ, I'm FREE!!!
The Last 500 points or so was probably the most UNFUN I've ever had with a videogame. No wait, not probably, it definitely was, and it was due to 2 things: Online Problems (mainly no hit registration when you play worldwide, especially with people from Japan) + the New Item Balancing (which SUCKS ASS beyond belief!!!)
New Item Balancing:
It's unbelievable how much you get hit in this game. There are soo many things you just can't block and with 12 people spamming everything they have, it's just ridiculous: Boomerang = can't block. Fireflower = can't block. Horn = can't block.
Add to this the fact that you now get absolutely useless coins out of item boxes, EVEN if you already have 10, basically inviting everyone to fuck you up, it's almost unbearable.
But the worst Item out of them all is new and "improved", goddamn Green Shell... I've got hit by "random" Green Shells sooo many times, it may left me traumatized. The sound of "randomly" traveling Green Shells is the worst thing in the game, because that's the point: Green Shells are not RANDOM!!
They are programmed to "seek & destroy" players. They have a form of auto aim and if they don't hit, they just continue traveling around looking for their next victim. It is absolutely RIDICULOUS! Even if you have a defensive item attached to your back (Red/Green Shell or Banana), they hit you from the side, or worse, from the front. They literally find a way to hit you no matter what you do.
Whoever complained about a blue shell in Mario Kart will forever hate the new Green Shells, because they are 10x worse than a Blue Shell (and I'm not even kidding).
Call me crazy, but I also think the Fire Flower projectiles have some "slight" auto-aiming to them.
There is NOTHING truly random in this game. It is a huge fuck you to every competitive player.
So all in all: the New Item Balancing just feels very bad. The feeling of getting hit by random objects repetitively that are not random, no matter how good you drive, invokes the feeling of unfairness and makes you just not want to play the game anymore, because it's ass much fun as rolling the dice. So when the developers said "we improved the balance", they didn't mean, "we address one of the complains about previous Mario Karts: luck", but rather "we made it even MORE random than any Mario Kart before".
Online Problems:
In the first month or so, this game was severely plagued by overloaded servers, which caused tremedous lag and reduced the game speed significantly (it felt like you were constantly driving in water) and made your item wheel spin 5x longer and shit. FUNNILY enough, and I'm sure people in the GAF races have noticed this, too, it also caused super boosts to last longer. I remember games on Gaf where you could win multiple times in a row with just a koopa + pripeframe, so handling + boost was > speed.
Now, fortunately the servers are faster now (2 month after the game was launched), but instead of being super slow, they actually SPEED UP occasionally, which again, is absolutely ridiculous, as it feels like driving at 250cc. I know, some F-Zero fans will be happy to hear this, BUT the hit detection is fucked up at the same time. So you throw shit at somebody, but the hits doesn't register and the player just drives away as if he was never hit by anything. Especially if you play people from overseas, for example Europe <-> Japan), it is better to keep you item and ue it defensively.
SO WHAT ARE THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE GAME??????
The New Cart Handling:
Seriously, the new cart handling just feels great. Drifting is rewarding, but a bit riskier than before, and just more fun than in previous games. Every Kart/Tire combination has a very distinct feel to it (although UNFORTUNATLEY light characters are almost useless)
The Graphics:
The game is just super beautiful. The lack of anti aliazing sucks, but this was never a problem to me, because I prefer playing on the Gamepad (downsampling for the win!).
The Sound:
Freaking amazing.
VERDICT: The New Item Balancing has somehow ruined the game for me (as a competitive player). I've played Mario Kart 7 waaay longer than 8 and never was I seriously disgusted by its Item Balancing. In Mario Kart 7 I never felt the same helplessness. Getting hit never felt so bad in MK7 like it does it MK8 (I probably got hit by more Green Shells than Red Shells, seriously...)
MK7 has some game-mechanic-problems (certain karts allowed you to drift offroad and shit among some other things), but it just felt more balanced and not as downright vicious as MK8. However, the pure Kart-Racing (the driving and handling of the karts) is much more fun in MK8.
The Last 500 points or so was probably the most UNFUN I've ever had with a videogame. No wait, not probably, it definitely was, and it was due to 2 things: Online Problems (mainly no hit registration when you play worldwide, especially with people from Japan) + the New Item Balancing (which SUCKS ASS beyond belief!!!)
New Item Balancing:
It's unbelievable how much you get hit in this game. There are soo many things you just can't block and with 12 people spamming everything they have, it's just ridiculous: Boomerang = can't block. Fireflower = can't block. Horn = can't block.
Add to this the fact that you now get absolutely useless coins out of item boxes, EVEN if you already have 10, basically inviting everyone to fuck you up, it's almost unbearable.
But the worst Item out of them all is new and "improved", goddamn Green Shell... I've got hit by "random" Green Shells sooo many times, it may left me traumatized. The sound of "randomly" traveling Green Shells is the worst thing in the game, because that's the point: Green Shells are not RANDOM!!
They are programmed to "seek & destroy" players. They have a form of auto aim and if they don't hit, they just continue traveling around looking for their next victim. It is absolutely RIDICULOUS! Even if you have a defensive item attached to your back (Red/Green Shell or Banana), they hit you from the side, or worse, from the front. They literally find a way to hit you no matter what you do.
Whoever complained about a blue shell in Mario Kart will forever hate the new Green Shells, because they are 10x worse than a Blue Shell (and I'm not even kidding).
Call me crazy, but I also think the Fire Flower projectiles have some "slight" auto-aiming to them.
There is NOTHING truly random in this game. It is a huge fuck you to every competitive player.
So all in all: the New Item Balancing just feels very bad. The feeling of getting hit by random objects repetitively that are not random, no matter how good you drive, invokes the feeling of unfairness and makes you just not want to play the game anymore, because it's ass much fun as rolling the dice. So when the developers said "we improved the balance", they didn't mean, "we address one of the complains about previous Mario Karts: luck", but rather "we made it even MORE random than any Mario Kart before".
Online Problems:
In the first month or so, this game was severely plagued by overloaded servers, which caused tremedous lag and reduced the game speed significantly (it felt like you were constantly driving in water) and made your item wheel spin 5x longer and shit. FUNNILY enough, and I'm sure people in the GAF races have noticed this, too, it also caused super boosts to last longer. I remember games on Gaf where you could win multiple times in a row with just a koopa + pripeframe, so handling + boost was > speed.
Now, fortunately the servers are faster now (2 month after the game was launched), but instead of being super slow, they actually SPEED UP occasionally, which again, is absolutely ridiculous, as it feels like driving at 250cc. I know, some F-Zero fans will be happy to hear this, BUT the hit detection is fucked up at the same time. So you throw shit at somebody, but the hits doesn't register and the player just drives away as if he was never hit by anything. Especially if you play people from overseas, for example Europe <-> Japan), it is better to keep you item and ue it defensively.
SO WHAT ARE THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE GAME??????
The New Cart Handling:
Seriously, the new cart handling just feels great. Drifting is rewarding, but a bit riskier than before, and just more fun than in previous games. Every Kart/Tire combination has a very distinct feel to it (although UNFORTUNATLEY light characters are almost useless)
The Graphics:
The game is just super beautiful. The lack of anti aliazing sucks, but this was never a problem to me, because I prefer playing on the Gamepad (downsampling for the win!).
The Sound:
Freaking amazing.
VERDICT: The New Item Balancing has somehow ruined the game for me (as a competitive player). I've played Mario Kart 7 waaay longer than 8 and never was I seriously disgusted by its Item Balancing. In Mario Kart 7 I never felt the same helplessness. Getting hit never felt so bad in MK7 like it does it MK8 (I probably got hit by more Green Shells than Red Shells, seriously...)
MK7 has some game-mechanic-problems (certain karts allowed you to drift offroad and shit among some other things), but it just felt more balanced and not as downright vicious as MK8. However, the pure Kart-Racing (the driving and handling of the karts) is much more fun in MK8.
^ I think I've run into you before.
Anyway. Play more Frantic friend tourneys here at GAF from now on, and just enjoy the wreckage
Yeah, tournaments are a good idea. Frantic with a crazy, but fun (not neccessrily "winning") Character/Kart combination would be something I would enjoy. But worldwide races? Never again!
http://youtu.be/2epky0_Olww
Just wanted to give Roo a friendly reminder that the Year of Luigi is over and that it is now the Month of Peach. Enjoy this replay from last night race.
Just wanted to give Roo a friendly reminder that the Year of Luigi is over and that it is now the Month of Peach. Enjoy this replay from last night race.
More death stare
Best part is when you hit Roo and he fell off the stage. Keep releasing content like this and I may subscribe to your service.
So you were the one that hit me twice in both tambourines? FUCK YOU!
Best part is when you fell down the tambourines lol. I had the widest grin ever when that happened. Such an amazing race still have that replay on my fav
protomouse
Member
Anyone around for some racing? I'll be hanging out in WW for now.
DaSorcerer7
Member
I'm up for some frantic
protomouse
Member
Anyone else even playing? Still room in WW if not.
protomouse
Member
lol Merrick from above
protomouse
Member
GGs guys, I'm out.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
no-one playing?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Surely we can gang up on him?
E3 murdered this game :'(
E3 murdered this game :'(
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
I'm beating scrubs online, this isn't fun.
I'm just gonna play in pub rooms and maybe other tournaments (like GameXplain's tournament every Saturday) until the patch comes out. Hopefully the patch will revitalize interest for GAFfers (hopefully.......)
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I'm definitely looking forward to a fixed item system. There something seriously wrong if you get one mushroom in last place.
Saint Gregory
Member
I'll be back tomorrow, I've been working completely insane hours at work since last weekend. Finally some rest and days off starting... now!!!
Edit: never mind, in my tiredness I misread this as "coming tomorrow" :/
Whoa, what's this? Did I miss some news???
Edit: never mind, in my tiredness I misread this as "coming tomorrow" :/
castaction
Member
well i going to play some game tonight on frantic lobby
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
Jeez playing in WW and can't seem to get anything but mushrooms...
New Edit: Finally got in the 4300 range and it's extremely chaotic. Every five seconds something is hitting you.
New Edit: Finally got in the 4300 range and it's extremely chaotic. Every five seconds something is hitting you.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
GG Prob even though your having mercy on me lol.
Emperor Bohe
Member
Just joined the frantic room, let the salt flow
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
Lighting and then three red shell that connected....it certainly is flowing.
Emperor Bohe
Member
Rooms slowly filling up
Emperor Bohe
Member
So salty
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I feel bad for whoever I hit right before the finish line.
Well fuck you, too.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
Welcome to frantic XD.
Emperor Bohe
Member
Kskskzoxknxueiji8838$;$8-38+#(#!*kkdkxkddkidid
so salty
so salty
Who are you in this lobby?
You said it yourself, bitch. We're the Guardians of the Galaxy.
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